I'm just wondering whats your thought on chaining a dog?

[Indigo Bully Connection]

Okay, I tried my best to stay out. I am an absolutely non-confrontational person, but PT is taking a hit, along with some people that are very special to me and I just can't take it anymore.

FIRST: Out of respect for the original poster and question, I will answer it. I HATE CHAINING DOGS BY THE COLLAR. Do you want to know why? Go see this thread: http://http://petoftheday.com/talk/s...ghlight=NIKATA I understand there are some dogs who pose a threat, or for other reasons need to be restrained. Use a harness or proper dog runs, and don't leave them out to annoy or frighten those around them. I grew up with my family breeding Irish Setters who could jump six foot fences from a standing position. They had runs.

SECOND: PT is a wonderful 'board' (I think that's the proper term) with seriously caring, loving, and accepting PET people. You want proof? Go see the same thread (among many others). They have been very helpful and knowledgeable towards my issues, and those of others; I hope they continue to do so.

There's my two cents. Now (and I have said this before), I'm going back to the kitty threads where I belong. It's much happier there.

Pinot, this is not intended to be sarcastic nor nasty by annny means. I just felt the need to step in on this note in a nice way. A harness and dog runs are not suited for these types of dogs. My dogs are confined durring the day while I'm away from home, some are outside and some are inside. I have a kennel set up, as well as a chain/cable set up. Most Game Bred dogs will eat through a kennel just to get to another dog that catches it's eye... also, even for my not game bred dogs... I tried tethering them with harnesses, and they ate through both the nylon and leather. When we chose to own these kinds of dogs we need to step up the responsibility in order to preserve our rights as animal owners. I cannot afford the vet bills if my APBT got off the chain, ate the kennel. Even when inside my home my APBT girl has to be seperated by a closed door from all other animals. We have to rotate to keep the vet costs as low as possible! haha To do this right your animals, especially dogs who has been bred specifically for sports/jobs needs the exercise of it's mind just as much as it's body...if this is not done they do become distructive to themselves personally as well as to anything withing paws reach. Very similar to GSD dogs who have been bred, trained, worked for law inforcement, then they become retired... it is very difficult, if not impossible to make them house dogs. I'm sure it's the same way for a greyhound.

EDIT: it has been bred and ingrained into these dogs for hundreds of years to need a purpose in life, and that is where we as a bully community come into so many troubles because they are not dogs for everyone by any means. It takes a certain kind of owner to do this breed any kind of justice... or stay out of the media. The "Pit Bull" (and I hate that term, because it's such a loose generalization) has become more of a fashion statement for people and when prospective owners browse the classified adds they do not realise it is a life style, not just a dog.

[Indigo Bully Connection]

I tried to look at your link, but this blasted computer loses internet connection when I do. Weird, anyway. I'm sure it's a prime example that there is a right way and a wrong way to tether a dog, there are certain kinds of collars that should be used to safely contain your dog, as well as there should be a clear path so the dog cannot get caught up on it's tether or anything around him/her.

[MonicanHonda]

Pinot, this is not intended to be sarcastic nor nasty by annny means. I just felt the need to step in on this note in a nice way. A harness and dog runs are not suited for these types of dogs. My dogs are confined durring the day while I'm away from home, some are outside and some are inside. I have a kennel set up, as well as a chain/cable set up. Most Game Bred dogs will eat through a kennel just to get to another dog that catches it's eye... also, even for my not game bred dogs... I tried tethering them with harnesses, and they ate through both the nylon and leather. When we chose to own these kinds of dogs we need to step up the responsibility in order to preserve our rights as animal owners. I cannot afford the vet bills if my APBT got off the chain, ate the kennel. Even when inside my home my APBT girl has to be seperated by a closed door from all other animals. We have to rotate to keep the vet costs as low as possible! haha To do this right your animals, especially dogs who has been bred specifically for sports/jobs needs the exercise of it's mind just as much as it's body...if this is not done they do become distructive to themselves personally as well as to anything withing paws reach. Very similar to GSD dogs who have been bred, trained, worked for law inforcement, then they become retired... it is very difficult, if not impossible to make them house dogs. I'm sure it's the same way for a greyhound.

EDIT: it has been bred and ingrained into these dogs for hundreds of years to need a purpose in life, and that is where we as a bully community come into so many troubles because they are not dogs for everyone by any means. It takes a certain kind of owner to do this breed any kind of justice... or stay out of the media. The "Pit Bull" (and I hate that term, because it's such a loose generalization) has become more of a fashion statement for people and when prospective owners browse the classified adds they do not realise it is a life style, not just a dog.

I told myself I wasn't going to post anything in this thread anymore if I couldn't be nice, but...

Thank you so much for being so informative. You make the idea of chaining a "pit bull" seem very reasonable to me. I'm sure you take extra care to make sure they are safe when they are.

EDIT:

Oh, and I believe you too because just watching rescue shows on the tv and when they get dog aggressive "pit bulls" on there, they really mess themselves up with cages and such. They didn't really show the damage being done to this one dog, but when he was trying to get to the other "pit bull" the end result was blood EVERYWHERE.

Basically Pinot's thread was about a family who could no longer walk their dog (very nice family it sounds like) and their dog was on a long lead outside, ran after something and snapped it's neck. The dog had neck damage. So, if you are taking precautions as to something like this happening and being responsible about it... I suppose I could see this being better than a kennel or cage where they could hurt themselves and probably another dog once they got out of it.

[Indigo Bully Connection]

I told myself I wasn't going to post anything in this thread anymore if I couldn't be nice, but...

Thank you so much for being so informative. You make the idea of chaining a "pit bull" seem very reasonable to me. I'm sure you take extra care to make sure they are safe when they are.

EDIT:

Oh, and I believe you too because just watching rescue shows on the tv and when they get dog aggressive "pit bulls" on there, they really mess themselves up with cages and such. They didn't really show the damage being done to this one dog, but when he was trying to get to the other "pit bull" the end result was blood EVERYWHERE.

Basically Pinot's thread was about a family who could no longer walk their dog (very nice family it sounds like) and their dog was on a long lead outside, ran after something and snapped it's neck. The dog had neck damage. So, if you are taking precautions as to something like this happening and being responsible about it... I suppose I could see this being better than a kennel or cage where they could hurt themselves and probably another dog once they got out of it.

No problemo, I welcome any questions. I have had to mend many bloody noses because of fence fights with the neighbors dog with Neela lol. Breaking up a "scuffle" with these dogs is much more of chore than it is with any other breed I've worked with. After the second go round between my older girls, I broke down and got the break sticks. I, like many other people truely believed "if you raise them right you won't have any problems".... boooy was I WRONG! lol

[amberlynn]

i dont like chains...that is my personal opinion but i don put my dogs on their but only in the summer time and only for a couple of hours (dogs get cabin fever too)....but i see that they get alot of love....o and ummm if i may ask were did u get those chains cuz i need to get some like that for my pits...my female she breaks chains like crazy.......and i think it would b cute to see a lil chihuahua on one...lol jk jk

[amberlynn]

No problemo, I welcome any questions. I have had to mend many bloody noses because of fence fights with the neighbors dog with Neela lol. Breaking up a "scuffle" with these dogs is much more of chore than it is with any other breed I've worked with. After the second go round between my older girls, I broke down and got the break sticks. I, like many other people truely believed "if you raise them right you won't have any problems".... boooy was I WRONG! lol

ya i kno wut ya mean....my female and male are the fighting kings they do not stop and that is y we have the fight stick.....(police baton) wen they see that they stop rite then and there.....

[luvofallhorses]

Do you mean a break stick? I think that's what it's properly called.
http://www.pbrc.net/shop/bsticks.html

For anyone that doesn't know what a breakstick is - it is only to be used on bulldogs, not any other breed when they get in a fight with another dog and it doesn't mean you fight your dogs it seperates them faster without you getting hurt and every responsible APBT 'bulldog' owner should have one.

Breaksticks -

http://www.pbrc.net/breaksticks.html

[amberlynn]

well ummmm that is wut we personally call it and they are pits not bulldogs...well mine at least

[luvofallhorses]

Same thing. APBTs are infact bulldog breeds. Hence 'bully' breeds still the same thing.

[amberlynn]

ya i kno wut ya ment....it jus eerks me wen people say bulldog cuz bulldogs look more like the bullies.....dozer is british staffordshire....with a lil american to...that is y he has the bulldog look....but to me bulldogs are small and husky....

[luvofallhorses]

That is not what I meant at ALL about bulldog. I did not mean American Bullies. It's used as a term if you know what I mean. Of course APBTs are lean and medium like the OP's dog.

[amberlynn]

im sry....but anyway back to the chain thing...another reason y i dont like chains is because people can come into ur yard and having nice dogs like mine u dont kno that they come in the yard.....i almost lost my female pit because some punk kids poisend her.....i almost lost my baby...ever since then i dont let my dogs out unless im out there and i dont chain them up no more........

[Indigo Bully Connection]

It's a pet peeve of mine, but I don't like the terms Pits, or Pit Bulls. They are not breed specific. They lump a large amount of dogs together and add to the confusion to the general public. Bulldog is the original name of the American Pit Bull Terrier... They added the Terrier dogs to the Bulldog for "gameness" they introduced Terriers to the Bulldogs to have smaller, tenacious, quicker dog for fighting...They added the word "pit" when it became an underground sport held in a "pit" also known as the "box".

[*LabLoverKEB*]

Good post, Indigo. Very true!


A lot of people think that American Staffordshire Terriers, Staffordshire Bull Terriers, and Bull Terriers are all 'pit bulls'. This is not the case! American Staffordshire's, Staffordshire Bull Terriers, and the APBT are all closely related breeds, but they are in no means the same breeds.
The APBT is shorter, and leaner.
The AST and the APBT look very similar.
and Staffordshire Bull Terriers are much shorter, wider, and have a totally different face then the others.
The Bull Terrier is best known for it's egg-shaped head. Not very common, but the color mostly seen is mostly white or white w/ some brown patches.
and the American Bulldog, (seen in the movie Homeward Bound, 'Chance') is a taller, and leaner breed. I like the type of American Bulldog seen in the movie, I feel like people have bred them to be bigger, and heavier....

[amberlynn]

yes i kno that aswell...i did some research yesterday cuz i was more interested in the breed (and im having health issues with my older male) but it has jus been a habit for me to call them "pits"....im sry if i offended you in anway.........