Man in Black

[Edwina's Secretary]

Blue,


I hope Limbaugh and Obama can read better than you do.

This is a quote from Liz

one of the best accounts of Rush Limppaw's speech after the event.

Not me.

Find me where I referred to Limbaugh by anything other than his name!

[Medusa]

p.s.....where in this thread did anyone use the word "idiot" to describe him???

Read post #3.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Read post #3.

I was wrong. Limbaugh was called an idiot in this thread.

Thank you for correcting me Medusa.

[blue]

Blue,


I hope Limbaugh and Obama can read better than you do.

This is a quote from Liz

Not me.

Find me where I referred to Limbaugh by anything other than his name!

Whoppitydo if you didnt. Sorry I misquoted you but again whooppitydo, I doubt your views are any different.

You started this thread, did you either read or hear the entire speech? Do you think Obama will take Rush up on his challenge?

You are only trolling to get conservatives worked up, again.

[Puckstop31]

And while we attack each other with meaningless, juvenile banter...


President Obama and his minons in the Legislature continue to practice the economics of John Maynard Keynes. The utter failure history has shown it to be...

Give the money back to the people who EARNED it. Let business keep the money they EARN.

An excerpt from Madison's Federalist Paper #63... (Can't wait to hear what the mindless cheerleaders have to say here....)

...To a people as little blinded by prejudice or corrupted by flattery as those whom I address, I shall not scruple to add, that such an institution may be sometimes necessary as a defense to the people against their own temporary errors and delusions. As the cool and deliberate sense of the community ought, in all governments, and actually will, in all free governments, ultimately prevail over the views of its rulers; so there are particular moments in public affairs when the people, stimulated by some irregular passion, or some illicit advantage, or misled by the artful misrepresentations of interested men, may call for measures which they themselves will afterwards be the most ready to lament and condemn. In these critical moments, how salutary will be the interference of some temperate and respectable body of citizens, in order to check the misguided career, and to suspend the blow meditated by the people against themselves, until reason, justice, and truth can regain their authority over the public mind? What bitter anguish would not the people of Athens have often escaped if their government had contained so provident a safeguard against the tyranny of their own passions? Popular liberty might then have escaped the indelible reproach of decreeing to the same citizens the hemlock on one day and statues on the next.

LIBERTY. Think about what it means to you. Forget what I say.

LIBERTY. What does that mean to you?

[blue]

Its obvious Obama is a better reader then I am, he cant give a speech without a telepromter.

[caseysmom]

Juvenile banter...Puck...we can both agree on that one!

[Puckstop31]

Juvenile banter...Puck...we can both agree on that one!

Well, its a starting point I reckon. Thank you.


This is a serious time. We need serious debate. The time of the passionate, with little contextual ability ,cheerleader, is past.


All IMHO of course. The last thing I want is my POV forced upon anybody. I simply want individual liberty. Sad the other side wants to control me.....

[caseysmom]

I really get tired of the insulting. I don't really like to debate with some people on here that resort to insults. Just the other night I was called out on a spelling error by someone with pretty bad spelling, I can't debate with that, the claws come out.

I can say that our views often differ puck but you are usually respectful and we can agree to disagree most times. I do admire you and sparks and no doubt if we ever met I would consider both of you great friends.

One thing I think is really pulling this country apart is the bi-partian thinking. I remember growing up and the grownups could debate politics and respect each other, it all seems so personal now. I don't always agree with the dems, I am actually pretty close to the middle but I lean to the left on social issues, gay rights, etcs.

I do agree with the republicans on the less government issues, however they seem to have left that by the wayside as of late.

[Puckstop31]

I really get tired of the insulting. I don't really like to debate with some people on here that resort to insults. Just the other night I was called out on a spelling error by someone with pretty bad spelling, I can't debate with that, the claws come out.

Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things. Eh?

I can say that our views often differ puck but you are usually respectful and we can agree to disagree most times. I do admire you and sparks and no doubt if we ever met I would consider both of you great friends.

Ditto. I mean it.

One thing I think is really pulling this country apart is the bi-partian thinking. I remember growing up and the grownups could debate politics and respect each other, it all seems so personal now. I don't always agree with the dems, I am actually pretty close to the middle but I lean to the left on social issues, gay rights, etcs.

I do agree with the republicans on the less government issues, however they seem to have left that by the wayside as of late.

AMEN to the bold. The next time I hear some mindless hack say " the donkeycrats THIS.. the republiphnats THAT", I am going to scream. We really are better than that. We are better than the lemmings in the press want us to believe. We ARE better than our government thinks we are.

You would be shocked to see my views on gay rights and some social issues...

LIBERTY.

We are all human. We should be able to decide for ourselves where we live, how we live, who we live with, how we spend OUR money, who educates OUR kids....

[Grace]

The man is morbidly obese, a racist and misogynist. He is prone to ridiculing the physical characteristics of those he dislikes on a regular basis.

Other than that - he's a real sweetie

[blue]

The man is morbidly obese,

Ill give you obese, but why is that an issue here?

a racist, and misogynist. He is prone to ridiculing the physical characteristics of those he dislikes on a regular basis.

Care to back this up?

[Grace]

Care to back this up?

On his TV show, early in the Clinton administration, Limbaugh put up a picture of Socks, the White House cat, and asked, "Did you know there's a White House dog?" Then he put up a picture of Chelsea Clinton, who was 13 years old at the time and as far as I know had never done any harm to anyone.

When viewers objected, he claimed, in typical Limbaugh fashion, that the gag was an accident and that without his permission some technician had put up the picture of Chelsea - if you believe that let me sell you this bridge I own in Brooklyn!

Of course, he is not alone with his comments about Chelsea. In 1998, at a Republican Senate fund raiser John McCain said -

"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno."

Misogyny is contempt of women or girls. He has said things throughout the years that qualify for that description. Remember feminazi?

As for the morbidly obese - just the observation of a nurse.

[Puckstop31]

The man is morbidly obese,

So what? It might be his glands. LOL

This should only matter once we are under governments thumb with our healthcare.

a racist and misogynist.

Misogynist, perhaps. Racist? NO. Understanding him in the context of his whole show might help. Soundbites and quotes out of context contribute this this idea.

He is prone to ridiculing the physical characteristics of those he dislikes on a regular basis.

So Micheal Moore isn't really fat? Helen Thomas is not "oh my GOD" ugly?

I reckon the style over substance effect that our President uses to get his way wins here, eh?

A spade is a spade. When did the truth become taboo to say?

I think I know... Do you?

[blue]

On his TV show, early in the Clinton administration, Limbaugh put up a picture of Socks, the White House cat, and asked, "Did you know there's a White House dog?" Then he put up a picture of Chelsea Clinton, who was 13 years old at the time and as far as I know had never done any harm to anyone.

When viewers objected, he claimed, in typical Limbaugh fashion, that the gag was an accident and that without his permission some technician had put up the picture of Chelsea - if you believe that let me sell you this bridge I own in Brooklyn!

Of course, he is not alone with his comments about Chelsea. In 1998, at a Republican Senate fund raiser John McCain said -


Misogyny is contempt of women or girls. He has said things throughout the years that qualify for that description. Remember feminazi?

As for the morbidly obese - just the observation of a nurse.

Ill give you the Chelsea gaff, I would have used a horse not a dog if I was his producer. She did grow into quite an attractive woman though.

I would like to see the links you pulled Limbaugh and McCain's quotes from.

Now for you accusing him being a racist....waiting.