Firearms. Yea or Nay?

[shais_mom]

DAMN YOU!
Always with the logical answer.

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And we haven't had our yearly story about the hunter who gets shot by the dog???? Yet?!

awww Richard I know you me!

actually last year around this time we had a 12 year old boy hunting with his father and he was killed not by being shot by his father/ another person. But b/c where he had the gun that he'd used for years position when he fired the kickback hit him square in the heart, and caused his heart to malfunction and by the time he was brought to the ER a bloodclot had already formed and he died. So in that case it was a GUN that killed someone. Not the bullet.

[Cinder & Smoke]

Or, you can pull out a gun and shoot the jerk.
I think that shooting the moron saved me some tax dollars.
I like it when the public gets involved with the fiscal matters of government.

I'm all for savin a buck or two ... FIRE away!

[sparks19]

I'll say
"well done". I'd have done the same thing if I were in her position.

Agreed. Good for her. This just goes to show that you cannot put your own safety in the hands of anyone but yourself. You can't count on the police to come and save you. but some people want to take away the ability for women like this to protect themselves.

[shais_mom]

I'm not sure I'm qualified to comment since I don't own a gun, but I totally agree with Sparks. I have thought about getting a gun - even if it is a simple pistol look-alike bb gun. As a single woman living alone sometimes I get scared. Yes I have a big dog, but I'm not entirely sure WHAT she'd do if I was threatened. I **think** she would protect me. She sure has bared her teeth at people she doesn't like but she's never taken that to the next measure. And unless my life is being threatened I don't want her to. Even if my life was threatened I'm sure there'd be repercussions of having a dog responsible for biting someone.
But I don't like the idea of taking away my RIGHT to bear arms either.

[RICHARD]

I'm not sure I'm qualified to comment since I don't own a gun, but I totally agree with Sparks. I have thought about getting a gun - even if it is a simple pistol look-alike bb gun.

You're gonna put you eye out with it!!

I have a good .22 cal pellet gun, it's a one shot pump, should I ever need to use it, I have one shot, then I'll be forced to go MMA afterwards.
It's good practice should you ever want to own a real gun.

[shais_mom]

Just b/c I disagree with you Sara doesn't mean I'm wrong.
I think you are so passionate about your beliefs you forget that. But I never said you were wrong about anything. Other's may have but I didn't. If he shot himself its his parents fault for giving him the gun, if they aren't smart enough to not give him a gun, then they belong in jail.
And quite frankly - I've no clue what you are talking about b/c I didn't read the rest of this thread nor do I intend too...
you have freedom of speech - others request their right to bear arms. Do you think words don't cause people to kill themselves over the hurt of them? Ohhhh yea - that's right - its the GUN'S fault when someone kills themself.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Absolutely, ES, where's the righteous indignation about guns?

After all, a life is a life, right?

You are so cute when you put words in my mouth LH! Of course, that is easier than say...producing these statistics you talk about!

[Lady's Human]

No, not putting words in your mouth, ES, I'm not going to take over your job.

You seem to do quite well putting words in other people's mouths, PT needs only one expert in that regard.

Once again, the statistics about firearms used in self defense are readily available.

Google, anyone? Again, I see no need to search fr a topic for someone when google will bring up plenty of intormation with a few keystrokes

Of course, if you actually did the search, you'd be one less thing to carp about, so heaven forbid you actually took it upon ourself to search.

[Edwina's Secretary]

No, not putting words in your mouth, ES, I'm not going to take over your job.

You seem to do quite well putting words in other people's mouths, PT needs only one expert in that regard.

Once again, the statistics about firearms used in self defense are readily available.

Google, anyone? Again, I see no need to search fr a topic for someone when google will bring up plenty of intormation with a few keystrokes

Of course, if you actually did the search, you'd be one less thing to carp about, so heaven forbid you actually took it upon ourself to search.

50 million innocent people were killed today with firearms. Heck, now I understand how you do it!

(You are flailing and flinging now LH...)

[Lady's Human]

ES, again.

google "lott study" or "Lott report" or "Lott firearms study"

It's not that tough.

Or maybe it is?

They're not invisible statistics. It's willful ignorance on your part.

[RICHARD]

awww Richard I know you me!

LOL, I was trying to keep you safe. And now the secret is out!

Ever suspect that the Anti Gun lobbyists would bust a cap in yo arese to get the point across?

[shais_mom]

LOL, I was trying to keep you safe. And now the secret is out!

Ever suspect that the Anti Gun lobbyists would bust a cap in yo arese to get the point across?

kind of like the anti-abortionists that believe abortion in murder but yet blow up abortion clinics to prove their point?
**hugs**

[Edwina's Secretary]

ES, again.

google "lott study" or "Lott report" or "Lott firearms study"

It's not that tough.

Or maybe it is?

They're not invisible statistics. It's willful ignorance on your part.

Tell me. What did you think of the statistics on the Academy of Pediatrics website? You know...the ones about how dangerous is it to have guns in the house if you have children? How teaching gun safety to children does nothing to increase the safety of children around guns?

Or are you just willfully ignorant of what the Academy studies say?

By the way...the Lott study, in addition to being over 10 years old -- is about as objective as the Slate Report.

Surely you can do better than that.

[Puckstop31]

There are lies, damn lies and then there are statistics.

All the hot air in the world cannot change one thing. Firearm ownership is a God given, Constitutionally affirmed individual right. Nothing, short of a repeal of the 2nd Amendment, can change that. That happens... States start seceding. No doubt.

Irrational, emotional people will always be against this individual right. But in the end... I worry little about it. Because either way, they are NOT getting my guns. There are those of you who will take that to mean that I am some sort of crazy gun nut... That's fine. It is not true, but it is fine. Simply put, my family's safety from tyranny, no matter what form it takes, is the most important Earthly thing to me. No mere government can or shall take that from me.

Make me a criminal for owning an inanimate object? That means it is time to vote from the rooftops. Why? Because I'd rather die free than live a slave.

[catland]

ok - first of all, I haven't read the thread - I just took the easy way out and went to the last chapter.

50M a day? at that rate, we'll all be wiped out in 4 months!

But seriously folks,

Us, (The US of A) have never suffered from a military coup. Why? because the citizens are allowed to bear arms.

Once that right is taken away, military coups are inevitable.

so I'll keep my guns, thank you very much.