A Fitting Tribute ?

[Grace]

U.S. President Ulysses S. Grant is on the $50 - know your American History, or is he just a familiar name to you, without knowing of his administration?

I believe she said Nixon tongue-in-cheek

[Lady's Human]

They.....define "they".

We are citizens of a representative republic.

There are 537 people in Washington D.C. who we elect to represent us, either through a direct vote or the electoral college.

The President, constitutionally, has no more power than Congress or the SCOTUS. In reality, the Presidency is a rather weak executive office.

Don't like what's going on? Your vote against your incumbent congressional representatives will have far more effect than any vote for the oval office. Nothing will change while the incumbency rate in Congress remains in the 90% range.

[Grace]

My vote for the next President will be based on one issue - The Supreme Court.

[Lady's Human]

Just a little data:

http://www.opensecrets.org/bigpictur...php?cycle=2006

That's a better chance of getting a pension than most workers have.

[Grace]

Thanks for the link - fascinating. I got to the page where it listed amounts of money spent on the Presidential campaigns of all those who ran this year - totally obscene amounts!!

[Lady's Human]

Obscene doesn't begin to describe the money thrown into campaigns, but it's not new. George Washington's campaign expenses were rather amusing, I forget how many gallons of rum and rum punch he had listed.

[smokey the elder]

I think political campaigns have been controversial as long as they've existed. It's just the way the "game" is played. I agree with the idea that politics, like environmentalism, should be locally focused. If enough people do that, then the national (or global) issues will hopefully sort themselves out.

[lizbud]

I believe she said Nixon tongue-in-cheek

I guess the rolly eyes wasn't enough of a tip off for sarcasm.


Sorry if the "my President, right or wrong" doesn't fly for me.


My OP was a question on naming a plant, not a question on patriotism.

[Lady's Human]

Where did patriotism come into this?

Nothing I said had anything to do with "My president, right or wrong"

My comments had to do with respect to the office, not the occupant.

[RICHARD]

I tend to look at the office of POTUS the same way that I look at the driver of a bus.

Don't get on the bus if you aren't traveling in that direction.

You have that right. IF you are on the bus, don't tick him off or cause the other riders on that transport to feel uncomfortable or threatened by uncommon courtesy. Loud radios, eating, drinking and the other stuff.

Then look at the AHs that are in charge of public transportation in other countries-Venezuela, Cuba, Iran, Pakistan....

Take a cab or limo if you don't like the ride.

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Prez campaigns are just like throwing money at a pimp. He promises you a good time and you get scr---d in the end. Literally.

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I have to come back and edit this for a few reasons.

I want you all to go to the nearest place of worship and call the priest, father, mullah, rabbi, whatever, a screwball, insult him until you get tired.

And don't forget to blame them for all the problems their religion has caused. I am not a huge GWB fan. I do hold him responsible for what goes on in the country -the things that he can do something about.

He sent soldiers to Iraq -blood for oil- remember that? Whoever thought that line up was stupid and wrong. I hold most people accountable for where we are now as a nation. We didn't learn about the last gas crisis, or about pollution, air quality or ?????

Write a check to a Greenpeace, WWF, PETA...it's o.k.

No Nukes? Pay higher electricity bills, No windmills? suffer baby.

Out here in El Lay you buy an effing plate for you car that has a whale tail on it. Your extra sixty dollars buys them a nice krill lunch??? You put the plate on a Navigator or Yukon and kill the birds with your exhaust!

The problems that good old GWB is being blamed for are mostly our problems, the ones that we acted stupid when they came up before.

If the San Franciscans that signed the petition were really smart, they'd compost all their turds and do something creative with the compost. Like grow trees and grass....Instead, they try to name a sewage plant after the president-and the plant keeps pumping out the 'treated' water right into their own backyards and ocean.

It makes perfect sense. We'll name a poop processing plant after GWB and smirk about it when it gets done........

Nancy Pelosi deserves to have one of the boxes on the wall in the woman's rest room named after her. BO gets a magazine cover! The stupid Mayor of El Lay deserves a dumpster in SKid Row named after him.

IT's a funny when the 'voters' do it to someone they 'frenzy' about. why not do it for every politician in office? LOL, it's misogynistic? Racist? Age based? Biased by religion?


Tommy Lasorda, the Dodger's cheerleader for centuries has an old saying about team- Twenty five people pulling on a rope at the same time can accomplish wonderful things" I paraphrased it there...


Think about all the idiots who signed that petition and what they could have done CONSTRUCTIVELY with their hate and time.

Boggles the old gourd, eh?

[DJFyrewolf36]

I agree with you Richard. Too many people b!*ch about things without having any clue as to what to do about them, even though there are things they CAN do.

GWB is nothing more than a scapegoat for problems that have been going on for years...as this country spirals further into a sinkhole its a lot easier to blame someone for it than to actually figure out a way towards a solution.

Who we elect to the presidential office isnt going to make things better overnight, although I know a LOT of people who seem to believe it.