Oh Great! ALL the "Donation to Roxyluvsme13" threads have been DELETED!

[shais_mom]

Well I always thought those hundreds for both poms...I think its about 900 for both of them should have went to a 400 dollar enclosure for roxy so she would not have to live on a chain. That was shot down because it wasn't their house, its just excuse after excuse.

I feel like I know luvofallhorses pretty well and I don't think she thinks the people that are being critical are ridiculous, that is just my opinion because her and I seem to agree on so much.

I hope that didn't come off as a rude question b/c I didn't intend for it to sound that way -

[caseysmom]

I don't think it did.

[shais_mom]

I don't think it did.

thank you

[shais_mom]

I'm sorry but in all honesty

And, like Candance said- You are not sure how often Roxy gets allowed inside. It is not only for photoshoots. She sleeps inside almost every night and is allowed inside for most of the day as well. I have talked to Bri over the phone before and on IM many times, so I know she is telling me the truth. Wether you believe it or not is up to you.

and

But at least we have done good, in helping Bri convince her mother - and remember, she worked very hard doing that - that Roxy could be - and now is, happily, an inside doggie!

unless we do as it is suggested here??

Otherwise, I am glad you have been able to train your webcam on her house and determine when Roxy is and is not outside.

[CathyBogart]

This irritates me to no end...I had over $900 in unexpected expenses this month (and I make $1200 a month) and I still managed to get Jasper in to the vet when he needed it....exam, booster vaccinations, license renewal...total=$150. More than it costs to get an animal sterilized. Without scamming people for money.

What's going to happen if one of the unspayed dogs gets a pyometra? That's a $2,000 or more surgery that could be prevented with a $100 spay. Will they just be PTS?

[luvofallhorses]

Staci,

caseysmom is right. I meant the whole thing is ridicolous. Bri asking for money when she bought expensive things that she could have used towards Skye and Lily being spayed among getting shots, check ups, etc. I assume that Skye and Lily aren't spayed, right? Please correct me if I am wrong.
It would be horrible if Skye or Lily snuck out and got pregnant.

Bri,

I know you're young and all but you need to find a way atleast babysit or petsit, walk dogs, etc. to earn money if your mom won't spay or get proper vet care for your animals. even if you get allowance save it up so they can be spayed and get shots and check ups.

you should always have an emergency savings accounts for things if one of your pets got into something toxic, blocked from eating a bone, etc. have your mom get one, it is very important and a lot of vets atleast the vets where I live will do a payment plan. please look into that.

[jackie]

Ok, I just read through the link posted to cat general.

I think it is sad, and nothing more.

I refuse to help people who don't help themselves.

[Ginger's Mom]

I understand that people are upset about the whole situation, in all honesty, I am too. But, the latest deleted thread is no real surprise. Almost everyone on here understood that Bri needed someone to take charge of the medical needs of her animals because neither she nor her mother were able or willing to care for their veterinary or behavioral needs. Rather than train Roxy how to behave, chain her outside. Rather than deal with a peeing cat, have it spayed (although she did need to be spayed anyway). Problems like these have been appearing since October 2005, there is no reason for anyone to really believe that because someone decided to ask Pet Talk to pay for the vet bills that the people in the house will suddenly understand what it takes to care for the animals.

With all due respect to you Phred (and I really do mean that), I am just as glad that those threads disappeared. I think they show the worst of Pet Talk. So much bad advice and so many ignorant comments, is not what Pet Talk should be about. As to people learning about being taken advantage of by reviewing those types of threads, well, people are going to believe what they want to believe, and can come up with all kinds of excuses as to how the present situation is different. There were people who tried to make others see that they were being taken adventage of and those people were told that they could confine their opinions to PMs while new threads were being opened to promote the begging. No I am not sorry those threads went away at all.

[JenBKR]

I haven't been on for a few days, so I must have missed the latest request for donations thread. Did Bri make another thread saying that she got a $90 outfit? Sorry, I did read through this thread, but I missed quite a bit of the story and got confused.

I honestly think that Bri and her mom need some counseling. It just seems like one thing after another (or is it just me? ). One day they don't have the money to pay the electric bill so the electricity gets cut off, the next she is going to see POTC three times in the theater and asking people to buy all kinds of POTC items on ebay for her (with her paying them back) since she's not old enough to have an account. I understand she is young, and that she has a lot to learn, but her it seems as though her mother is not doing her any favors. IMO the pets need to be rehomed.

[Argranade]

What's going to happen if one of the unspayed dogs gets a pyometra? That's a $2,000 or more surgery that could be prevented with a $100 spay. Will they just be PTS?

So for $10 more from that $90 outfit she got, it could have spayed a dog.

[Vela]

Actually the prices for small dogs wasn't even that high at the low cost shelter near her home. She could have had Lilly or Skye spayed and all caught up on shots for that outfit. She could have had Roxy's shots done with the money she spent on seeing POTC more than once. It's all about priorities when living things depend on you.

[Donnaj4962]

I have been trying to stay on top of all of the threads, and I have rarely, if ever posted. I have to say that I have been disgusted with what I have seen/read in Bri's posts, but I had to keep reminding myself that she is only a child. And sadly, it appears that she is a child whose Mother has no financial responsibility.

I know that Bri has made some poor choices in the past, and I have to admit that I was VERY SURPRISED that, after all of the brohaha from the last thread asking for spay money for her Gizzie, she once again asked for money from PTers.

I am single, working for a non-profit, (read: making very little money! ) but I still manage to help others when I can. Something from the very beginning of this has told me that this is a scam, and I have not made any donations. I am sorry for those who have been taken.

I can only hope that Bri's absence in THIS thread is because she is embarrassed and has learned her lesson. Karen, I agree, she and her Mother need some counseling. But I am not starting a thread asking for donations for their therapy sessions! (my attempt at some levity here)

[Cataholic]

Great. Back from my brief vacation, and my dear friend, PCB, brougth this to my attention. I. Told. You. So. Come on. The definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing over and over again, and expect different results. This has been going on for so freaking long.

Catty1- the term is "enabler". For those of us that have been on here for years, and heard the saga, the half-truths, the excuses, etc., it is so totally old. "She is a child", "she is doing the best she can", "nice outfit", "good value"- gag me with a spoon. I mean, totally. Your support of her and her situation is ridiculous, and I think indicates a poor choice in judgment on your part.

This is such a shame, for the poor animals involved. The people? Nah...they are making it just the way they want to- lots of crying, whining and excusing. It isn't situational, it is a choice.

No one in that family seems like they DESERVES pets. Yep. I am totally judging them. I would really have a problem if they lived near me, and, as a community of pet lovers, I don't get how anyone could support this behaviour.


I edited my post because Karen asked me too. I love how two faced those of you who cried to her about it are. (Not you, Karen).

May the way Bri and her family treats their pets weigh on YOUR heart.

Happy now?

[shais_mom]

Staci,

caseysmom is right. I meant the whole thing is ridicolous. Bri asking for money when she bought expensive things that she could have used towards Skye and Lily being spayed among getting shots, check ups, etc. I assume that Skye and Lily aren't spayed, right? Please correct me if I am wrong.
It would be horrible if Skye or Lily snuck out and got pregnant.

thanks Krista - I was just confused.

I agree wholeheartedly with Joh.
Catty - your attempts at helping the less fortunate are definately noble and nothing to sneeze at. BUT I think that your actions are misguided when it comes to some issues here. I think you'd be far better off - finding people in your own area that you can actually SEE attempting at improving their lives - b/c its certainly seems that Bri and her mom may be trying - but it is 2 steps forward 4 steps back.

[kuhio98]

I think a good guideline for all of us who try to help in these situations is that instead of donating to the person -- get the vet information. Mail the check directly to the vet. Specify it is to be used for so-in-so's account. That way, there will be no question as to how the money is spend.