Thinking Of Selling Daisy

**shais_mom** · 03-17-2007, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Roxyluvsme13

Roxy's only half Boxer, but she's still reaaaaalllly hyper. When she first comes inside she goes into the living room and runs around the coffee table.. and when I say her name, she runs cuz she thinks I'm playing

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and please don't think I'm calling boxers dumb or stupid. I know they aren't. I LOVE boxers myself. They just need proper training and supervision.

my sister's dog is part LAB part SPRINGER but we swear when God was passing out the brains he must have been off chasing his tail or something.

But other then not being the brightest bulb in the bunch - he's a GOOD dog and adores my sister's boys.

**sasvermont** · 03-17-2007, 03:01 PM

Tim, I would rehome the dog for sure. If you wanted a security system, and ended up thinking the dog would do the job, then you were probably "barking up the wrong tree". This pupster deserves a loving inside home, with lots of training and exercise. You should have spent your dough on a security alarm system.

We have all made mistakes in life and I can think back to my decision to get a Bengal cat that was close to $1000 dollars, only to find out that it clashed with my one cat. The Bengal was rehomed, to a wonderful home out of state, for free. I owed it to the kitty to find just the perfect home. I think you owe it to Daisy. A real home, not just to recoop your money. You made the wrong decision, not Daisy.

Have a little heart and let this pupster go to an organization that handles Boxers and finds them good homes.

A lesson learned?

SAS

**Twisterdog** · 03-17-2007, 03:03 PM

Tim,

Yes, please, rehome this dog. As soon as possible. You are absolutely right ... you are not the right home for this dog. If you PM me, I will make the arrangements with a boxer rescue for you, and they will come pick the dog up. I only need your permission.

That is the very best thing you could do for this dog ... let her go to people who know, love and understand the breed. They are very devoted to the breed, and probably have a waiting list of pre-approved homes. Please do the right thing, you became responsible for this innocent life when you bought her. Please do what's best for her now, without regard to money.

And PLEASE think very long and hard before getting another dog at this stage in your and your children's lives.

**Lori Jordan** · 03-17-2007, 03:29 PM

This upsets me,My thinking is when you get an animal,You are with that animal until they pass.

Hyper,I have a 100 pound Newf that runs through my home,And have small children all the time,But it is almost like she knows when it comes to children.

You say Daisy is Hyper,Well whether not there is training classes,You look and find one!

You would not think a Newfoundland would need obedience Training,But every Newf Breeder will tell you "THEY NEED TRAING"

I am so mad right now i could spit,This little Girl does not deserve this,And Frankly you do not deserve her,She is Beautiful.Please take others advice,And get her to a rescue.

This way she will be rehomed with someone who will lover her like she should be.

Best Of Luck Daisy!!!

**Sevaede** · 03-17-2007, 05:54 PM

I agree that rehoming Daisy would be in her interest.

Keeping your children and your pup seperated aren't going to do anything about their "fears" (so to speak?), though.

**Cinder & Smoke** · 03-17-2007, 06:10 PM

Time Out, Gang!

Dunno if any one's noticed ... but Mr. Lewis hasn't squeezed a word in here since 8:32 AM - Saturday Morning.

We might have misplaced the Audience.

Maybe take a few DEEP Breaths or a chill pill; and let him slip a word or two in here.

/s/ Phred

**buttercup132** · 03-17-2007, 06:14 PM

He got the dog for protection. She obviously isn't doing her job because she has no family to protect. Everyone on PT's dogs would protect them cause they are all loved and have a family a REAL family. And since he has no time to train her to protect like a actual guard dog she just isn't doing what he bought her for. I'm not saying he is for sure but I agree it obviously sounds like she is going to be bred. Please dont ever get another dog in your life and lets hope your kids grow up and have a better understanding of dogs and dont make the same mistake you have..

**timlewis** · 03-17-2007, 06:41 PM

As far as not being here it was surely not because of what any of u said i have been sleeping. I dont need the money i make plenty of money in the coal mines, im sorry but to me a dog is still just a dog. i will miss Daisy very much if i do decide to sell her to my b i l. As far as her not getting attention you dont really know that she does get attention she isnt in a small cage 24\7. i get her out and take her on walks and play with her and i do love her, and as far as my kids they are way more important than any dog. the only way i would let her go is to my brother in law because i know he will take good care of her as he does his and if he wants to breed her that will be up to him. But honestly i could care less about the $600 i am getting for her that doesnt matter to me, but he will be the only person to get her i can tell u that. The reason i posted this is to see if any of you knew a way i could train her with what limited time i have, and its not a cop out its just the way it is.

**Vela** · 03-17-2007, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by shais_mom

yup
I've NEVER been around a boxer that was quiet and sedate and calm. NEVER. Unless it didn't feel good. My friend was talking about her dog the other nite and she said the only reason her 3 year old boxer/lab mix was so smart was b/c of the boxer. And I cackled I laughed so hard. I said what are you smoking? There are way more guide dogs that are retrievers-labs than boxers. While they are smart and can be trained to do anything I would never say that they were soooo smart. My aunt and uncle used to raise boxers (ok as much as I love them they WERE BYB) and they had indoor manners the whole nine yards. One day they left the dogs (2) out to do as dogs do and run the farm and when my uncle went out to the barn they had KILLED a 600 pound steer and were attempting to bring down the other one.

That was the end of those dogs and the end of boxers at their house.

Well, I realize you weren't calling them all stupid, just giving evidence that they aren't all spazzes LOL. I have two, and am about to have three come tomorrow morning, but my male boxer is one of the smartest dogs I have ever met. He also is very quiet and sedate in stores like Home Depot and Petco. He is pretty quiet around the house to, but if I say let's go play or let's go outside he turns into a different dog, SO happy to play and run and jump. He is 4 and I have trained him from 8 weeks old. Many are "crazy" because poeple don't spend proper time with them, like you said, to socialize and teach them manners. He can open doors in the house, he can carry on a conversation, he actually even tries to say words. I have watched him intentionally reason out how to trick Ginger out of something she has and carry it out to perfection. That's not to say they are all brilliant, but like any breed, there are some that are indeed highly intelligent, and some who are like my beloved Ginger, who are all heart and not a lot of brains LOL. Just wanted to shed some light on the other side of the coin, as I am very close to the breed myself.

I can't say much about Tim and the Daisy situation except I saw it coming, I feel absolutely horrible for that dog, she deserves so much more. Her behavior is entirely his and the family's fault, as a boxer is not a breed that can tolerate that type of lifestyle. I would not say any dog deserves it, but many can tolerate it much better than boxers. They have a desprate need to be with their people, it's even in the breed description. If you truly love this dog, spay her before you sell or give her to your BIL. She is not breed standard to be having puppies and being used as a brood bitch is a crappy life for a dog!

**lizbud** · 03-17-2007, 06:48 PM

Any time someone starts out with "it's not the money", believe me, it IS
the money, period.Bye Tim, hope you have a good life & I do hope Daisy
has a better one.

**coco-bean** · 03-17-2007, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by timlewis

As far as not being here it was surely not because of what any of u said i have been sleeping. I dont need the money i make plenty of money in the coal mines, im sorry but to me a dog is still just a dog. i will miss Daisy very much if i do decide to sell her to my b i l. As far as her not getting attention you dont really know that she does get attention she isnt in a small cage 24\7. i get her out and take her on walks and play with her and i do love her, and as far as my kids they are way more important than any dog. the only way i would let her go is to my brother in law because i know he will take good care of her as he does his and if he wants to breed her that will be up to him. But honestly i could care less about the $600 i am getting for her that doesnt matter to me, but he will be the only person to get her i can tell u that. The reason i posted this is to see if any of you knew a way i could train her with what limited time i have, and its not a cop out its just the way it is.

Tim i am very sorry for ever sticking up for you! I am also deeply sorry for your dog! this is utterly ridiculous, aparently you join PT because you loved her, and all your showing now is discusting to me.
Why on earth would you purposely add to the millions of dogs that are in shelters every year when its SIMPLE to spend a few more bucks on her to fix it. You aparently dont care for her like you say you do otherwise you would never give her to someone who you know prospectively would breed her.
Im sorry if i get yelled at for this or banned or whatever, but you make a sorry excuse for a dog owner, and i deeply feel you make a sorry excuse for a human as well!
Because of people like you gives the rest of us a harder time to do things with our pets or move places with them ect,
if you have so much damn time to walk her, im pretty sure you can find time to train her.
You discust me!
(again i really dont care how much trouble i get in from anyone here when i say these things)

**BC_MoM** · 03-17-2007, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by timlewis

i get her out and take her on walks and play with her and i do love her

Ok, so, you walk her, you play with her and you love her.... Training has to fit in somewhere. What would another 15 minutes out of your day to do some basic training hurt????

**chocolatepuppy** · 03-17-2007, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by timlewis

im sorry but to me a dog is still just a dog
if he wants to breed her that will be up to him.

poor Daisy

**maerlyn** · 03-17-2007, 07:38 PM

What, exactly, will you "miss" about her? You're not giving her attention; you're insistent that neither she nor any other dog will live in your home. Then why even have a dog??? Dogs and cats kept as companions (as opposed to working dogs) should be members of the *family*. That means living with the family, interacting with the family on a regular basis. What pleasure does Daisy get from you? That poor child is a living, sentient being - not a "thing" to buy and then "get rid of" when it no longer serves your purpose! And what for what purpose do you wish to own a dog - just to say you have one? You banish the poor soul to the yard and then wonder why she wants to get out & run away. I agree wholeheartedly with the poster who said that you don't deserve to own a dog - or any other companion animal. Where was your concern for your "two precious children" when you *bought* poor Daisy? I feel so sorry for her, it breaks my heart. Furthermore, the example you are setting for those children is abominable! You are teaching them that dogs are "things", like toys, to be put aside until you deign to bestow some of your largesse upon them. We do not *need* any more people with attitudes like that!! Do the responsibile thing and see that poorl, pathetic Daisy goes to a reputable rescue; they'll have her spayed and see that she goes to a *deserving* home.