Staffs are they all vicious???

[caseysmom]

Us humans all had things in our past...that is not what we are today, we no longer hunt or forage for the most part, you just can't evaluate us based on ancient history. Same with dogs.

The pitties at the shelter I volunteer at are hands down the best behaved dogs in the place.

[borzoimom]

But the same drive in humans is there- to survive- to live- and to get enough... Same traits...

[caseysmom]

But the same drive in humans is there- to survive- to live- and to get enough... Same traits...

No they are not the same traits as our predecessors have, we are all evolving. Nothing ever stays the same.

You are not sucking me into another pit bull bashing thread. I am done here, and when I say that I mean it.

[CathyBogart]

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[Alysser]

I'm so sick of these threads, I can't tell you how angry it makes me feel. I don't have time to read through 7 pages, but I have read page 6 and some comments were really uncalled for.

It's two people in particular, one I know nothing about, except she HAS NO CLUE what she is talking about. I hate when people come onto a thread like this a make false assumptions, accusations, and completely go off topic. The main purpose of this thread was Staffies not pitbulls.

I don't know how much times I have to say it but......

Dogs are effected more by their owners then anything else. If I were too hit Sassy, beat her, and leave her on a chain outside 24/7 she would have fear agression. She doesn't have fear agression because she is not abused. DOGS aren't bored fearful and/or agressive. NOTE: Im using that as an example, I DONT abuse my dog. Just go back and look at her pic threads for proof.

The main point of this is, if you don't know something, and you're going to make false statements, save yourself from looking like a fool, and keep your mouth shut.

[CathyBogart]

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[applesmom]

Breed History
The American Staffordshire Terrier is not a new breed. Although it gained American Kennel Club registration and recognition in 1936, it has been developed since the early 1800's as a result of crosses between the bulldogs of that time and game terriers. One of the early and very famous AKC registered Staffs was Pete the Pup, (real name Lucenay's Peter), dog star of the original Our Gang comedies of the 1930's.

Although the early ancestors of this breed came from England, the development of the American Staffordshire Terrier is the story of a truly American breed. This type of dog was instrumental in the success of farmers and settlers who developed this country. They were used for general farm work, hunting wild pigs, bears, and other large game, guarding the homestead, and general companionship.

A number of the early ancestors were also developed for the "sport" of dog fighting. The extraordinary vitality of this breed is a direct result of breeding for successful fighting dogs. This now illegal activity is, unfortunately, more often cited as the early purpose of the dogs rather than the general farm work.

Although ancestors of the American Staffordshire were fighting dogs, the selective breeding since the 1930's has been away from the fighting heritage. The American Staffordshire Terrier of today is a companion and show dog, rather than a gladiator. Although more rarely used on the farm now, the talents that made him a good all purpose dog are still to be found in the breed.
Staffordshire Club of America Website

[Love That Collie]

Quote Miss Z:from Originally Posted by Love That Collie

FYI, no, I don't believe that I did know conclusively that you are a female.

What on earth does that have to do with anything? I read through both of yours and Kym's posts and really, it's a little childish bringing such matters down to bantering between our genders:End Quote......................................


Maybe you better go back and re-read again.

[areias]

I agree with Kay...prey drive is totally different from aggression, or "viciousness". And dog aggressive does not automatically translate to human aggressive. I should know, I have a dog that is aggressive towards strange dogs! And he has NO aggressive tendencies towards people-we have kids that mess with him all the time.

I totally forget the sources, but I have read before that if someone had a Pittie back in the day to fight, and it bit a person, it would be destroyed. You cannot have a dog in a fighting ring that bites people...just bringing it to the ring could be dangerous, especially if the dog bit someone in the crowd. They would be culled.

People say pits turn on people. There is a trigger, something is not right...no dog "turns" (unless there is a medical reason). What I wonder about is the people that get a pit, and use it as a guard dog...then the dog either escapes, or someone "rescues" it, and it gets put in a new home...and then it has a tendency to bite. And I don't know what posessed people to get pits as guard dogs in the first place...that wasn't their intended purpose.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again...I have been bitten by a lab, a bichon, and a bull terrier. Agressively by the lab and bichon, and playfully chomped down on by the bull terrier.

I don't want to drag this in here, but I will. And I expect to get bashed for it. Anyone who is 100% against pits, is racist against that breed. You can say the SAME thing for the races of people. Definately not getting into a racist argument, and not trying to offend anyone, but it is said that when black people move into a neighborhood, crime goes up, the neighborhood value goes down...etc etc. Not that I believe in this, but that is what is said. Not every black person steals, and not every white person is an angel. It's the same exact thing with breeds of dog.
I saw a bumper sticker once...it was awesome..it said "STOP RACIAL PROFILING" with a picture of a black man, white man, asian woman, and a pit bull.

[Karen]

I am closing this thread. Enough has been said, and the original question has been answered. No further bickering need happen.