Did I miss the logic here?

[catnapper]

Ashley and Cameron are playing in the livingroom -- he has nothing on except a diaper. Here's the conversation:
Me: Ummm, Ash why is Cam naked?
Ash: because all his clothes are dirty.
Me: Everything is in the laundry right now.
I go upstairs to his closet, which is FULL of clothes. I toss a cute Carters jumper down the steps and......
Ash: I am not putting that on him. Its ugly.
Me:
Then I told her that I put an empty laundry basket on her floor and she needs to remove the "ugly" from the closet so I could put it on ebay.

Its freezing outside and she's got a naked baby inside. When it was hot, she had in in long sleeved sleepers and he was sweating to death. Now she's letting him cold just because the clothes are "ugly".

For the record, the stuff she's calling ugly is perfectly charming and cute. Its all either new or in fabulous condition.... all name brands like Carters Gymboree, Baby Gap, Old Navy.

So did I miss the logic boat on this one? Even if the stuff is ugly, will he die from ugliness before freezing to death? Here you can really tell she's only 18. Someone more mature would have stuck their kid in the ugliest, most stained outfit just to keep him warm... or they'd have left him in his sleeper.

[jackie]

Thats weird, its not like she wanted to take him out of the house... silly girl.

[Cataholic]

I have a relation, who will remain unnamed, that turned her nose up at FREE, age appropriate clothing, for similar reasons.

As to freezing in the house, well, you must keep it pretty cool in there for that to be a possibility. I have just never been a fan of Jonah wandering around in his underwear....though, I do know people that think it is no big deal at all. I don't even like him in just his t-shirt and pants!

[Sevaede]

Geez! That's kinda goofy.

I don't know, though, my sister in law will put a pretty nice (in whatever way. I don't know if they are expensive outfits but they're things you wouldn't wear every day) outfit on my niece RIGHT before she eats and then get all irritated when Grace (2 yrs on Dec 25) gets messy. She doesn't bother to help her out, put a bib on her, watch her, or put messy-clothes on. Gracie usually ends up wearing four or five outfits a day. Brandi also won't put something on Gracie if she thinks "it's ugly". She's 26.

My peeve? When she lets her clothes mildew!

[jenluckenbach]

This is not the first time I heard a reference to Ashley NOT liking Camry's choice of clothes. I am feeling quite like "Well, I am surely not going to spend any more money on gifts of clothes only for them to be rejected! " He will NOT die due to UGLY. Just wait until he chooses his OWN clothes....THAT will probably be uglier!

(p.s. I too prefer a clothed baby to a naked one. Don't know why, just personal preference)

[caseysmom]

Kim Perhaps she knows it bugs you and she is doing it on purpose. Maybe ignore it for a while...turn the heat up so he doesn't freeze and see what happens...although she isn't paying the heating bill so she won't care. I love it when my girls walk around in spaghetti straps and complain about how cold it is in the house

[molucass]

I'm 21 (and pregnant) and I personally wouldn't care whether or not it was ugly. If they still fit I would be glad to let my baby wear it. I mean if its just around the house, why does it matter whether or not it is ugly.
I wouldn't let my baby be in just a diaper when its cold outside, regardless if the child is in the house.

[kimlovescats]

I feel your pain!

[critter crazy]

Some people just dont get it! My SIL wouldnt take used baby clothes from me, she preferred to go out and buy all brand new stuff! It is rediculous, i dont get it, they grow so fast that they only get to wear an outfit a couple of times anyways! Now my niece on the other hand, juts emptied out the attic with all of our baby stuff, cause she is due in march! She loved all the free stuff, i was so happy i could help!

[catnapper]

I told hubby the story and he rolled his eyes.

All I know is the girl needs a serious wake up call... she's worried about his clothes being ugly more so than serious things like what his father does to support him. Things are getting too stressful for her. I haven't mentioned it but things are definately stressful and she's been on edge. He screamswhen he's with her all the time now, and quiets when we take him from her. He knows she's tense and he picks up on it. Hubby tore into her last night because she wanted to watch a movie and he decided to have a temper tantrum. She screamed at him that she is "tired of his crap" Poor girl couldn't watch her movie.... awwww... pity party for the 18 year old mom Hubby said she should NEVER tell her son that his crying is a bunch of crap. Its getting bad. Thursday should be "interesting" because hubby's sisters will be here and they plan on giving her a lecture on growing up.

[critter crazy]

Well All I know is thank the lord that you and hubby are there!!! Could you imagine how she would be if you went?? I have to hand it to you, you guys are keeping that baby safe, and helping her out at the same time. she does need to grow up, unfortunately we cant dictate just how fast!

My SIL adopted a baby from a young girl(friend of the family) who got pregnant at 14! two years later she was pregnant again! so my SIL being the wonderful person she is adopted the next little girl, now she is prgnant again! she says she plans on keeping this baby, but already is having problems with her boyfriend. My SIL has already said she cannot adopt the third, it would be too much! But this girl has been pregnant 3 times,at age 14, 16, and 18! what is wrong with the youth of today?? do they not get it?? I AM SCARED TO THINK WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THIS BABY!

[Sara luvs her Tinky]

This makes me think of all those teenage girls on the talk shows that want and will have a baby no matter what. They just don't realize the sacrifices you have to make. She should be thankful that she has you guys and isn't doing it on her own.

Anyways.... as far as the "ugly" outfit... 90% of Alden's clothes are 2nd hand... and I can't be more thankful for them... And if I even thought that it might be ugly... i just put it on him and he turns it 100% ~*CUTE*~. LOL.....

[Cookiebaker]

Maybe someday she will grow up. Life is harsh, and its not about whether a baby outfit is ugly or not. It's about learning to be thankful for all the blessings and treasures that we have.

[moosmom]

Kim,

I'd keep an eye on Ashley. She sounds WAY too stressed out. Yelling at an infant is not a good sign. I hope your SIL's can talk some sense into her. She sounds like she definitely needs a wake up call.

I also think that Caseysmom is right. Just wait till he's old enough to pick out his own clothes. THAT should be a definitely experience.

Hang in there Nana Kim.

[catnapper]

I just spoke with her -- apparently her grant for school next semester is NOT going through because they are waiting for Child support info. The CS she's NOT getting? And WON'T apply for?

Anyway, the Financial Aid people asked if she lives at home, she said yes, and then Financial Aid said "well then they are helping you with your child" she said NO.... ummmm, we're NOT?!?! Sure we don't hand her money left and right but we're providing a roof over their heads, heat, water, electricity, I buy him shoes, clothes (which she won't put on him because they're "ugly") Ah, but she doesn't pay those bills or rent so she doesn't consider those things. She takes them for granted. We're almost out of diapers and I REFUSE to buy more because she swears the other grandmom offers to by him diapers and clothes every time she sees the baby.... so I'm waiting to see that offer become reality. We have maybe enough diapers to make it til Thanksgiving. Lets see if she gets diapers on thursday from daddy's family.

She's the #1 reason why I am searching for a fulltime job. If not for her, I know I wouldn't have just given up on my dream of my own company. I would be fighting and pounding the streets for a way to make it grow. But she has NO CLUE what I do to help her, what I've done for her and the baby. So I'll find a job and let her figure out a way to get child care and a ride to and from school -- I'll be at work when she needs a taxi service and babysitter.