Pitbulls ??Aggression, Fact or Not???

[borzoimom]

well I guess we'll never know. I just seriously think there is more to this story, but that's just me.

I am afraid not. Even the dog she attacked was not an intact dog.. None of this made any sense... None of it...

[MajesticCollies]

Pitbulls ??Aggression, Fact or Not???
I grew up with the breed because thats all my dad wanted. The only way he would buy them was if they were registered. The problem is . I want one but my hsband has bought into all of the media hype about them. I have tried to explain its all in how they are raised but he is petrified. I was hoping that if he saw some positive responses on here it would help.. I would appreciate any responses.
Heather

OK here's my two cents and I'm afraid it isn't on the positive note. Steele my Blue Merle Collie has a brother named Remington. Obviously brothers Remington Steele. Now you know where he gets his name. Anyhow, Remi lived in a house hold with multiple dogs and one was a Pit. The loving family pet Pittbull we are accustomed too. But one day in the back yard for no reason the pit snapped and literally tore off the bottom jaw of Remi. Yes this beautiful collie had to be put down. Farse? or uncontrollable aggression?
No one knows. The friendly family Pit was then removed from the house hold.
It's not that just this breed can snap, but its the power of the bite and the passion of this breed to hold onto and finish what he started till the very end resulting in the worst of injuries or death.
I know people who have pits, I give them hugs and belly rubs like any other dog, but I will never ever have one in my house hold just for the reason of the POSSIBILITY of this breed snapping. The last thing I would want to do is to intervene while this Pit is having a death grip on a nother dog for it to turn on me or my kids.
This is my point of view.

[borzoimom]

Thats my point- my friends dog wasnt from a trailer park or badly raised or socialized badly etc- in fact highly trained - had two obedience titles- a Cd and CDX and yet one day for noooooooooooooooooo reason jumped a fence in a place she was use to seeing other dogs and attacked terribly a spayed dog, and then turned on the owner that tried to save her dog.. Something is not right here in the brains of these dogs... Even noooooooooo pd in a concentrated area will use these breeds in PD because they can not NOT GET THE DOG to stop an attack... Its like- once the attack starts, they can not stop... Something is wrong here- and it scares me... I knew my friends dog, even tried to help her get the dog passed into therapy work when they said the breed was not accepted- only to have it COME BACK MY FACE that the breeds are not reliable enough... I hate to admit this- but they were right... Once a "pit " starts a fight , it will finish and the jaw pressure is deadly... totally.. deadly...

[rutylr]

[QUOTE=MajesticCollies] Remi lived in a house hold with multiple dogs and one was a Pit. The loving family pet Pittbull we are accustomed too. But one day in the back yard for no reason the pit snapped and literally tore off the bottom jaw of Remi.

The breed can be dog aggressive.Even in a home where two dogs get along for a long time,it can happen.They should never be left alone with any dog.It is the way they are and people who don't know this should not own them.Those are the people who think this would never happen to my dog.They grew up together.(dogs don't think like that)



but its the power of the bite and the passion of this breed to hold onto and finish what he started till the very end resulting in the worst of injuries or death.


APBT don't have any more pressure in their bite then any other big dog.

[rutylr]

Thats my point- my friends dog wasnt from a trailer park or badly raised or socialized badly etc- in fact highly trained - had two obedience titles- a Cd and CDX and yet one day for noooooooooooooooooo reason jumped a fence in a place she was use to seeing other dogs and attacked terribly a spayed dog, and then turned on the owner that tried to save her dog.. Something is not right here in the brains of these dogs... Even noooooooooo pd in a concentrated area will use these breeds in PD because they can not NOT GET THE DOG to stop an attack... Its like- once the attack starts, they can not stop... Something is wrong here- and it scares me... I knew my friends dog, even tried to help her get the dog passed into therapy work when they said the breed was not accepted- only to have it COME BACK MY FACE that the breeds are not reliable enough... I hate to admit this- but they were right... Once a "pit " starts a fight , it will finish and the jaw pressure is deadly... totally.. deadly...

Again your friends dog was not as APBT but and Am.Staff.This thread is about APBT's.
Your friend must not have known about the breed and it's standard or she would have known that they can be dog aggressive.I watch my dogs all the time and don't let strange dogs near them.It is better toooooooo be safe then sorry.If your friend know what she was doing it might not have happened.

[animal_rescue]

*nods nods* I agree with rutylr on everything!

[borzoimom]

MY FRIEND knew exactly and was out to prove them wrong... you want her mail address at the jail???? IN MY MIND totally qualified to take on a breed that had or could have issues- totally... noooooooooooooo kidding..
Look- I am not bashing the breeds- i am saying you better have things in place- insurance, etc to cover yourself.. this is very very very serious....

[MajesticCollies]

[QUOTE] rutylr

Remi lived in a house hold with multiple dogs and one was a Pit. The loving family pet Pittbull we are accustomed too. But one day in the back yard for no reason the pit snapped and literally tore off the bottom jaw of Remi.

The breed can be dog aggressive.Even in a home where two dogs get along for a long time,it can happen.They should never be left alone with any dog.It is the way they are and people who don't know this should not own them.Those are the people who think this would never happen to my dog.They grew up together.(dogs don't think like that)

So Basically you are saying the Pitbull is DANGEROUS to have in your house. who would want a dog that you could not trust if you leave them alone?

[borzoimom]

Its not worth it to me... I saw the cost emotionally and money- its not worth it.. something is in the brain that is not a physical fault that the dog wont stop until it kills... Its JUST NOT WORTH it to me... just not....
Now you pit lovers- what should I say to my friend tomorrow??? This was a properly raised dog, wonderful- the " snap" is not even the brain- its like instinct as the two vets that exaimed the body... etc with allllllllllll the tests paid for by the state..... Its like living with a wild animal- you JUST NEVER know ever ever ever... Its in there... you just never know when the dragon will rear its head... and you need to know that... dont come back later and tell us stories of problems with this- you brought it on yourself.. YOU DID it- you took the breed in... YOU DID IT...

[Suki Wingy]

Thanks, so when my dog attacks me I'll know It's was all MY FAULT. Even though he's give his life for me and vice versa. Looks like I'll be needing the ignore feature.

[luvofallhorses]

Looks like I'll be needing the ignore feature.

same here. I think this thread has gone way TOO far and needs to be closed! I am seriously SO sick of people bashing pit bulls here left and right and couldn't give a damn if they are good dogs.

[borzoimom]

do you see the picture of my daughter with the shepherd? She was like 5 but the dog was a top notch PD SCH 111 police dog.. the difference- I knew that dog knew when to bite= i could control the dog- you can NOT controll any of the pit breeds- can NOT.. BELIEVE IT OR NOT bash me if you want but if I save one life in a person from having this bomb in their household- I will... YOU CAN NOT CONTROL a pitt breed short of keeping it leashed at alllllllll times with nooooooooooooo other dogs in your house.. I am sorry- but over 30 years of training dogs, 20 in police work and you can NOT control a pit breed... PERIOD... and please do not come back and tell us stories of who maimed who for life... doesnt fly with me.. and I quit here on this topic PERIOD...

[luvofallhorses]

I am not going to post anymore on this thread. it's just too upsetting and needs to be closed.

[wolf_Q]

Borzoimom, OK we get it, you don't like pit bulls. I'm sorry about what happened to your friend, but campaigning against all pit bulls is not going to change the past. You know what you should do with your dislike of pit bulls? Don't ever get one. The end.

If you support breed specific legislation like the banning of pit bulls you are just opening the door to banning of many other breeds (which has already happened in some places) and eventually possible restrictions like this on ALL dogs.

I've worked at a grooming salon for over 4 years and we did have one pretty bad incident with a pittie, but I don't hold that against all pits. The worst bites I have received working there were from 2 poodles and a cat and I don't blame all poodles and cats for that either, that would be ridiculous.

ALL dogs are capable of biting, that is how they defend themselves. Some dogs just have a much higher tolerance level of what will push them to react and bite.

I personally would not get a pit bull, they are just not the breed for me, but I do not have any problems with responsible people having them and I think they can be great dogs. I have a siberian husky and I've had many people take one look at him and think he is a vicious dog, and it hurts to have people feel that way about your beloved pet. Your comments are hurtful (especially what you wrote about Maximus...I hope his "mom" doesn't see that), you've said waaaay more than your 2 cents.

Just adding one more thing........the most unpredictable and out of control dog I have ever met was an ex-police trained german shepherd. He would attack without warning or reason. I am not trying to say anything bad about GSDs, just that any dog, reguardless of breed, can have "issues" not just pit bulls.

This thread needs to be closed IMO.

[borzoimom]

THIS IS THE PICTURE OF my daughter with a highly trained police dog- the differece- the dog knew- .... pits dont... you can NOT STOP a pit in an attack period and it scares me to death to see pictures of pits with babies so go on a pit denial forum cause it scares me...