Would this upset you?

[sparks19]

I never said he was stupid, incompetent or can't do anything right. I did say he was lazy.



I did sit down and talk to him, and that's when I found out that he couldn't get a ride. He then lied to me and said he asked my mom what I wanted. He claims that she told him she didn't know. That is a lie on 2 fronts. He never asked her, and 2, she kept a list of what I wanted so she would know.

Someone else suggested that I keep a wish list. I do. He must have forgotten about it.

But to answer your question, yes I am disgusted with him, but not just over this birthday incident. There is a lot more going on that fueled this blow out.

Thanks everyone for your opinions. I did ask for them, however, I didn't ask to be called names, but none the less, I put my business out there, so I'm fair game, I guess.

I didn't know about the lying and that IS 100% unacceptable. Did you ask your mother about that? I hope you confronted him about that. I most certainly would confront my husband if he ever lied to me. It really sounds like there are some serious problems and I really do hope you can both get past this "rough patch".

I can understand somewhat about the driving though. I don't drive. i don't even have my license. i do NOT like to drive. I detest it. I sometimes feel bad because my husband has to do all the driving, but he knew about this before he married me. I am simply not comfortable in a vehicle ESPECIALLY to drive it.

I don't recall anyone calling you names I could be wrong but I just don't have the energy or ambition right now to go check LOL.

I have been in some TERRIBLe relationships. They were full of lies, anger, arguments, and hateful words. I will NEVER be in a relationship like that again. I will always tell the truth even when it hurts, I will not dwell on the past, and I will not manipulate OR be manipulated. I made it perfectly clear when my husband and I started dating that if he ever felt the need to disrespect me that I would make short work of that. I give him all the respect in the world and he does the same for me and I would not tolerate any different. Respect and honesty are expected, demanded, and always reciprocated (this goes for him and myself).

Bob's Dad. LOL I didn't take it seriously. I don't get angry (unless it is called for) A lot ofpeople read my posts and think I am upset or a real harda$$ but you can't really tell from a post (unless I used some choice words LOL) The only thing that matters in my life is my family, friends and all our well being. the rest is just too piddly to get upset about. I have a sister who is angry ALL the time and what a terrible way to live life. Life is too short to be angry. I always find your sarcasm funny and refreshing I grew up in sarcasmville LOL when visiting with my family you better leave your feelings at the door haha because we are full of sarcasm (amongst other things lol).

[caseysmom]

this seems timely....no offense to all the men on pettalk, they are all the best.



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[Killearn Kitties]

Aww sweetheart, do you want to tell us what happened?

[sparks19]

LOL Uh oh Caseysmom. I could be in big trouble or taking a lot of classes lol

Other than the whole lifting the toilet seat thing (that obviously doesn't apply to me LOL) But as for the rest I have been guilty of all of those things more than once LOL.

[caseysmom]

Aww sweetheart, do you want to tell us what happened?

Not sure if you were referring to me or Debby but I am frustrated right now too. My teenager is acting out and my hubby blames me and it is really annoying, he works too much and hasn't been fathering enough so it must be nice to sit back and blame me. This and with the stress of my niece and my brothers estate...I may not make it to 26 years married...I am really fed up

[BOBS DAD]

Hang in there CS...

after 25 years you know that when it rains - it pours! And how about another ol' cliche... it always gets worse before it gets better.

I hope tomorrow is a much better day for you and that next week and the following are better yet!!!

[sparks19]

Not sure if you were referring to me or Debby but I am frustrated right now too. My teenager is acting out and my hubby blames me and it is really annoying, he works too much and hasn't been fathering enough so it must be nice to sit back and blame me. This and with the stress of my niece and my brothers estate...I may not make it to 26 years married...I am really fed up

Teenagers are a handful even with two parents raising them constantly. I don't have any but I sure remember what I was like as a Teenager and I regret every minute I treated my mom badly..... Just keep in the back of your mind that ONE day you will be their best friend. I know my mom is my best friend. They will grow up and when they become adults they will NEED your advice. My mom doesn't interfere if not asked but I ask her all the time because I am not always sure. She has even volunteered to nanny for me for the first few months after our first child because she knows how overwhelmed I get just thinking about it. Just keep telling yourself "one day she will see from the eyes of a mother"

Good luck Teenagers can be a bugger

[caseysmom]

Thanks Sparks I know one day she will look back and have some regret, I just wish she didn't have to go through this.

[timlewis]

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I already know all I need to know about those things, NOTHING, I call those things my WIFE. LOLOL

[JenBKR]

I didn't read through this whole thread, just wanted to add my two cents. I'm sort of thinking that it's not so much the gift that bothered you, but more the lack of thought that went into it. Personally, I would prefer a thoughtful gift to an expensive one. My husband sometimes gets it right.....I remember one Christmas a few years ago, my husband bought me a purse as one of my gifts. I know what you're thinking, a man buying a purse, that can't go well. But, he told me that he was trying them on in the middle of the department store - he knows that I am picky about the length of the strap. I like my purse to be right at my hip when it's on my shoulder. So he tried a bunch on to find one that sat in the right place. The thought of my husband trying on purses in a department store was so funny and sweet, and that gift meant more to me than if he'd have gotten me expensive jewelry. Because of the thought that went into it. He is not always so thoughtful, believe me, but I was just thinking that maybe you are upset because he didn't really think it through. I know you also said that there are some other things going on too, so maybe it's everything at once. Does that make sense? ((((hugs)))) And of course I don't think you are being a diva, not at all! Our feelings are our feelings, and no one should tell us how to feel!

[Luvin Labs]

He gave you a birthday card AND flowers ON your birthday.

I voted "diva" only because "of course" and "unsure" didn't fit with me...

I see this comment...

So here I am, post-op, getting the baby dressed to go out in the dead of Chicago winter to spend the equivalent of a car payment on a cell phone with a baby in tow, and I get a DVD and head phones.

Then I see this comment...

Second of all, this isn't about the amount he spent on gifts, but the thought behind them.

To me, it sounds like those two are contradicting statements. You don't care about the cost yet you are sounding pissed that you are paying for an expensive cell phone (for him?) and yet you get "a dvd and headphones". But I may be reading it wrong.

I am tickled pink when my DH gives me a card and flowers. If that is all he gave me that would be fine for me.

Is there a reason he does not buy things off the internet? Perhaps he doesn't trust it like others do? Or just not that knowledgable about the internet?

so he can't do a lot of things right as it is

this just sounds so harsh (the whole first post does actually)!!!

I never said he was stupid, incompetent or can't do anything right. I did say he was lazy.

You actually DID say he can't do anything right (well, very close to it "a lot of things right")...

I'm truly sorry that this isn't the only problem with your marriage. How long have you been married? I hope it works out for you and your husband.

[timlewis]

Like many others I may be wrong but it sounds to me like you are interested mostly in material things. You said he doesnt do a lot of things right, well do you do everything right, maybe not as many wrongs as him but that doesnt matter none of us do it all right. Maybe some more than others, I cant complain I have the greatest wife any man could want, althogh she doesnt do everything right or atleast everything to fit me. She does a lot while i sit around doing nothing productive, if I ever lost my wife it would honestly cripple me I dont do much of anything except work. And might I add that since April 5 men that I knew one was my cousin lost their lives in the coal mines one i helped do CPR on although we knew he wouldnt make it. Point being these families will never see their husbands and dads again and they would give their lives for one more card and flowers, just for them being around for their b-day who cares what u get. We all need to think about what is really important each other, I dont know how much u all know about coal mining but seeing a man dead and nothing u can do about it no matter what u do really makes u think about things. So when ur husband comes home give him a kiss and hug and tell him how much u Love him and think about what these familys would give to be able to just see theirs again.