I would have loved to see the Presiden'ts face after reading this....

[Lady's Human]

No, I think everyone would appreciate a break from people politicizing everything.

The president could stand at the podium and state "the sky is blue" and the next three hours of airtime would be spent debating the issue and attacking the president for making such a stupid statement (Regardless of who is in office), with the requisite experts stating that the sky is actually not blue, it is pink, etc.

[Edwina's Secretary]

No, I think everyone would appreciate a break from people politicizing everything.

The president could stand at the podium and state "the sky is blue" and the next three hours of airtime would be spent debating the issue and attacking the president for making such a stupid statement (Regardless of who is in office), with the requisite experts stating that the sky is actually not blue, it is pink, etc.

must be something......uniquely American......

[LilacDragon]

Strange, I don't remember him saying he was a great guy. I must have taken a bathroom break or something?

Puleeze - every speech he gives any more is a tribute to himself and how he knows better then anyone how to run the world.

[Lady's Human]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/...ipt/index.html


How is this speech in ANY way self congratulatory?

[LilacDragon]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/...ipt/index.html


How is this speech in ANY way self congratulatory?

I'm sorry. You are right. At no point does he take personal credit for much of anything.

I see that he does go on a bit about removing Saddam and his threat from power. He mentions Weapons of Mass Destruction. Saddam hasn't ever been an express threat to us! We sold him weapons not all that long ago. And the first time we went into the Gulf was because he had sent troops into Kuwait - it had nothing to do with protecting America. And if he was such a threat, why didn't we take care of it while we were there the first time. At no time has he supported Al Qaeda - that would be Syria. Ah, but not only are Syrians the "friends" of the U.S. in general - Syrian officials are friends of the Bush family.

Sorry, but if we can consider impeaching a President for a stupid stain on a dress, why is it that a man who lies to Congress to follow a personal agenda that gets thousands of people killed is allowed to stand at a podium and tell me how much God loves me?

[Lady's Human]

We didn't take care of Saddam Hussein the first time we were in Iraq because it was outside of the UN mandate for the operation, and we were invading with troops on line next to US troops who would have thought nothing of turning the turrets of their T-72s 90 degrees left or right and engaging US Forces (Syrian) had we crossed that line.

The Syrian Monarchy has never been a friend of the US, merely an ally of convenience during DS because Iraq was as much a threat to Syria as anyone else. Both sides play that game, and have for aeons, as "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"

The US sold Iraq conventional weapons during the early 1980's while they were fighting Iran as a counterbalance to Iranian power. During the 1970's we sold arms to Iran for the same reasons, so there was a counterweight to growing Iraqi power. Geopolitics is ugly, and makes for strange and temporary alliances.

[LilacDragon]

You know what - we are going to have to agree to disagree on the current administration. Apparently you like it - I do not.

[Lady's Human]

As discussed ad nauseum in other political threads, there are things that the present administration has done that I like, and there are things that the current administration has done that I don't like. That statement holds true for the Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, and Bush 41 administrations, and holds true for my historical knowledge of all administrations. There are Democrats I would support, there are Republicans I would support. No administration is perfect.

[RICHARD]

Sorry, but if we can consider impeaching a President for a stupid stain on a dress, why is it that a man who lies to Congress to follow a personal agenda that gets thousands of people killed is allowed to stand at a podium and tell me how much God loves me?

Because you could get the stain out with Permatex Hand Cleaner with Lanoline and Aloe!


Think of all the little "swimmers" that Clinton and Monica killed, and then Billy lied about it.


Since we argue about the 'beginning of life' let's take a mircroscopic look at it., eh?


LH, the sky is GRAY!

That's what Al Gore said, and he's not the prez....

[Edwina's Secretary]

On September 11, 2001, a group of horrible men...most from Saudi Arabia, planned and executed a terrible attack on buildings in New York and Washington. A horrible, horrible tragedy in which nearly 3,000 innocent people were killed.

Shortly afterwards, the current administration made the decision to invade one of the many countries in the world ruled by a despicable dictator.

George Bush has acknowledge on many occasions that there was NOT any connection between the Iraqi government nor Saddam Hussein and the men who committed the horrible crime of 9/11.

George Bush's speech of 9/11/06 was mostly devoted to justifying his decision to invade Iraq, a war which has cost almost 3,000 American soldiers' lives and the lives of tens of thousands Iraqis -- to date.

And THAT is politicizing a national tragedy....and THAT is self-serving. And THAT is turning this speech into a soap box for the administration's unpopular war.

[Lady's Human]

The Pres can't win. If he mentions Iraq at all, the speech is all about justifying Iraq. If he doens't mention Iraq, he's avoiding the subject.

[LilacDragon]

The Pres can't win. If he mentions Iraq at all, the speech is all about justifying Iraq. If he doens't mention Iraq, he's avoiding the subject.

LOL!!

That probably wouldn't be a problem if he had had a legitimate reason to go in in the first place.

[Edwina's Secretary]

The Pres can't win.

And it has become painfully obvious he has no plan for winning in Iraq!

[mugsy]

You know what? At this point it doesn't matter if it was right or wrong to go into Iraq. The point is that we are there. We need to finish things up and bring them home.

And whether we like it or not, presidents are never right for everyone and are never going to make everyone happy. GW is disliked as much by the Democrats and Clinton was by the Republicans. Truth be told, neither one of them are truly fine upstanding members of the community. I would say that Clinton is much smarter than Bush and Bush is probably more "moral" than Clinton, but, I think both of them are idiots, but, then I think that most politicians are idiots simply because they are not in politics to better the country, they're in it for the glory and fame and to get themselves on TV...I'm so tired of politicians I can't stand it and I'm sick of the parties bad mouthing each other instead of working together to fix things.

Ok, I'm done now...

[Edwina's Secretary]

You know what? At this point it doesn't matter if it was right or wrong to go into Iraq. The point is that we are there. We need to finish things up and bring them home.

I think it does matter if it was right or wrong to go into Iraq. If we don't learn from the past we will be forced to repeat it.....