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    What century does this guy live in?

    He needs to review Loving v. Virginia, 1967

    Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.
    By MARY FOSTER, Associated Press Writer


    NEW ORLEANS – A Louisiana justice of the peace said he refused to issue a marriage license to an interracial couple out of concern for any children the couple might have. Keith Bardwell, justice of the peace in Tangipahoa Parish, says it is his experience that most interracial marriages do not last long.

    "I'm not a racist. I just don't believe in mixing the races that way," Bardwell told the Associated Press on Thursday. "I have piles and piles of black friends. They come to my home, I marry them, they use my bathroom. I treat them just like everyone else."

    Bardwell said he asks everyone who calls about marriage if they are a mixed race couple. If they are, he does not marry them, he said.

    Bardwell said he has discussed the topic with blacks and whites, along with witnessing some interracial marriages. He came to the conclusion that most of black society does not readily accept offspring of such relationships, and neither does white society, he said.

    "There is a problem with both groups accepting a child from such a marriage," Bardwell said. "I think those children suffer and I won't help put them through it."

    If he did an interracial marriage for one couple, he must do the same for all, he said.

    "I try to treat everyone equally," he said.

    Bardwell estimates that he has refused to marry about four couples during his career, all in the past 2 1/2 years.

    Beth Humphrey, 30, and 32-year-old Terence McKay, both of Hammond, say they will consult the U.S. Justice Department about filing a discrimination complaint.

    Humphrey, an account manager for a marketing firm, said she and McKay, a welder, just returned to Louisiana. She is white and he is black. She plans to enroll in the University of New Orleans to pursue a masters degree in minority politics.

    "That was one thing that made this so unbelievable," she said. "It's not something you expect in this day and age."

    Humphrey said she called Bardwell on Oct. 6 to inquire about getting a marriage license signed. She says Bardwell's wife told her that Bardwell will not sign marriage licenses for interracial couples. Bardwell suggested the couple go to another justice of the peace in the parish who agreed to marry them.

    "We are looking forward to having children," Humphrey said. "And all our friends and co-workers have been very supportive. Except for this, we're typical happy newlyweds."

    "It is really astonishing and disappointing to see this come up in 2009," said American Civil Liberties Union of Louisiana attorney Katie Schwartzmann. "The Supreme Court ruled as far back as 1963 that the government cannot tell people who they can and cannot marry."

    The ACLU sent a letter to the Louisiana Judiciary Committee, which oversees the state justices of the peace, asking them to investigate Bardwell and recommending "the most severe sanctions available, because such blatant bigotry poses a substantial threat of serious harm to the administration of justice."

    "He knew he was breaking the law, but continued to do it," Schwartzmann said.

    According to the clerk of court's office, application for a marriage license must be made three days before the ceremony because there is a 72-hour waiting period. The applicants are asked if they have previously been married. If so, they must show how the marriage ended, such as divorce.

    Other than that, all they need is a birth certificate and Social Security card.

    The license fee is $35, and the license must be signed by a Louisiana minister, justice of the peace or judge. The original is returned to the clerk's office.

    "I've been a justice of the peace for 34 years and I don't think I've mistreated anybody," Bardwell said. "I've made some mistakes, but you have too. I didn't tell this couple they couldn't get married. I just told them I wouldn't do it."

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    Imagine that. He lets them use his bathroom.......

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    In some parts of the country, he'd be a progressive.
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    Wait! He can't be a racist, he has black friends!!

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    Piles and piles of them....who calls people piles????
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    aren't Creole people a mix of races and all over south Louisiana?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    In some parts of the country, he'd be a progressive.
    Eugenics is a progressive idea. Always has been, always will be. Ruth Bader Ginsberg recently displayed as much. They can't say it in mixed company anymore, but its always been there...

    Not that the usual suspects here will comment... They are going to talk about us "defending" this guy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cataholic View Post
    Wait! He can't be a racist, he has black friends!!
    Quote Originally Posted by caseysmom View Post
    Piles and piles of them....who calls people piles????
    of course...

    I mean you CAN'T be racist if you have black FRIENDS. come ON.

    I HATE when people say that lol. I don't hate "insert X group here" I have friends that are "X". but it's always the go to explanation or excuse I guess

    LOL caseysmom... the only time I've ever heard piles in reference to people is in sports when there is a "pile up" does that count?




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    I've also heard the word "piles" used instead of hemorrhoids.

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    What century does this guy live in

    All the returned babies :- This is a little different, they have had him for a whole year now

    Hes an adult. He isnt going to have a clue what is going on and I hope I can make him comfortable and calm while he transitions to our house again.


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    enugssow73 - I think you posted this in the wrong thread. What the heck are you talking about?

    Maybe post a new thread and give a little more detail on the situation.
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    Aarrgh! (banging head on desk) Why do people think along these lines.

    There are same-race marriages that don't work, too.
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    I'm biting my tongue re: gay marriage rights.

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    14 th amendment in the Loving v Virginia

    1967 decision 9 to 0 decision.... In its decision, the court wrote:

    “ Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival.... To deny this fundamental freedom on so unsupportable a basis as the racial classifications embodied in these statutes, classifications so directly subversive of the principle of equality at the heart of the Fourteenth Amendment, is surely to deprive all the State's citizens of liberty without due process of law. The Fourteenth Amendment requires that the freedom of choice to marry not be restricted by invidious racial discrimination. Under our Constitution, the freedom to marry, or not marry, a person of another race resides with the individual and cannot be infringed by the State.
    The U.S. Supreme Court overturned the convictions in a unanimous decision, dismissing the Commonwealth of Virginia's argument that a law forbidding both white and black persons from marrying persons of another race, and providing identical penalties to white and black violators, could not be construed as racially discriminatory. The court ruled that Virginia's anti-miscegenation statute violated both the Due Process Clause and the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.
    and yes , without a doubt, the due process clause and equal protection clause of the American Constution applies to ALL americans in regard to civic marriage. all americans are all americans. religious marriage can still be denied by churches. God Bless the United States Constution, amen
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