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    The Tax Man Cometh

    First, you have this. Falling income tax revenue. Duh. The economy is in the can, so of course you are going to have less revenue. Oddly, it has not stopped our dear leader from spending and spending and spending and spending and spending.... RECORD deficits and that is saying something.

    http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/...nue-down_N.htm



    Which of course leads to this.... The good ole' VAT/ National Sales Tax. Is the the "hopey changey" you voted for? Hmmmmm?

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...602909_pf.html



    Do we as a people REALLY want a government this incompetent to have control of your health care? Do you really think that the government will stop at JUST your health care? You don't think they will use that power to tell you what you can or cannot eat or do?


    I am really starting to get pissed off at the people of this country. How lazy and lemming like are we going to be? Does not ANYbody understand what happens when you destroy the producing (read: RICH) people?

    But, I reckon we will simply reap that which we have sown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post



    Do we as a people REALLY want a government this incompetent to have control of your health care?
    It appears to me that they already do, if they can force a parent to submit a child to chemo or other treatments, against their wishes. And I can hear the masses descending upon me now for making that statement.

    Sorry, but some religious sects believe it is a sin to allow artificial intervention, and even blood transfusions. I personally do not believe that the parents are guilty of child neglect or endangerment if they choose to go this route. Many have in the past, and if a child died because of it, then they have been convicted of anything from neglect to murder, but most sentences were eventually were overturned, so that must send some kind of message.

    Where's the separation of church and state???
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    Quote Originally Posted by pomtzu View Post
    It appears to me that they already do, if they can force a parent to submit a child to chemo or other treatments, against their wishes. And I can hear the masses descending upon me now for making that statement.

    Sorry, but some religious sects believe it is a sin to allow artificial intervention, and even blood transfusions. I personally do not believe that the parents are guilty of child neglect or endangerment if they choose to go this route. Many have in the past, and if a child died because of it, then they have been convicted of anything from neglect to murder, but most sentences were eventually were overturned, so that must send some kind of message.

    Where's the separation of church and state???

    I'm w/you on this one, Ellie. Are we a free country or not? Parents should be allowed to raise their children and manage their welfare as they see fit. It isn't as though they totally refused all health care for their son. My friend in England has the same cancer as Farrah Fawcett and she has chosen to go the alternative route after undergoing chemo and radiation which was too hard on her. Granted, she's an adult but if she had children, she should have the right to choose what form of health care and treatment they will receive while living in America. Increased taxes, control of our health care system, whatever. All life chippers, slowly chipping away at our freedom.
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    And what happened to his tax reduction that he spoke about before he was elected, reducing our income tax that would but $500 extra in our pockets each year?

    How lazy and lemming like are we going to be?
    It terrifies me, what is happening to our country and I can see where it is all going and we are ALLOWING it to happen.

    Our country is going to change drastically, fee speech will be a thing of the past and so will a lot of other things that made America what it is. This country is not going to be what so many have fought and died for.

    I have a friend that keeps saying China is going to own the USA before it is over with.

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    I'm going out on a limb here. But if it weren't for chemotherapy, my daughter would be dead of a malignant brain tumor aka pineal blastoma. She is now 33 years old and the picture of health, aside from double vision (corrected by prisms in her glasses), short term memory loss and having absolutely no emotions whatsoever (can't cry, although she tried when she had to have her cat pts). She's in love and it's wonderful to see her so happy. (*beams with pride*) That's one emotion no one and nothing can take away from her. This year will be her 16th year cancer free.

    Is chemo a poison? Absolutely!! But without it, my daughter wouldn't be here.

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    Respectfully, that isn't the point, Donna. We should be able to choose our health care treatment for ourselves and our children w/out interference from the government on any level. I've known people who have been helped w/chemo, too, but had they chosen an alternative method, I believe it was their right to do so. I'd love to have seen someone try to tell me how to raise my son! They would've seen a mama tiger as they never had seen before!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    Respectfully, that isn't the point, Donna. We should be able to choose our health care treatment for ourselves and our children w/out interference from the government on any level. I've known people who have been helped w/chemo, too, but had they chosen an alternative method, I believe it was their right to do so. I'd love to have seen someone try to tell me how to raise my son! They would've seen a mama tiger as they never had seen before!
    My point exactly Mary. We should have the right to choose, and not have the government forcing it upon us. Fortunately my children were both very healthy, and I never had to make any such decision. But had it been a different scenario, then I feel it should have been my right as a parent to decide a course of treatment.

    If the government forces treatment on a child against the wishes of the parent, then let the government pay for the treatment too. Better yet, let's find a way to just stop it from happening.
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    Sorry

    I also agree with Mary and everyone else here. I think that the Government has no business telling anyone what course of treatment they SHOULD have.

    Rest In Peace Casey (Bubba Dude) Your paw print will remain on my heart forever. 12/02
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    Maya Linn, my heart is broken. The day your beautiful blue eyes went blind was the worst day of my life.I only wish I could've done something.I'll miss your "premium" purr and our little "conversations". 1997-2013 See you again "ONE FINE DAY"

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    Quote Originally Posted by moosmom View Post
    I'm going out on a limb here. But if it weren't for chemotherapy, my daughter would be dead of a malignant brain tumor aka pineal blastoma. She is now 33 years old and the picture of health, aside from double vision (corrected by prisms in her glasses), short term memory loss and having absolutely no emotions whatsoever (can't cry, although she tried when she had to have her cat pts). She's in love and it's wonderful to see her so happy. (*beams with pride*) That's one emotion no one and nothing can take away from her. This year will be her 16th year cancer free.

    Is chemo a poison? Absolutely!! But without it, my daughter wouldn't be here.
    The issue is not chemo being poison. My own father is still here because of it. The issue is the government FORCING it upon a citizen.

    If that does not make you shiver... Oy.
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