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    My sister's chocolate lab, Ben- They need some serious help

    This is a book, I know it, but, I don't want to leave anything out that might trigger something in someone's memory. Thanks for taking the time to read it.


    My sister's 4 year old, nuetered male, Ben is having some serious and mysterious problems. On Sunday night, April 22, Ben seemed to be in significant pain, having dizziness, maybe seizures, wouldn't eat, and shaking. This was significant enough that he underwent exploratory surgery on Monday, 4/23. The vet found that his stomach was an entire ulcer. Entire. Ulcer. Of course, the cause was undetermined, but, biopsy done. Blood work, stool, complete labs. All came back negative for cancer, organ issue. The biopsy came back indicating a food type issue. I don't understand that, I don't know if it means there was evidence of food protein, or what. According to my sister, and she got it from the vet, it showed that it was food related.

    Ben is/was not on any of the recalled foods. He was eating a special diet, something called Ebu (I *think* Maybe Evo...?). So, the left over food was sent to the lab for testing. Those results aren't back yet.

    Ben was in significant pain from the surgery and the ulcer. "Normal" pain meds were not doing anything, and he was wincing, crying, whining, etc. So, the vet put a Fentanyl patch on Ben- maybe Wed. This takes 12 hours to work, and came off 3 days later. So, he was on the patch, and other pain meds, as well as antibiotics, no food, IV fluids, etc. Over the course of these few days, Ben was showing signs of improvement. He didn't get any pain meds yesterday, and the patch, and prolly alot of its effects, would have worn maybe by Monday am (4/30).

    My sister went back to work this Monday (4/30). Ben spent Monday and Tuesday at the vet's office, for observation, as he wasn't acting right. It seemed like he had a seizure. So, my sister had him there for observation. He seemed fine both days there. Sunday night, my sister described the thing like this to me:

    Ben would be lying down, and *immediately* startle, and try to snap at his rear end. Then, he would stand up, and crouch, as if he was pooping, but, he seemed to be stuck in that position, like his back legs couldn't get out of the crouch, and he was hunched over. He would nearly try to walk, but, of course, stumble.

    This is similar to what he was doing before the surgery.

    So, to the vets for observation Monday and Tuesday. She went to work on Wednesday, and had a pet sitter (that knows Ben, and looks after him daily, and has for some months) come by, and stay with him 4 hours. When my sister came home from work yesterday, Ben had vomited what appeared to be his breakfast (rice and beef), and bile. The pet sitter confirmed it wasn't there when she left around 3pm, and that she hadn't fed him, or, ran him (since he is still on restricted activity). She calls the vet with concerns, as this kind of seemed similar to what brought him in. Nothing really came of the call. "yes, that is odd" type of response.

    She called me today (Thurs, 5/3) to tell me this: while Ben was eating his food this am (rice, pasta, home made), he was going back and forth on his front paws, the click, click, clicking of his nails is what drew her attention, and his paws were curled up...like a bird's feet...and he was standing on them like that. He was sniffing behind the bowl, but, there wasn't any food there, and still food in the bowl (so, he wasn't looking to find more food). Then, he did a really low growl, not *at* my sister, but, like past her, as if he saw something (she lives alone, with Ben). She called him to her, and he came, and seemed to be shaking. Of course, she is frantic again, and hesitated to leave for work.

    She called the vet again, and asked for a referral to an internist, and she is waiting on that call now. Ben hasn't done anything abnormal since 7ish.


    Has anyone had any sort of experience that sounds like this? Ideas? Guesses? It is so baffling, so scary, and just a horrible thing for my sister, as well as our family, and, of course, Ben, to handle.

    Please keep Ben and my sister, Judy in your thoughts and prayers.

    Johanna

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    Johanna, I have no insight, but I will extend my prayers to Judy and Ben. What a confusing, scary situation they are dealing with!

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    When in doubt ~ Pray. <picks up Prayer Line> <dials God>

    Hi God ~

    Got anudder Konsult Job fur Ya!

    Whilst You're *buzzin* through Keegan's town, how bout makin a stop at
    Ben's Place, ta meet his White Coat.

    Straaaange Things happenin to that poor boy - better bring da Good Book fur sum tips.

    We'll be addin Ben to the Prayer List; an be krossin Pawz & Klawz till he gets better.

    Please send a Big {{{God'sHug}}} to Sis - an let her know You're onna case.

    Thanks, God!

    /s/ the Prayer Pups
    /s/ Cinder, Smokey & Heidi

    R.I.P. ~ Boots, Bowser, Sherman, & Snoopy

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    WOW!! What an incredibly sad story! I have no recall of ever hearing of anything like this. It sounds like a reaction to something but I'm no expert. All I can offer is my thoughts and prayers for Ben and Judy. I feel really bad for them. It must be devastating to go through this.
    {{{{{{HUGS FOR BEN AND JUDY}}}}}


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    I honestly don't know what it could be, but I just wanted to let you know that I am adding my thoughts and prayers for Ben. It sounds like your sister is doing everything possible.

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    WOW!
    Add me to the list of people that have never heard anything like this!
    Has he had a cat scan? Maybe they need to look further into something Neurological.
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    He hasn't had a CAT, though, he has had an ultrasound on the midsection. An endoscopy has been considered. Apparently, there was something in the tests done already that ruled out neurological issues? Is that possible? I understand that a MRI of the brain would be more definitive, but, can something be gleaned, neuro wise, from lab results?

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    Thinking of Ben and your sister..

    ~Kay, Athena, Ace, Kiara, Mufasa, & Alice!
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    Set ablaze the billboards and their advertisements
    Love with all your hearts and never forget
    How good it feels to be alive
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    Thanks, Guys.

    We went to the internist (specialist) yesterday. We are blessed to have in our area a highly regarded internist/oncologist- diplomat- Dr. Harris. She examined Ben thoroughly, listened to the recitiation of the facts carefully, asked more probing questions, and thinks a couple of things. First, Ben probably does have some sort of intestional issue- forgetting the name right now, but, probably, the ulcerated stomach lining was a result of the hydrogen peroxide given to induce vomiting. She said the path reports told her there was something there in the intestional lining, and Ben's long history of grass eating supported that.

    Then, she said that it is *possible* it is some brain disease, however, he appeared fine to her, neurologically. She did the toe test to the back feet that Giselle references in her post, and Ben 'passed'. She did some funny test to his front feet, as well as do something to both L/R side legs, too. He passed all of those as well. She did some facial things, looked into his eyes, and Ben seemed fine. But, she said it is still possible, and, we can wait and see what develops over time. If he did anything more, my sister is to call her immediately, for additional testing.

    Here is the strange thing- all weird things Ben did after surgery are more likely than not related to the medications he was on. She said, "Oh, yeah, that was caused by X, probably, very common side effect". Then, she was a little stunned when she came to realize *ALL* the meds Ben was on, not only the amount of meds, but, the amounts given and the duration. Yikes. My sister wasn't liking this too much, and feels somewhat distrustful of her primary vet.

    Seems that it is possible the hydrogen peroxide might have been the thing that started Ben on this horrible path. And, it would not be unusual to find the stomach lining torn up after giving an irritant like the peroxide. All the meds were complicating things, and probably causing the issues after the surgery.

    But, this doesn't excuse the first instance- Ben appearing drunk, and acting funny that happened on Sunday and caused the visit to the vet originally. So, that is still a concern. All else is secondary.

    So, this vet wants Ben off everything, for a while, to see what happens. If nothing, then, she wants to treat his intestional issue. If more 'weird' things happen, she wants to do more testing.

    If I might add a funny comment- Ben was a total jackass at the vets, jumping, pulling, whacking that iron tail everywhere, knocking the box of tissues off the reception counter, taking the vets arm into his mouth, and just really acting like a total chocolate nut. The vet said, "this is the dog that is so sick?" <sigh>

    Thanks for keeping Ben and Judy in your thoughts and prayers.

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    I'm glad you guys got him in to see someone else. I am afraid I don't remember why he was given perodixe to induce vomiting? That is so sad it did that to his stomach. I will be praying for him to just get better as fast as possible and have no more "weird" things happen! Poor guy!

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    Vela,
    Originally, on Sunday, the 22nd, he was acting 'drunk', and seemed to be showing symptoms of an obstruction, intense abdominal pain (which I now remember we did not tell the doctor about yesterday), and upon xray, there was a grayish 'mass' on xray...so, induced vomiting, gave an enama, did a barium thing, and maybe that was when the xray showed a mass? ARGH. Anyhow, the surgery was the next day after the perioxide/enema, and the specialty vet said it is *possible* that his stomach could look like that after a night of vomiting.

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    Oh Ben, mom and auntie are doing everything they can for you. Let's hope it is all some weird experience that is past and over. Ppart of it a result of those meds, part of it just "one of those things." I am praying for you to be your lovable young self from now on!

    Joanna, if a specialist is wondering about what the primary did, then yeah, maybe it is time to switch vets.

    And, as you noted above, so much has happened in such a short time and both of you are forgeting some things to tell the specialist. Perhaps it would help if you wrote it all down and kept if for a week or so, just to be sure he is over this.
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    So, How's Ben??

    Hope his Tummy Trubbilz are over & done!

    /s/ Cinder, Smokey & Heidi

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    hydrogen peroxide? yikes. I had given my crayola some to get some allergic food out of him after someone took him away. it helped a lot - that was pretty a while ago.

    expresso - I'm so sorry ben is not being himself. I pray the conforming diagonsis will be said and he'll be better right after!! mega prayers coming for sure - he's such a BEAU, never can forget him.


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