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[Giglez]

KYS,
Sounds just like my dog when she was little, except for the feathers and fur. We watch her VERY closely to make sure she doesn't hunt. Crayons were a big favorite, and we had to make ABSOLUTELY sure all crayons were non-toxic and that EVERYTHING was off floors and tables that she could get to.
She is a herding dog who loves to herd our multiple cats, and was depressed when my 10 year old kitty cat died back in August. She is slowly getting back to her normal self, and when I talked to our vet she said she wasn't surprised. The poor dog took her death harder then I did

I completely agree! Dogs are 2 year old children . . . with fur! Gotta love 'em!

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[KYS]

Giglez:
and was depressed when my 10 year old kitty cat died back in August. >>>>>>

That is so sad. I truely believe that dogs
morn.

[dogncatluvr]

KYS,

Yes, dogs do indeed mourn. When my beloved Lab/Shep X passed away 4 years ago, my remaining Lab went into a deep depression over the winter. She had no interest in walks or playing, just wanted to sleep. I got a new Lab puppy the next April, and she hated the new puppy for the first 2 weeks. She was meaning to really harm her. But after 2 weeks she seemed to snap out of it and they became, and still are, best friends.

[AdoreMyDogs]

My dog, Graham, mourned so terribly for the death of our beloved yellow lab He would not leave "Beener's" grave site in the back yard, he would sleep on it and refuse to leave it for the longest time. It was terrible. Beener was so adored, he was with us for 13 years and he was a truly gentle being, him and Graham were BEST friends to the end! When Beener got cancer and I made the decision to put him to sleep, Graham KNEW! I had the vet come to the house to put Beener to sleep because I thought it would be the most comfortable thing for my sweet old friend, to be in the comfort of his own home...when the vet's car pulled up, Graham KNEW it was time! He frantically ran to Beener (who was lying on the floor on about a million blankets and pillows) and he plastered himself at Beeners side, and licked his face all over, I had never seen Graham lick Beeners face before, ever. We had to litterly pull him away from Beener and carry him outside, the vet could tell by Grahams attachment that Graham may try to prevent that vet from putting that kneedle into Beener's leg. The vet strongly suggested that we keep Graham in the backyard while he was there, because Graham was so in tuned with what was happening, and he was not ready for it.

We put poor Graham in the backyard and went to say our last words to Beener before the vet did his thing, and through our sobbing, we could hear Graham litterly wailing in the yard...it was a sound that I had not heard from him before, nor have I heard it since. It sounded like a ghost. It was the most horrible thing in the whole world. He knew, not a doubt in our minds that he knew. When the vet finally left, we carried Beener to the backyard where we burried him. Graham, who is normally the sweetest, happiest, most dependent dog, went to the far, dark end of the yard and cryed all by himself. He came when I called but he was like a zombie, he was limp and seemed almost lifeless himself. As hard as it was to see my beautiful lab die in my arms, it was nowhere near as hard as it was on Graham. We were worried that Graham would die as well, he stopped eating almost entirly and he lost all his zest but after about 3 weeks he started eating more and showing some happiness. He lost 12 pounds when Beener died. His ribs began to stick out. And I have actually had someone argue with me as to whether or not dogs get sad! They don't believe that dogs become close and mourn if their companions die. Amazing the things a non animal lover will never know.

I know this post did not have anything to do with rawhide....sorry if it's out of topic, the last posts brought back memories of the horrible night that Beener died. I still cry, but not as much for Beener as for Graham. I did not mourn for Beener for very long at all because he gave me the most amazing send-off. I held him close to me when the vet gave the injection, and very shortly after he breathed his last breath, I felt his spirit circle very rapidly around me...it was playful and beautiful and peaceful and happy and bright...all those things I felt from him spinning around me. It actually made me smile. He spun around me for maybe a minute or so. I was the only one in the room, other then the vet, no one else could stand to see him die, and I was the only one who got the "grand send-off". It was just like Beener to do that, too. He just let me know that he was happy. I wish my family members, especially my mom and Graham, could have felt what I felt.

[lhg0962]

Oh, AdoreMyDogs, what a horrible experience for you!!! Your story reminded me of the old Disney movie, "Where the Red Fern Grows". Do you remember it? I only saw it once as a child and still remember that one dog lying on the grave of the other one.
I haven't experienced it with a pet, I only know how my daughter and I grieved when our Cocker Spaniel, Kaycee, had to be put to sleep. Honey was too little to realize what was going on. She got so much love from us, she was thrilled.
Glad to hear things are better now.

[LilyMarlene]

I hope Graham is doing better, I also know that dogs grieve I have read some of the saddest & happier things on here and am very glad to know how I feel about losing my dog
is shared by some people even my husband doesn't really understand course I was the one to feed him, baby him and get him to behave I would spend hours out in the yard with him so when this happened I pannicked had I been thinking I would have seen what was wrong sometimes I still feel like I let him down I recently got a puppy I love her dearly but I still stop and say a prayer in hopes where ever my nook,nook is he knows I still think about,miss and love him

[teena]

We had to put our terrier mix to sleep in August. She was 14 and had doggie Alzheimers. Max and Annie grieved horribly, and to this day, still look for her in the house.

[AdoreMyDogs]

Hi Igh0962,

I have never seen "Where The Red Fern Grows"
but if it has a scene like the one I went through (the sleeping on the grave site) I don't think I could ever see it Too heartbreaking for me!

Graham is all better now. It's been a year almost to this day since Beener died. He's all healed, except that he's different with other dogs now. He used to love other dogs alot, but he's got this dominance issue with other male dogs and dom. female dogs that he never used to have. He likes the Pug that we adopted but he will still not play with her, even though she has tried to get him to play MANY times. Don't know what's going on there. I sure hope Graham lightens up and starts playing with the pug soon, she sure would like that and so would I. They will sleep close to each other, and I have seen her lick Graham and Graham lick her but they still don't play. Any ideas? We have had the pug for close to 2 months now.

[Sudilar]

AdoreMydogs,
I read your story last night and I was so upset by it I couldn't comment on it. That was the saddest thing I've ever heard. I felt so bad for Graham. I guess why I felt so bad was because I have a 7yr. old and a 3yr. old GSD who love each other. I can't even take one to the vet without the other being very upset! I can't imagine what will happen when one dies!! I'm glad Graham is better now. Could it be that he is afraid to get too involved with the Pug being that she might be taken away from him, too? Can dogs think like that??? Such a sad, sad story.
Su

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[AdoreMyDogs]

Hi Su,

It seems that Graham could have that going through his head...I am not sure if dogs think that way. It also may be that Graham does not even know if the pug is really a dog! She's small and makes all sorts of snorty noises...maybe he is not even sure if she's canine. I am not sure, he LOVES cats, but he just likes to hang out with them and cuddle them, he never plays with them...maybe he thinks the pug is a cat. I am not sure. Maybe it's his way of telling me that he does not want the pug around...not sure. He does not seem to dislike the pug (anymore, he hated her being around the first week, he was so jealous)but I am not real sure. At least he's not showing strong dominance or agression towards her. I guess they may just have a "play-free" relationship.

[karen israel]

ok, I just read Adore's story, I'm playing catch-up with Pet Talk. If I spell incorrectly, plz excuse me, the tears are obstructing by vision. There is nobody, no way, now how going to tell me that dogs don't feel emotions like humans do. They may not be able to articulate but I felt worse for Graham than anything..no offense intended, Adore. God Bless you for your wonderful attitude during that sad time. You, my friend, are a far better person than me, Although I dread even thinking about it, I can predict that, although I know there's Rainbow Bridge etc and Cody's spirit will always be with me, blah, blah, blah, I will a human Graham 10 times over. On a lighter note, Cody honestly, is pretified of our little pug neighbor. It's embarassing. The pug wants to smell, he once nipped Cody's heel and big goon ran like the dickens! I think he thinks little Denver is a toy, that makes funny noises. it's too funny! LILYMARLENE! Glad you got a new puppy...what kind????? Name????

[Giglez]

Oh I agree!! Dogs do, indeed, mourn. They mourn as humans do, and they have emotions as humans do...they may not express them as we do, but that is because they are dogs, and not humans...though most of them (and us! ) wish they WERE humans

LilyMarlene, nook nook knows that you love him, and miss him, and he knows you tried what you could, and that you care deeply for him.

[KYS]

LilyMarlene:
I recently got a puppy I love her dearly but I still stop and say a prayer in hopes where ever my nook,nook is he knows I still think about,miss and love him>>>>

LilyMarlene and all,
I truely believe that dogs will be with us again in heaven. Even my husband tells me, that when his time comes, he wants all his past dogs to greet him at the pearly gates.

[karen israel]

Probably the only reason I'm not afraid. Dog Fancy magazine a few issues back had an article if Dogs go to Heaven. They interviewd almost every denomination you can think of..very insightful, interresting, touching how people think. Altho explained in different ways, bottom line was "yes", but we all already knew that.

[LilyMarlene]

Thanks sorry I would have replied sooner but I just realized there is a second page I got a female from a guy in Ind she was supposed to be a white wolf shepperd mix but she is just a little white on her under belly then tan with two black spots on her tail I still love the little stinker dearly though she has definitly livened the place up the male cat seems to be really jealous of her even scratched her right in the eye so we have been going to the vet and putting eye drops in four times a day I am trying to get my freind to take the cat he is getting to old
and really doesn't like puppy's which really
gets me he used to play with my cousins dog they played and slept together maybe cause it would evenually leave where the puppy doesn't my mom wants me to name her Puppy Girl as she put it like my grandmother did with her dog I was leaning toward Foxy because if you ever saw a fox they are about the same color during the winter as she is it is almost cream color.