New AKC groups...

[Shelteez2]

AKC Group Realignment Committee - Proposed Breeds &Groups
(7/31/08 )
From a presentation to the Delegates on September 8, 2008 by the AKC Group
Realignment Committee
Group 1: Sporting - Pointers and Setters (11) (12)
Brittany
Pointer
Pointer (German Shorthaired)
Pointer (German Wirehaired)
Setter (English)
Setter (Gordon)
Setter (Irish
Setter (Irish Red &White) Miscellaneous 6/27/07; Full Recognition 1/1/09
Spinone Italiano
Vizsla
Weimaraner
Wirehaired Pointing Griffon

Group 2: Sporting - Retrievers and Spaniels (17) (18 )
Retriever (Chesapeake Bay)
Retriever (Curly-Coated)
Retriever (Flat-Coated)
Retriever (Golden)
Retriever (Labrador)
Retriever (Nova Scotia Duck Tolling)
Spaniel (American Water)
Spaniel (Boykin) - Miscellaneous 1/1/08
Spaniel (Clumber)
Spaniel (Cocker) ASCOB
Spaniel (Cocker) Black
Spaniel (Cocker) Parti-color
Spaniel (English Cocker)
Spaniel (English Springer)
Spaniel (Field)
Spaniel (Irish Water)
Spaniel (Sussex)
Spaniel (Welsh Springer)

Group 3: Scent Hounds (14) (16)
Basset Hound
Beagle (13")
Beagle (15")
Black and Tan Coonhound
Bloodhound
Bluetick Coonhound - Miscellaneous 7/1/08
Dachshund (Longhaired)
Dachshund (Smooth)
Dachshund (Wirehaired)
English Foxhound
Foxhound (American)
Harrier
Otterhound
Petit Basset Griffon Vendeen
Plott
Redbone Coonhound - Miscellaneous 9/1/08

Group 4: Sight Hounds (11)
Afghan Hound
Basenji
Borzoi
Greyhound
Ibizan Hound
Irish Wolfhound
Italian Greyhound
Pharaoh Hound
Saluki
Scottish Deerhound
Whippet

Group 5: Working (23) (25)
Anatolian Shepherd
Bernese Mountain Dog
Black Russian Terrier
Boxer
Bullmastiff
Cane Corso - Miscellaneous 7/1/08
Dalmatian
Doberman Pinscher
Dogue de Bordeaux
German Pinscher
Giant Schnauzer
Great Dane
Great Pyrenees
Greater Swiss Mountain Dog
Komondor
Kuvasz
Leonberger - Miscellaneous 7/1/08
Mastiff
Neapolitan Mastiff
Newfoundland
Portuguese Water Dog
Rottweiler
Saint Bernard
Standard Schnauzer
Tibetan Mastiff

Group 6: Terriers (28 ) (29)
Airedale Terrier
Australian Terrier
American Staffordshire Terrier
Bedlington Terrier
Border Terrier
Bull Terrier (Colored)
Bull Terrier (White)
Cairn Terrier
Cesky Terrier - Miscellaneous 7/1/08
Dandie Dinmont Terrier
Fox Terrier (Smooth)
Fox Terrier (Wire)
Glen of Imaal Terrier
Irish Terrier
Kerry Blue Terrier
Lakeland Terrier
Manchester Terrier (Standard)
Miniature Bull Terrier
Miniature Schnauzer
Norfolk Terrier
Norwich Terrier
Person Russell Terrier
Scottish Terrier
Sealyham Terrier
Skye Terrier
Soft Coated Wheaten Terrier
Staffordshire Bull Terrier
Welsh Terrier
West Highland White Terrier

Group 7: Toys (21)
Affenpinscher
Brussells Griffon
Cavalier King Charles Spaniel
Chihuahua (Long Coat)
Chihuahua (Smooth Coat)
English Toy Spaniel (Blenheim &Prince Charles)
English Toy Spaniel (King Charles &Ruby)
Havanese
Japanese Chin
Maltese
Manchester Terrier (Toy)
Miniature Pinscher
Papillon
Pekingese
Pomeranian
Poodle (Toy)
Pug
Shih Tzu
Silky Terrier
Toy Fox Terrier
Yorkshire Terrier

Group 8: Companion (11)
Bichon Frise
Boston Terrier
Bulldog
Chinese Crested
French Bulldog
Lhasa Apso
Lowchen
Poodle (Miniature)
Poodle (Standard)
Tibetan Spaniel
Tibetan Terrier

Group 9: Herding (20) (21)
Australian Cattle Dog
Australian Shepherd
Bearded Collie
Beauceron
Belgian Malinois
Belgian Tervuren
Belgian Sheepdog
Border Collie
Bouvier des Flandres
Briard
Canaan Dog
Cardigan Welsh Corgi
Collie (Rough)
Collie (Smooth)
German Shepherd
Old English Sheepdog
Pembroke Welsh Corgi
Polish Lowland Sheepdog
Puli
Pyrenean Shepherd - Miscellaneous 1/1/07; Full Recognition 1/1/09
Shetland Sheepdog

Group 10: Northern (13) (16)
Akita
Alaskan Malamute
American Eskimo Dog
Chinese Shar-Pei
Chow Chow
Finnish Spitz
Icelandic Sheepdog - Miscellaneous 7/1/08
Keeshond
Norwegian Buhund - Miscellaneous 1/1/07; Full Recognition 1/1/09
Norwegian Lundehund - Miscellaneous 7/1/08
Norwegian Elkhound
Samoyed
Siberian Husky
Schipperke
Shiba Inu
Swedish Vallhund

[lute]

I don't like this at all! I know they are just trying to keep the groups from getting too big, but I don't agree with this!

For example... The Swedish Vallhund is a HERDING dog! They herd!

The Standard Poodle is NOT a companion! They are retrievers!

The Akita, Samoyed, Alaskan Malamute, Siberian Husky, etc all had jobs! They are working dogs! Yes, they come from the north, but they are WORKING dogs!

I really hope this doesn't pass!

[Ginger's Mom]

I agree with you, lute. I am not too fond of it either. I liked our division by function. And I really do not like the Group title of Northern breeds, although I must quite biasedly that I think they are the most beautiful dogs in the show they are not really related in form or function.

I am also surprised to see the number of breed clubs that have applied for admission to the AKC. For example, I love the Leonberger, and will love getting to see them when I go to shows, but I am surprised that the parent club would have wanted admission to the AKC.

[Suki Wingy]

Um, where does the Dalmatian fit in? They are essentially the everything dog, a jack of all trades.

Oh, never mind, I like how they are in working. I always thought the fact that they are in the non sporting group was still from 100 years ago where anything that wasn't it the sporting group was thrown into the non sporting, and they were never moved out.

[Shelteez2]

The person who posted this on another board said this about it

This is in stone now.....it has passed the AKC Board and is a done deal......according to the delegate it could go into effect as early as 6 months....just depends on how soon they get it set up. Lots has to be set up behind the scenes too I am sure. Such as computer programs, superintendents, etc.

I like how the shar pei is now a northern breed.... lol umm yeah...

I also agree that the swedish valhund belongs in the herding group. I dunno... will be weird getting used to it. Will also be weird for those who show in AKC and CKC, which as far as I know hasn't changed at all.

[lute]

It did already pass?!?! I heard about this about 4 months ago at a show. No one thought they would actually do it. AKC has really turned upside down.

[Twisterdog]

Illogical, as expected, IMO.

My two cents worth ....

I can see the logic intended behind dividing the sporting and hound groups. Not sure it was necessary, but at least it shows some logic.

The working group has always baffled me, and continues to do so. Working at what, exactly? Guarding? What about the dalmatian? And a lot of the "working" dogs are actually herding dogs.

And the toy and companion groups ... oh wow. Makes NO sense. A Cavalier King Charles Spaniel is a toy ... but a Bichon Frise or a French Bulldog is not? What? Why not just call them all companion dogs?

And why not call "Northern" group the "Spitz" group? Asian breeds are not "northern" ... but are spitz descendants, generally. But the shar pei??? I can see a team of shar pei running the Idiarod, eh? LMAO.

[Husky_mom]

here we have 10 groups...

grupo 1: Perros de Pastor y Perros Boyeros (excepto Perros Boyeros Suizos)
grupo 2: Perros Tipo Pinscher y Schnauzer - Molosoides y Perros Tipo Montaña y
Boyeros Suizos
grupo 3: Terriers
grupo 4: Teckels
grupo 5: Perros Tipo Spitz y Tipo Primitivo
grupo 6: Perros Tipo Sabueso, Perros de Rastro y Razas Semajantes
grupo 7: Perros de Muestra
grupo 8: Perros Cobradores de Caza, Perros Levantadores de Caza y Perros de Agua
grupo 9: Perros de Compañía
grupo 10: Lebreles


so I already found it confusing.. and now... again......

[lute]

Where does the Xolo fit into this? They will be recognized next year. What group will they be in? Companion?!?!

I just hate the fact that AKC is dividing groups by looks instead of what they were bred to do. I agree, the only plus to this is the Dal being placed in the working group. They were pretty much working dog.

Another thing I want to know. What about rankings? Will the dog that is # 1 in it's group STILL be #1 if it is moved to another group??? Getting to that ranking is hard enough and takes a great amount of time, patients, and money. What if the new group has dogs with many more points? Will this dog have to go out and special more to try and get that spot back?