"Pet Angel Fund for Spaying Gizzy et al"

[Roxyluvsme13]

Have you never forged your mom's siggy?! LOL!

I was queen of that one in high school. Academic failure notices? If i couldn't do it good enough we paid the one girl at roller skating to do it for us for $2.00

To me, you do what you gotta do to get it done. If mom doesn't ask what was required, then just sign the form for her and let it go at that. Not the best way to go, but if it came to that, I'd do it so it could get done.

lmao.

I forged it once in Kindergarten . I did a pretty decent job too. My teacher didn't notice.

I'll get her to sign the form somehow. If we go in the option of that clinic.

[Ginger's Mom]

Have you never forged your mom's siggy?! LOL!

I was queen of that one in high school. Academic failure notices? If i couldn't do it good enough we paid the one girl at roller skating to do it for us for $2.00

To me, you do what you gotta do to get it done. If mom doesn't ask what was required, then just sign the form for her and let it go at that. Not the best way to go, but if it came to that, I'd do it so it could get done.

Wow, I cannot believe you just gave that advise to a 14 year old.

[Grace]

Wow, I cannot believe you just gave that advise to a 14 year old.

Neither can I. Talk about contributing to the delinquency . . . . . . .

[Pawsitive Thinking]

I don't think being called rude is helpful, but okay then.

I give up

[Miss Z]

I've avoided this thread as much as possible, but seeing as everyone else has weighed in with their preaching and proclaiming, I thought I might as well say what's on my mind.

Briana is my friend, and I will stand by her decisions and her actions. Her situation isn't perfect, no. Her mum is far from perfect. Maybe even her attitude is far from perfect, but she's the teenager here. Not that it makes it alright to kick up a stir, but many of you here are sensible adults and know better than to toss the emotions of someone not yet entirely self sufficient. You know, I've tallied up the amount of these from either side of the arguement, and well, take an educated guess which 'side' scored higher.

For those still perhaps unsure, it wasn't Bri.

Yes maybe this girl needs telling what to do and what not to, but there's a way of getting your point across fairly. She's had history on these boards, yes, and do you know how close she's been to leaving PT every time? I'm sorry to be frank, but a lot of you people don't know the half of it. I myself don't know all of it, but from what I do know I can conclude that I can picture myself in a similar situation, taking similar action.

Bri, I know you have had this hammered into your skull over and over by less compassionate methods, but you know that those who are helping you here are doing the best they can purely out of the good of their hearts. If they say jump, you say how high, OK? I know you can put all your effort into this, and I think the cafe press is a great idea.

I am sorry that I can offer nothing but well wishes for you and Gizzie, I wish I could help in some other way.

This is starting to make me mad. You whine about everything. You are just ungratful to the people who set up this fund, donated money to this fund, AND set up an appointment just because you are so lazy that you wont get up at 10:00 to make a phone call. You just make me sick.

P.S. This is for Roxyluvesme13 only.

And as for you.

You are a hypocrite and have one heck of a big nerve. I've yet to see you try and do anything for your pets unless PT gets on your back. Bri's using her initiative and has addressed the problem, perhaps not according to everyone's standards, but at least she's doing something. If I was you I'd have never weighed in and pointed the finger in a topic such as this.

[catnapper]

I got tired of reading this saga at page 14. Of understand BOTH sides of the debate (amazing, huh? )

First, let me shed some light on mom's feelings, since I was there last year. She is most likely feeling that they are constantly having their electricity cut off and rent late and no food on the table.... yet her daughter is harassing her about vet care. I myself would explode on my kids too if they were asking for money I just didn't have, even if they needed the money for a valid reason! There are priorities she has a mother, first being provide basic needs of shelter and food. It sounds like mom is having a very hard time of providing those basics right now. I am certainly not condemning because I was there! I've been employed for 6 months now and only now catching up with bills - and thats only basic bills (with a few Pouncer emergencies tossed in ) I know exactly how overwhelmed mom is feeling. I also think its quite possible that this donation thing is insulting her and making her feel like she's a total failure because her daughter is now accepting donations from complete strangers. Think about it: her attitude towards this has been bad. It could be because she's hurt and ashamed that people are doing something for her daughter that she cannot do herself.

Oh, and speaking of Pouncer.... if he got sick BEFORE I got a job? I don't want to think of what might have happened. Truthfully, I'd have gotten the rescue to take him back and pay for him. I'm sure they'd give him back to me and them I'd repay them $10 at a time for a looong time. But Bri obviously doesn't have that luxury.


I would write more on my wonderful opinions but I have to go to the hospital for blood tests (ugh)

[Pawsitive Thinking]

Miss Z -as much as I applaud and admire the defence of your friend we are not mind readers so we can only respond and react to how we are treated on the board ourselves. It isn't all one sided you know.

Granted we may have been too "forceful" with some advice and opinions and there are some who are here simply to stir things up, but the majority of the posts are out of genuine concern for Bri and her situation.

How is Gizzy, by the way. She seems to have been forgotten in all this

[jennielynn1970]

Neither can I. Talk about contributing to the delinquency . . . . . . .

Ok, sometimes you really need to read into sarcasm. That's the problem with a forum where you write things.. you never know whether things are being said tongue in cheek.

Basically we want her to get the form signed. If mom has to drive her there, I'm sure seeing the form and a signature that isn't hers would be a tip off about things, so it's not like it's something doable.

Maybe you also need to get off your high horses unless you're perfect and have never done anything like that... we're talking high school/middle school stuff. Gimme a break. I'm telling her to go get an abortion, which would be contributing to delinquency.

[Ginger's Mom]

Ok, sometimes you really need to read into sarcasm. That's the problem with a forum where you write things.. you never know whether things are being said tongue in cheek.

Please re-read the last line of your post that I quoted above. That was not sarcasm or tongue in cheek. That was advising a teenage girl to do whatever she needs to do to get her way (or in this case your way). I would not go so far as to say you are contributing to the delinquency of a minor, but you are certainly contributing to the tension, uncertainty, and lack of funds to pay the bills in the house. I am not sure why it is so important to you ladies that the animals stay in a home where they are making life difficult for the people, and where the animals well-being is neglected. At this point you really aren't helping anyone.

[Cataholic]

Better than Tivo!

Yeah, but, ONLY if you like re-runs. This isn't even last season's news. This is like watching THREE seasons ago news.

[Catty1]

Gizzy. Gizzy. Gizzy. The Animals. Please, Folks.

Let's get the pets helped, please, and get them to a clinic.

Bri's mom - those of us who are helping are doing it from our hearts. If you are feeling bad, please don't. We help one another here all the time, because we do care.

I had hard times for a long time...and then one day, I was able to pay it forward, which I am doing now.

Take care.

[JenBKR]

I didn't think of this before, but this link may be helpful. It's low cost vax that travel to Petcos. They have helped me when money got tight and it was vet time.

[popcornbird]

I am just shocked, and left speechless by this whole thread. To be honest, this whole thing is beyond my understanding. I cannot understand Bri's attitude, but more than anything, I am shocked at the advice some of the PT'ers are giving her.

"Leave your mother"

"Forge a signature for your mother"

Something must be seriously WRONG with some of you people.
A mother, who carried her child in her womb for 9 months, fed her from her own body when she was a baby, raised her, cared for her, fed her, her entire LIFE, has FAR MORE rights over her CHILD, than anyone else on the planet. How could you possibly tell a daughter to leave her MOTHER over a PET?!?! My gosh! Now I bet some of you would gladly choose a pet over a family member, but unless a family is abusive, I cannot imagine taking such a path. She is her MOTHER! Can any of the mothers here with young children IMAGINE that 10 years from now, perhaps there will be people out there advising your child to leave you. Sheesh. Every child has conflicts with his/her parents sometimes. If they go and tell others, that means those other 'elders' should advise them to leave their parents? Just imagine... I KNOW the mothers here would have a hard time even thinking about someone adivising their kid with such nonsense.

And to THINK Bri's mother would want money from people like that? I know for a fact that if I were in her mother's shoes, I would be furious about her asking for money from strangers off the internet. There are so many unseen dangers on the net, and teens often don't see them. I know that PT, in general, is a rather safe site, but parents have their very valid concerns.

As to forging a signature, that is encouraging a teenager to lie, cheat, and giving her the 'message' that breaking the law like that is okay.

Sad, very sad. I wasn't going to comment here, but after reading that statement, I just couldn't take it anymore. I don't understand why some people on PT NEED to interfere with her life SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much. She's 14 years old. Sometimes young people tend to make decisions without thinking, or can't understand WHY their parents make certain rules. That doesn't mean WE, strangers on the internet, need to do these things without talking to her MOTHER. She's a minor, not an adult, and her mom is responsible for her, AND, she has her own life in Tennessee, with her own pets, her own family. If I have a kid someday who goes online to ask for money during times of financial difficulty, you can be sure that not only would that kid NOT get that help, but that kid would have all internet rights taken from him/her. Why? If the child can't respect ME enough for raising him/her by asking me if this was okay to do first, then the child WOULD have to face consequences.

If Bri's mom is having financial difficulties, and her pets are healthy and not sick, her first priorities would be to pay rent, get food on the table, feed her kid, feed the animals, pay the bills. No one wants to accept money from strangers unless they're in a situation where they cannot even afford to have food on their table.

I just can't stand it when people turn kids away from their parents, rather than try to get them to understand them, and explain to them that no one is perfect, and no one's parents are perfect either, but they should respect their parents for all they have done for them.

Remember, there are people in this world who have no shelter. There are children in this world who's parents cannot afford medical care. There are people out there with serious illnesses, and no one to treat them. There are animals out there that roam the streets with no food or water to nourish themselves.

If you look at how a GREAT DEAL of poor people AND animals live in this world, you'd consider Bri and her pets fortunate. Life is not a bed of roses. There are thorns too...
...AND there WILL be thorns, in EVERYONE's life. You just gotta learn to deal with them in the right way.

[sandragonfly]

my. how about some humors since this is already out of hands? heard of "LOL"?? good lord, I never took that seriously, and as far as my concern was, neither did briana too.

also, what IF she is/was being abused? and along all they have is each other? that, none of site or my business of course but something to think about too.

this is pet talk - back to gizzy, pets, animals, creatures, beseech you people!

[shais_mom]

If Bri's mom is having financial difficulties, and her pets are healthy and not sick, her first priorities would be to pay rent, get food on the table, feed her kid, feed the animals, pay the bills. No one wants to accept money from strangers unless they're in a situation where they cannot even afford to have food on their table.

Pops- I couldn't in my lifetime see your child doing this b/c your child wouldn't be left to raise herself like it seems Brianna has been left to do which is indeed very very sad.