can goldfish and betta's....

[Flatcoatluver]

My mom is tired of me having so much tanks in my room so she wanted me to ask you guys this.
We just got a 10 gallon tank and I have 2 fantail goldfish in it, my mom wants to know if we put a betta in there if they will get along?

[Jessika]

They should be fine so long as your goldfish won't be mistaken as another male betta by your betta. Otherwise goldfish and bettas make excellent tankmates.

[Flatcoatluver]

there willy and orca in my siggy,they look nothing like a betta do they??

[catnapper]

not really. How big are your goldfish? You need two gallons of water per inch of goldfish. If they are small, like only an inch long, then you have room. but remember goldfish will grow up to 10" -- you'lll need to get a new tank by the time they are 5" long.

Don't forget to take into account the space your gravel and pants take up.

[Jessika]

there willy and orca in my siggy,they look nothing like a betta do they??

Well if they have long fins, that MIGHT cause problems. But as far as coloration goes, no the betta will not mistake them as another male betta.

Some fish though like neon tetras don't do well though with bettas because they think they are other bettas and will attack them

[Flatcoatluver]

this is the tank and how it looks right now

Yeah I new they could get up to 10 inches and they need 2 gallons each and so I think there would be enogh room

[Vela]

They should get along fine but catnapper is right about needing extra tank space later. Also, make sure your betta gets enough to eat, goldfish are hogs! Sometimes they gobbled things up faster than my betta could get to the food because he was always looking and stalking the food before he'd strike so I set up a little plastic "cage" part I could block off with a removable side to help make sure he ate enough. But if you see that he is being able to get to the food fast enough before they eat it all it should be fine.

[Flatcoatluver]

umm here is a full picture of them, without it croped off
this was in there old tank, too small for both of them

[Flatcoatluver]

ok I am trying to think of my betta's personality,
Jedi is a slow easy going guy, who takes his time and doesn't go to food very fast

rudy flares at everything and eats really fast
would rudy be a problem with them?

[My Peanuts]

They should be perfectly fine. I'd introduce them when you are going to be home and keep and eye on them, but I've never heard of it being a problem. (I have large African Cichlids where this is a big problem )

Ok, goldfish enthusiasts will tell you that a 10 gallon tank is too small for that many fish. They have told me that 1 goldfish for every 10 gallons. Meaning 2 goldfish 20 gallon tank.

That being said, I think that 2 gold fish and a betta in a 10 gallon tank is perfectly fine. I had 1 gold fish in a 5 gallon tank and when these people told me it was wrong I got a bigger tank and he died. Stick to what is working for you. I wouldn't add anymore though. Also if it's an un-cycled tank do 20% water changes for a while to lower the ammonia level until the "good" bacteria has a chance to grow. Even a cycled tank needs frequent water changes when new fish are added.

If you have any other questions you can ask me. In the past few years I’ve become a fish enthusiast myself.

[Flatcoatluver]

They should be perfectly fine. I'd introduce them when you are going to be home and keep and eye on them, but I've never heard of it being a problem. (I have large African Cichlids where this is a big problem )

Ok, goldfish enthusiasts will tell you that a 10 gallon tank is too small for that many fish. They have told me that 1 goldfish for every 10 gallons. Meaning 2 goldfish 20 gallon tank.

That being said, I think that 2 gold fish and a betta in a 10 gallon tank is perfectly fine. I had 1 gold fish in a 5 gallon tank and when these people told me it was wrong I got a bigger tank and he died. Stick to what is working for you. I wouldn't add anymore though. Also if it's an un-cycled tank do 20% water changes for a while to lower the ammonia level until the "good" bacteria has a chance to grow. Even a cycled tank needs frequent water changes when new fish are added.

If you have any other questions you can ask me. In the past few years I’ve become a fish enthusiast myself.

thank you so much!!! I have this whole week off, so I think I will try but which betta should I put in there?
ok I am trying to think of my betta's personality,
Jedi is a slow easy going guy, who takes his time and doesn't go to food very fast

rudy flares at everything and eats really fast
would rudy be a problem with them?

[Jessika]

If Rudy is quick to flare then I would probably not stick him in with the goldfish, just to be safe.

BUT you never know. You can put him in there and WATCH him just to see. Who knows?

And that's odd, one goldfish per two gallons? I've always heard that goldfish can live in closer quarters with one another than other fish can

[My Peanuts]

thank you so much!!! I have this whole week off, so I think I will try but which betta should I put in there?
ok I am trying to think of my betta's personality,
Jedi is a slow easy going guy, who takes his time and doesn't go to food very fast

rudy flares at everything and eats really fast
would rudy be a problem with them?

I've never had goldfish and bettas together personally, but I have heard they are fine and seen it with my own eyes. I would try both and watch them, like I said. Be prepared with a tank or a bowl in case someone started getting nippy.

Right now I'm trying to introduce a "highly aggressive" large cichlid in with my already aggressive cichlids. The guy I get my fish from said it possible, but I'm doing the same thing you are. I'm going to do it in about a month (the new fish is being quarantined) but I prepared with the other tank because I doubt it will work. I do think your bettas will work though.

Fish are all different. Inside those tiny brains are so many different moods. I'd try it and watch them.

[Flatcoatluver]

Thanks everybody!! I have learned so much from this thread!!!

[My Peanuts]

Also, The two fish I have living together right now and for the past 3 years are techincally supposed to be killing each other. Just thought I'd let you know that.