Freedom of Speech

[dukedogsmom]

A certain thread that was started yesterday was deleted. I guess that was because it didn't conform to the majority of the views of other pt people. However, this is the Dog House and I thought that's why this area was created. I'm not meaning to stir up trouble, just wanted to voice my opinion on the fact. Here is the first paragraph of the introduction of the Dog House:
We have created a new forum for any post that is in some way controversial, upsetting, or just makes us go eeeew! In it are threads about the war, debates and arguments about religion, patriotism and politics, and the recipe for "poop cake."
So, I guess it's alright as long as it's every one else's opinion?

[ILoveReptiles]

I agree with you. I was confused as to why the thread was removed.

[catland]

I am not familiar with the thread in question but from my past experience here a couple of things could have happened here.

1. The owner of the thread could have deleted it. All of us have the right to delete threads that we start - we don't even need a reason.

2. Something about the thread crossed the line of taste and decorum and the powers that be made the choice to delete the thread. It's their web site, they pay for it, and they have every right to do so. It is their virtual "home" so to speak, and its up to the rest of us to respect that.

I'm sure that if you PM Karen or Paul, they can let you know what happened.

[Logan]

I'm assuming that the one who originated the thread deleted it, as there was nothing that I saw that was controversial enough for management to delete it. I would like to see an explanation as well, though. Hopefully the one who deleted it will explain, shortly.

[Kfamr]

I agree Val.

No matter how the thread was deleted.. If i'm thinking of the same post as you, it was pretty rude how some replied to it.

[Logan]

What I saw, and replied to, KayAnn, wasn't "rude", it was their opinion. Isn't there a difference? I am one who doesn't like to respond in the Dog House, often, because my opinion differs from others, quite often. But if I do respond, I try to do it with respect for other's opinions. Healthy respect and differing opinions is what the "Dog House" was created for in the first place, I think, unless I have completely misunderstood the whole intention. That's why I was so dismayed to see the post about the "Curves" guy go away. I hope the originator of the thread will let us know why he/she took it away.

Logan

[Kfamr]

I found some of it as rude, and that's my opinion. I don't even have an opinion on the original subject or that post, but I still found how some people chose to reply as very rude. But, it didn't really surprise me from these users, because generally I've seen them reply that way before. I will not point out names though.

[Karen]

I did not delete that thread. If Paul or I deletes a particular thread, we send a PM or email to everyone who had posted in it.

It is always the option of anyone who creates a thread to delete it. Only that person and moderators have that choice.

I am familiar with the thread in question. It had turned into a different discussion than it started out to be.

Let us remember that everyone at Pet Talk is special, even in the Dog House.

[sirrahved]

Hmmm, I hadn't even noticed it was gone. Now that you mentioned it I realize which one you were talking about.

You have the right to start it again, I suppose, but it kind of seemed like we were beating a dead horse.

[sirrahved]

Originally posted by Karen
I am familiar with the thread in question. It had turned into a different discussion than it started out to be.

IMHO, that thread was started to be snide about people with opposing views...

[Cataholic]

I recognize someone's 'right' to delete a thread (as much as I don't like it) but...isn't is ironic that someone would delete a thread that started out as an adult exercising his "right" to spend his money how ever he sees fit? It is like, "how DARE he use MY money to further HIS ends". Then, to delete the thread? It kind of supports a theory like, "well, if you aren't doing or saying exactly what I want you to do or say, then Bye Bye".
Maybe it isn't irony. But, it is something. I am reserving my right to rename it later.

If you want to exercise your right, you have to let others exercise their right. (funny...curves, exercising rights..he he he).

[sirrahved]

lol you crack me up, Cataholic!

For some reason when I see C-A-T-A-H-O-L-I-C my mind saysC-A-T-H-O-L-I-C! Okay, so I've digressed...

[popcornbird]

I did read that thread, and was going to respond.........but it was gone before I got the chance. I read everyone's posts there last night, and I didn't find anything rude in there. Is it so wrong to post one's opinions? Funny how certain peoples' opinions are opinions, and the opinions of others are *rude* if they don't agree with you. Funny.

LOL Johanna! I agree with you, 100%.

[Kfamr]

Originally posted by popcornbird
I read everyone's posts there last night, and I didn't find anything rude in there. Is it so wrong to post one's opinions? Funny how certain peoples' opinions are opinions, and the opinions of others are *rude* if they don't agree with you. Funny.

I never said it was wrong to post one's opinion. As I said, I have no opinion on the original subject, it's just how some of the posters went about posting. I didn't agree or disagree on either side, I did disagree on how some went about expressing them though. I found it as rude, and it wasn't even on the subject, it's just how they went about saying it.

Very funny.

[Logan]

I thought as much, Karen, as to why you would lock/delete a thread.

This was actually a healthy discussion, even if it did offer differing opinons on abortion and on the actions of the guy who started "Curves". I still commend him for putting his money into efforts that he feels are worthwhile. I would still stand by him, even if my opinons are different from his (which they are not, and why I posted what I did earlier, before the thread was deleted).