Ms. Pelosi, Meet A,B,C,D,E,F,G and H!

[RICHARD]

My state senator, the esteemed Nancy Pelosi, and Speaker of the House -commented about contraception and how it would effect the economy if 'unwanted' babies were never to be concieved.

Apparently my Senator thinks that if these children were not born, money could be saved -No medical care, school, food and other essentials!

What a wonderful idea, Maybe she can 'head them off at the pass' and promote abortion too?


Ms Speaker? I would ask you to recognize the woman who delivered the 8 babies, AT ONE TIME NO LESS, at the Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Facility yesterday!

I am sure you can draft up some kind of bill or legislation honoring this feat and the woman who pulled it off! (I am counting on you to do the flip flop kind of thing that all politicians do all the time!)

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These are the kind of stories that happen all the time, time being the key word. Politicians make really dumb statements, then have something like this happen in THEIR back yards.


Unless these parents have megabucks, these kids will become a sideshow media circus- Jon and Kate? YOUR 15 MINUTES ARE DONE!

Companies will fall all over themselves to court, promote and make these poor kids a media circus. They will get a bus, 4 washers and dryers, Pampers until mom potty trains the lot of them.

The docs will walk the halls of the hospital basking in their 15 minutes until some one pulls 9 outta the hat!

Incredible!

[kuhio98]

I couldn't believe my ears when I saw Ms. Pelosi's interview. Yes, we all know that the more children you have, the more costly it is.

What's next? A one child policy like China?

[RICHARD]

I couldn't believe my ears when I saw Ms. Pelosi's interview. Yes, we all know that the more children you have, the more costly it is.

What's next? A one child policy like China?

She has no concept of life or being able to afford kids-remember, she asked for a bigger airplane to fly her family back and forth from Cah lee fuh nee ah to D.C..

I do not advocate any kind of fertility drugs or having more that four kids at one time. I have a problem with people wanting a 'litter' and putting the babies thru extended periods of hospitilization. Some parents go for the multiples, then should one of more dies, they have this giant pity party and we are supposed to feel badly for them- The forced the issue and it's really sad that thise kids have to die over a parents stupidity.

I am only talking about 6 or more births at once and have already have discussed the parents who do the one or two in-vitro pregnancy. This gal obviously did the fertility thing and I feel that that's just wrong.

[Catty1]

I think the "multiples" do result from fertility drugs, but the parents don't plan for huge multiple births!

I suspect these news stories are news because they are such large numbers.

Most parents likely have the one or two they wanted, or sadly - none at all, in spite of the expense and efforts.

[RICHARD]

The parents are the the nutcases that will do anything for kids.
The woman gets pregnant, puts the kids and herself into danger by going on with the births, Should one or two not survive, they chalk it up to divine intervention, should all survive they chalk it up to divine intervention and never look back.

The last two days there was the story of the quints that were born 13 years ago and the parents who's kids were killed in an auto accident, then decided to 'replace' them with a set of triplets.


What a freak show.

[Catty1]

Those 'nutcases' are driven by a primal desire to have children that is beyond what I can understand; it's what is at the root of a species to preserve itself.

Along with love, hope, despair and even love.

Not a place to expect cold logic and rational thinking. It may come from the doctors - but will not be heeded by the parents. It may be their only chance to have kids.

[rosethecopycat]

My state senator, the esteemed Nancy Pelosi, and Speaker of the House -commented about contraception and how it would effect the economy if 'unwanted' babies were never to be concieved.

Apparently my Senator thinks that if these children were not born, money could be saved -No medical care, school, food and other essentials!

What a wonderful idea, Maybe she can 'head them off at the pass' and promote abortion too?


Ms Speaker? I would ask you to recognize the woman who delivered the 8 babies, AT ONE TIME NO LESS, at the Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Facility yesterday!

I am sure you can draft up some kind of bill or legislation honoring this feat and the woman who pulled it off! (I am counting on you to do the flip flop kind of thing that all politicians do all the time!)

--------------------------

These are the kind of stories that happen all the time, time being the key word. Politicians make really dumb statements, then have something like this happen in THEIR back yards.


Unless these parents have megabucks, these kids will become a sideshow media circus- Jon and Kate? YOUR 15 MINUTES ARE DONE!

Companies will fall all over themselves to court, promote and make these poor kids a media circus. They will get a bus, 4 washers and dryers, Pampers until mom potty trains the lot of them.

The docs will walk the halls of the hospital basking in their 15 minutes until some one pulls 9 outta the hat!

Incredible!

She can have another 8 in nine months, correct?

[RICHARD]

She can have another 8 in nine months, correct?

LOL,

With six you get eggrolls.

Yes she can. And it's possible that she would- There was an interesting story about what the docs can suggest in this instance. The diff with invitro and fertility drugs is that with In vitro the doc will implant fetilized eggs. With drugs the ovaries are stimulated to release eggs.


Again, I was working on the same floor as the NICU and seeing preemies struggle to live, it's a real shame that people place children in such dire circumstances.

[phesina]

I heard on the news today that she is a single mother and already has something like 5 or 6 other kids. ..?

[Hellow]

I can understand people /adopting/ or /fostering/ that many kids - not giving birth to that many yourself.

[RICHARD]

She had 6 kids, two are twins.


I just cannot believe it.

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Rose,
If she has more kids she belongs in a museum.

[Cataholic]

I think it is very easy, in the warm comfort of our own homes, to second guess this woman. There are so many things that go into this, and as Catty said, that primale (sic) urge to bear children (that not everyone might have) is strong. I would imagine, but, do not know, that her plan wasn't to have 8 infants. But, once one conceives, how does one bear the thought of determining just who shall live? I couldn't do it.

The nature of the fertility drug/assistance path is so expensive. Implanting two eggs, finding a level of hormone that would only encourage an extra egg or two, isn't as easy as it seems. With the expense of the procedure, many DO opt to over do it, in order to secure one 'for sure' fetus, while minimizing expense.

There are many in our country that receive government assistance of some kind. There are people that routinely go on unemployment cause the nature of their job is seasonal. There are people that go on disibility, WC, that get assistance..that is thier 'right'. The big corporate sponsors that want to donate? Who cares, that is private money.

As to Jon and Kate, plus 8, while I think she could do with some serious counseling for passive/aggressive behaviour, OCD and general manners, they seem to support themselves without public assistance.

[lvpets2002]

Richard at least Jon & Kate only have eight kids.. You forgot about the Dugger Family that just had their 18th child.. Its horibble how the media supports these familys.. You do know that this women that just had the eight babies does not even know who or where the father is.. These fertlized eggs she had emplanted in her.. I just dont get it due to she had 6 kids at home already.. I guess its how bad do you want to be in the media..

She had 6 kids, two are twins.


I just cannot believe it.

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Rose,
If she has more kids she belongs in a museum.

[Catty1]

Like Cataholic said, she refused embryo reduction (nice phrase, huh?). I would think normally that not all eight would survive, so letting 'Nature take its course' or 'God decide' was the plan.


http://www.monstersandcritics.com/ne...ion__Roundup__

US octuplet mum already had six - refused embryo reduction (Roundup)
Health News

Jan 30, 2009, 14:48 GMT

Los Angeles - The mother of octuplets born Monday in California already had six children under the age of seven, but declined to abort some of the eight foetuses, her mother said in a Los Angeles Times interview Friday.

The mother has not been officially named. But grandmother Angela Suleman said the woman's refusal to undergo a so-called reduction was taken on moral grounds. 'What do you suggest she should have done? She refused to have them killed,' Suleman said. 'That is a very painful thing.'

Suleman acknowledged that raising 14 children would be difficult, especially since the father is due to return to Iraq shortly where he serves as a military contractor.

The mother, aged 33, was offered a selective abortion, Dr Harold Henry at Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Centre said. The woman had consulted the doctors in her 12th week of pregnancy.

News that the mother already had six young children before giving birth to the octuplets is likely to increase the controversy surrounding the use of fertility treatments, especially the implanting of multiple embryos which can lead to high risk pregnancies and health problems for the babies, who are usually born prematurely.

'When we see something like this in the general fertility world, it gives us the heebie-jeebies,' Michael Tucker, a clinical embryologist in Atlanta and a leading researcher in infertility treatment, told the newspaper. Tucker added that in his opinion, 'if a medical practitioner had anything to do with it, there's some degree of inappropriate medical therapy there.'

The six boys and two girls were delivered within five minutes of each other by Caesarean section Monday morning. The delivery surprised doctors who had been expecting 'only' seven babies.

Two of the newborns who had initially been put on ventilators, were now breathing on their own.

The mother is the second person ever to have delivered a set of living octuplets. The last octuplets known to have survived birth were born in Houston in 1998. One of the babies died one week later.

On Wednesday, the mother could see her babies for the first time in their incubators at the intensive care ward. According to People magazine, she was not allowed to hold her babies yet, but watched them sleeping.

The babies weighed in at between 880 grams and 1.47 kilograms each. All eight will spend about two months in an incubator, the hospital said, but the mother, who plans to breastfeed all her children, will be able to leave hospital in one week.

[Grace]

Her other children's ages are 7, 6, 5, 3 and 2 year old twins. I doubt there was ever any question of her not being able to have a child.

IMVHO this woman needed psychiatric care instead of embryo implantation.