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    Serial Cat Killler's hearing today...

    It was NOT a good day in court today. Judge Karen Sequino was on the bench. It was the last case heard before the break for lunch. The defense attorney entered into evidence independent studies that rat poisoning can cause diarrhea and bloody stools. When does rat poisoning cause blunt force trauma to the head.

    The judge goes on to reduce his bail from $10,000 to $5,000!!! That gives him a chance to get out and kill again. She ran through his entire rap sheet and because he was such a good boy and didn't FTA, it's no longer relevant.

    I cannot believe the prosecuting attorney sat there and did nothing. Maybe he's got something up his sleeves, I don't know. He hasn't spoken at length to Irene (owner of the dead cat), thye landlord or the downstairs neighbor who heard the thuds against the walls and the cat screaming.

    When she announced the reduction in bail, all of us walked out. One woman said, "He'll kill again!!!" I yelled, "Yeah, and it might be a good idea to lock your kids up too, cuz he's not going to stop and little animals."

    His next court date is October. I'll be there. I just hope this prosecuting attorney will be there and do his damn job.

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    I can't think of anything to say that in printable here.....

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    I agree, Laura. Even though this is the dog house, my thoughts on how the trial went can't be printed here. Furious.

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    It almost sounds like the prosecution is taking on a "it's no big deal" attitude the longer this issue drags out - and feels there are more important issues to deal with?? I'd hate to see what they do in October! Maybe a slip on the wrist and probation??? Didn't that jerk Baldwin have any mental evaluation like he was supposed to? Surely they must be able to see what a sick s.o.b. this individual is!!!

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    Here's the article that appeared in the New Haven Register:

    By Lauren Garrison, Register Staff

    ANSONIA — New questions were raised Monday when the 57-year-old Ansonia man charged with 10 counts of cruelty to animals appeared in court.

    Defendant Jay Baldwin’s attorney, public defender Jonathan Gable, shared with the court a new theory: The kitten Baldwin is accused of killing might have died from ingesting rat poison.

    Gable explained this theory as he requested that Judge Karen Nash Sequino remove his client’s $10,000 bail, in lieu of which Baldwin has been held since his arraignment Aug. 8. Sequino ultimately lowered Baldwin’s bail to $5,000, the amount she had originally set on the warrant for his arrest. According to the clerk’s office, Baldwin remained in jail Monday in lieu of $5,000 bail.

    Baldwin was arrested Aug. 8 following a police investigation that found one kitten died of head trauma while in his care, and several other cats were ill and malnourished. A search of Baldwin’s residence turned up nine cats and five birds. Baldwin had returned two kittens, including the one that died, to the woman from whom he had adopted them.

    All of the cats appeared neglected or abused, police said, with problems ranging from poor nutrition to trauma and parasites. Four eventually had to be euthanized.

    According to Gable, Dr. Jeffrey Schpero of Derby, the vet that examined the dead kitten, found it had suffered bleeding, but found no evidence of a skull fracture or broken bones. That, along with Baldwin’s continued insistence he didn’t kill the kitten, prompted Gable to consider whether an illness or toxin could have caused the bleeding.

    Gable said that when an animal eats rat poison, it can experience bleeding, bruising, hemorrhage or death. One common sign an animal has ingested rat poison is blood in the stool. Gable said Baldwin told police and the woman from whom he adopted the kitten that he saw blood in its stool a week before it died. Baldwin’s landlord had put down rat poison in his apartment after Baldwin complained of rodents, Gable said.

    The autopsy the University of Connecticut conducted on the kitten didn’t include a test that would have detected rat poison in the kitten’s system, Gable said.

    Gable said several experts he consulted said this test is commonly done in cases involving unexplained bleeding. He said UConn didn’t believe they were dealing with unexplained bleeding, because they were told the kitten had been beaten.

    The kitten has been cremated, and as far as Gable knows, there’s no way now to run such a test.

    Questions also exist pertaining to Baldwin’s mental capacity. According to Gable, Baldwin has an IQ of 68. As he lacks legal capacity to make decisions for himself, he has a conservator, an unnamed attorney.

    Gable said he didn’t know whether Baldwin could be tried as an adult. Gaetano declined to comment on the issue.

    Gable said he was troubled by animal rights protesters who have stood outside the courthouse before Baldwin’s last two appearances, holding signs and calling for harsh punishment for him and stricter laws on animal cruelty. As Baldwin left the courtroom Monday, one protester in the audience yelled out to the judge before rushing from of the building. Among other things, the protester said, “He’s going to kill again.”

    “It boggles the mind that people can show up here like the villagers from the Frankenstein movie and demand (Baldwin) be burned at the stake, because they have so much compassion for other living creatures,” Gable said.

    Lisa Gay, owner of H3 Pet Supply in Shelton and a member of the Trumbull Animal Group, was skeptical of Gable’s theory the kitten died from rat poison.

    “There was severe trauma to the head and neck.

    “You don’t get that from rat poison,” she said. In response to Gable’s assertion the kitten’s lack of broken bones proves it wasn’t beaten, Gay said that kittens’ bones aren’t hard enough to break.

    Baldwin is due back in court Oct. 2.



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    Irene is out for blood now. She is on her way to the court house to talk to the prosecutor to tell him that "Gable said Baldwin told police and the woman from whom he adopted the kitten that he saw blood in its stool a week before it died" that Balwin never EVER told her anything about the bloody stool. She said that everytime she called Baldwin, he said the kitten was fine and doing well. The day he killed the kitten, he told Irene, "I don't know, something must've just popped in it's brain."

    Irene is absolutely furious right now. She said she'll sit and wait for him all day if she has to.

    The guy can't read or write. He tried to get one of his girlfriends to sign the "landlord" portion of a food stamp appllication and she refused. She was dumped the very next day. This piece of
    $6it is very cunning and charming when he wants to be. In the court room he put on a great act.

    I called the lab at UConn that did the necropsy to find out if a test can be done on the cremains to determine any toxins. The woman there said it depended on the toxin. I told her rat poison. Unfortunately, rat poison, when ingested, affects the liver and kidneys and is not absorbed in the bone.

    My theory is because the necropsy determined blunt force trauma to the head and neck, the kitten was shaken, sort of like "Shaken Baby Syndrome" only it's shaken kitten syndrome. There was no skull fracture just bleeding internally in the skull, lungs, etc.

    I did like the fact that our presence is known and pissing the defense attorney off, which means we WILL be there at every single hearing.
    Last edited by moosmom; 09-09-2008 at 08:35 AM.

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    That newspaper article is totally ludicrous!!!! I suppose since he has an i.q. of only 68, that they can get off saying "he didn't know any better"? Will they still feel the same when he moves on to children next? And not charge him as an adult???? - would that even be legal considering his age? And what a shame that animal rights activists are showing up in court and voicing their outrage - the only shame here is that there aren't more of them.

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    It sounds as though they're basing the entire trial on just that one kitten then, correct? What about the other cats that were found "ill and malnourished" as stated in the article? All you can do is continue to show your presence, Donna. Atty. Gable is apparently confident that this is all going to come to nothing given his response to the "angry villagers" who were protesting. It's disheartening, maddening!
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    I wish I knew what kind of car he drives. I'd flatten his tires. Not one but ALL OF THEM. Ooooops, I didn't know that if you stuck something in a tire, it goes flat.

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    I'm saying this in all seriousness and not being flippant, how did he even get a drivers' license? If his IQ is that low, I would think that he wouldn't have been able to understand the questions on the test. This isn't a judgment of intelligence on my part; I'd truly like to know because if he's that intelligent to pass a driver's test, shouldn't he be intelligent enough to know that you don't smash in a skull?????
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    You've got a very good point, Mary.

    I just heard from Irene who had a long talk with the prosecuting attorney. He told her that he always sits stone cold faced and listens to every single word the other side has to say. He assured her that Jay Baldwin will not walk. He said that it is imperative that no one make any comments when leaving the courtroom or it will damage the case. Even a peep out of anyone can ruin the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moosmom View Post
    I wish I knew what kind of car he drives. I'd flatten his tires. Not one but ALL OF THEM. Ooooops, I didn't know that if you stuck something in a tire, it goes flat.
    Donna, if you can get to it, don't forget the spare!

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    I aggree with Laura & David of can not say what I want to here.. It just all Disgust Disgust me to no end..

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    The prosecuting attorney told Irene to keep up the publicity. Get every tv station and newspaper involved (which we've been doing). Get in touch any and all rescue organizations. The more people outside the courtroom with signs, the better.

    Rest In Peace Casey (Bubba Dude) Your paw print will remain on my heart forever. 12/02
    Mollie Rose, you were there for me through good times and in bad, from the beginning.Your passing will leave a hole in my heart.We will be together "One Fine Day". 1994-2009
    MooShoo,you left me too soon.I wasn't ready.Know that you were my soulmate and have left me broken hearted.I loved you like no other. 1999 - 2010See you again "ONE FINE DAY"
    Maya Linn, my heart is broken. The day your beautiful blue eyes went blind was the worst day of my life.I only wish I could've done something.I'll miss your "premium" purr and our little "conversations". 1997-2013 See you again "ONE FINE DAY"

    DO NOT BUY WHILE SHELTER ANIMALS DIE!!

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