PT Prayers for Tiger...

[Catty1]

Here's part of an email from Emeraldgreen I got this morning. PT Prayers can work wonders...and any suggestions to help Tiger. I suggested plain vaporizing again without the Vicks - hopefully that will loosen stuff so Tiger can cough it up. Are there stronger antibiotics that anyone knows of?

And the house selling isn't helping...

We did get an offer in and then we countered it and that has been accepted but it is subject to the sale of their house which isn't even listed yet so our agents have put a clause in the contract that says we can accept other offers but they have 5 days to remove all their subjects if they want the house. So, it looks like it's going to be a long summer.
Tiger is not doing that great. He has been on Baytril for 8 days now and nothing much has changed. It seemed at first that it was helping but he is back to his worsened condition. I called the vet and asked them if I could try giving him Benedryl to help with nasal congestion. She said I could try it but she didn't think it would help. She was right, it just made him really wobbly and tired and I later found on the internet that Benedryl is helpful for a runny nose but can worsen congestion. Yikes.
I went and bought a Vicks vaporizor and put him in the bathroom and put the shower on to steam up the bathroom, along with the Vicks vaporizor. He seemed even worse the next day. I later found out that eucalyptus isn't good for cats and it's one of the ingredients in Vicks. I don't really know what else to try, I just hate to see him trying so hard to breathe. It isn't right. I think I'm nearing some kind of decision but I'm grasping at straws trying to find one more thing that might work.

Thanks all...

[jennielynn1970]

Oh gosh, poor Tiger boy.

He'll be in my thoughts and prayers. He deserves so much to feel healthy and happy after all he's been through.

Big hugs and kisses to Tiger!

[Medusa]

Oh my, I've not had any experience w/this type of thing so I'm afraid that I can't be of any help other than prayers, which I do w/out ceasing anyhow. Gonna pump up the volume! Hang in there, Emeraldgreen. I'm so sorry you have to go through this.

[MoonandBean]

I was just thinking about Emerald and Tiger this morning and hoping they were all doing well! I'm so sorry to hear he's still struggling! I just said a prayer!

[Moesha]

I wish so much there was some advice I could give. I think of Tiger often and hope something will help him.

[Catty1]

Humans can take cough syrup with an expectorant, which gets the gunk out...don't know what there is for cats...

Stepronin (SPN): http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8177972

http://compepid.tuskegee.edu/syllabi.../chapter3.html
3.26 Mucokinetic Therapy (NT)

* Mucokineses achieved by:
o - Thinning Viscous Secretions
o - Improving ciliary activity
o - Improving air way mechanics
o - Water most valable Agents
+ (a). Mist (steam)
+ (b). Vapor (aerosols) Mouth
# Caution - Bronchospasm with (a) & (b).
o Agents - water, Saline. 2% Propylent glycol 2 ml
o - Acetylcysteine - Breaks mucoprotein mol. 2 to 5 ml, 10% Sol for nembulization
o - Sod. Bicarb 2.5% for nembulization natural proteases, Adhesiveness Resp. secretion by osmotic effect
o - Ethanol - Surface tension of Resp. T.
o - Eucalyptus, menthol and camphor - ?

3.27 Oral Mudcokinetic Agents (Expectorants)

Reflex stimulation of vagal efferents to Bronchial gland through gastric mucosa.

* - Oral W.K. Salt sol. - Amm. bicarb
* - Amm. chloride, KI, Sod. bicarbm NaCL
* - Volatile oil
* - Phenolic Compounds - Creosol, G. Guaiacolate.

3.28 Aerosol Therapy

* - Suspension of a liquid as fine particles dispersed in a gas. Idea particle size 2-4 u
* - A plastic bag tapped to the neck and a nubulizer attached at one cut corner

3.31 Decongestant Therapy

* When specific etio. lacking
* Antihistamines - chlorpheniramine
* Alpha adrenergic sympathomimetics
* Cause vasoconstriction. Rebound congestion?
* e.g. Phenylephrine, phenylpropanolamine

3.46 Pneumonia - Inflam. of Lung

* Classify - Broncho. Lobar., Intgerstitial, Br. Vascular, Thromboemoblic,
* Granulomatous, Atelectasis
* Etiopath - Physical, chemical, biological agents
* damage resp. mucosa, Inflam, reduced cilliary activity, fluid accumulation, Pneumonia
o - Ecoli, Pseudo, Pasteu. Proteus, Strep, Staph
* Bordetella. Virus, Fungal.
* Parasitic - A. Abstrusus, P. Kellicott
* Signs - Anorexia, depression, dehydration, fever
* Prod. cough, Rhinitis, Sinusitis, Conjectivitis, moist roles on Auscultation. Dyspnea, activity.
* Dx - MDB, Leukocytosis, "Stress response" degenerative left shift. Metabolic and Resp. acidosis. x-ray-alveolar pattern
o - Culture & Sensitivity through Bronchial wash or Percutaneous route
* Rx - Same as in chr. Bronchitis, AB. through clinical recovery Anthilminitics

3.43.2 Chronic Bronchitis

* Etio - Viral, Bact, Allergy, Mycoses, neoplasia, C.V.
* Signs - More common in > 4 yrs. Persistant Harsh cough with retching
o - Productive moist. Moist rales on Ausc.
* Dx - MDB., x-ray, cBC, - "Stress". Bronchoscopy
* Cytology, culture
* Rx - Control/Cure - AB, Bronchodilators, expect.
* Antitussive Prednisilone 0.5 mg/lb/day
o - TLC, Humidification, Hembulization.
o - Treat the cause


Lara, the above page also mentions steaming as good. Is there a med the vet could give Tiger to inhale in the vaporizer? Camphor and menthol is mentioned also, but check and see if it's ok.

Your vet may be able to translate the above.

HUGS!

[kb2yjx]

Back in February, our soon to be 16 yr old Norton, had a terrible URI. I used the vaporizor, but I also mixed up GOLD SEAL Elixir(available at health food shops). I took several dops of the exilir and put it into about 30cc's of normal saline. And with the help of an army, Barry and I put 2 drops in each nostril several times a day. The gold seal helps in relieving the congestion and reduces the inflamation(sp) of the mucos membranes. Maybe that will help your boy!!! Sending prayers along, too.....

PS: If you can get a copy of Anitra Frazier"s the " New Natural Cat " this info is in there!!!

[Freedom]

Prayers for Tiger from RI!

[catmandu]

I AM GETTING A BOOK ON HERBAL REMEDIES FOR MICHAEL AND BO BO, AND ONE FOR SORE TEETH FOR JJJ3 MONDAY.
IF I SEE ANYTHING THAT CAN HELP TIGER I WOULD BE GLAD TO PASS IT ON, ALONG WITH OUR PRAYERS FOR YOUR DEAR FRIENDS RECOVERY.

[Romy]

A couple of suggestions for precious Tiger:

http://www.nativeremedies.com/petali...dog-noses.html

And the following from a vet:
OPEN THE AIRWAYS. For some cats with severe nasal congestion I have used Pediatric Otrivin. Use one drop in each nostril 3 times daily for 3-5 days.

[Pawsitive Thinking]

Poor Tiger. Is there anyway that he could get a change of environment? A couple of days away from all the household stresses might help. I would imagine that with constant viewings etc you have upped the cleaning and use of chemicals which may be aggravating his condition

[jennielynn1970]

We used nose drops on a cat at the shelter too... his name is Calvin. He had some kind of nasal tumor too as I remember. He looked like crap for a long time, but I just saw him last monday, and he's is looking amazing. I'd definitely see if you can use nose drops.

[Medusa]

We used nose drops on a cat at the shelter too... his name is Calvin. He had some kind of nasal tumor too as I remember. He looked like crap for a long time, but I just saw him last monday, and he's is looking amazing. I'd definitely see if you can use nose drops.

Yes, now that I recall, I used nasal spray on Pidge, just a regular saline solution. I got more on her than in her but it did help.

[krazyaboutkatz]

You can also try the pediatric nose drops called "Little Noses". I think you use one drop per nostril 2 times a day. I'm so sorry to hear that Tiger's still not doing well. I'll continue to keep him in my thoughts and prayers. I also hope that you'll sell your house soon.

[AbbyMom]

I'm so sorry to hear Tiger is still not feeling well. Prayers on the way.