Giving Petland a hard time

[IRescue452]

This is what I live for, a chance to drive a bad pet store out of business, or at least get them in trouble. So petland opened near us this weekend. The first store in our area in 2 decades to sell puppies. I scared the owner half out of his wits today. I asked what species his snake neck turtles are. His answer: "I don't know, let me look it up." So how does he look it up, he goes to grab one of the turtle books he sells to look for something that looks close. I ask if he has paper at all for it, no. No papers to tell the species or anything. So I have him call the supplier. Who has to look and call him back. Turns out its a Chelodina SieRenroki (sp?). I think this species might be totally illegal. I have to look it up. I advised him to get papers on each and every individual reptile he gets. SO, now I'm off to find out what kinda permits and papers he needs for this turtle. Maybe I can work him up his first fine. He's so scared that his turtles are illegal or need more permits he was ready to send them back to the supplier regaardless. I told him to wait and find out info on the species. That gives me time to see if I can get him for anything. Fun fun fun

[Husky_mom]

haven´t read it in full but maybe somehting like this

http://www.animallaw.info/cases/causfd143f3d1401.htm

ETA: this has nothing to do but mentions some laws having to be checked
http://www.naturecoastexotics.com/turtles?start=75

I also found this
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7.) Indonesian (a.k.a. North Australian) Snake-neck - Macrochelodina rugosa (previously Chelodina siebenrocki)

Description: Medium-Large highly aquatic side-necked species with a plain dark carapace, yellowish plastron, variably grayish skin & a very long neck. Predominant carnivores who may eat some Romaine lettuce. Infrequent basker but provide the option. Active. Recommend at least a 125 gallon aquarium. Native to New Guinea & Australia. Size: Up to 12".

Pro.s: Neat-looking; resemble sauropod dinosaurs with human-like faces. Can catch fish. Fairly non-aggressive with humans.

Con.s: Need large enclosures but some are aggressive & must be kept alone. Tropical & need warm water (figure ~ 80ºF) - not a hibernator. Will eat your fish. Can kill smaller turtles. Not all accept commercial pelleted foods.

Availability & Cost: Probably the most available snake-neck turtle in the U.S. Hatchlings ~ $50 - 100 apiece. I've seen a pair of adults for $425.

Known Legalities: None known in the U.S.

Helpful Care Resources: ATP Care Sheet, Carrettochelys.com's Natural History Discussion, World Chelonian Trust's Photo Gallery, Empire of the Turtle's Info. Page.

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[IRescue452]

Fantastic. How do you find this stuff so quickly?

It turns out they are legal assuming they weren't captive caught, which he should provide paperwork to prove. Oh well, gives him a good taste about how to run a pet store. He's in for a big fight if he wants to stay in business here, nobody wants Petland here.

Edit: I had spelt the species wrong and yahoo didn't give me any suggestions Thanks so much for your quick info.

[wombat2u2004]

HAH !!!!! This guy probably breaks out into cold sweats everytime he sees you walking down the road.
Wom

[Kalei]

Ahaha, he ain't gonna like you:P Goes to show that some owners just don't know how to run a business that is perfectly legal or right by law.

[Alysser]

Good for you! I have always hated Petland and their stores definately suck. Hope you can teach him a lesson.

[sweetpatata6]

Good for you! I have always hated Petland and their stores definately suck. Hope you can teach him a lesson.

I've never heard of "Petland" We have petmarts and petcos tho

[CagneyDog]

The petland here isn't half bad.

[IRescue452]

Petland has a very bad rep here. This one is new so its still clean. But puppies that look 5 weeks old. Kittens that look 4 weeks old. 15 bunnies in a 4x4 cage. 50 budgies in a 4x4 cage, wing to wing. 10 ferrets in a 4x4 cage. These are all those square plastic "cages" that are raised up and open on top they have in the middle of the store. Groups of hamsters together in those which will probably fight amongst themselves when they are over 2 weeks old, which is about their age. Basically its a recipe for disaster.

[Giselle]

In my book, Petland = puppy mill/kitty mill haven.

I HATE Petland with a fiery passion. Please, do whatever you can to give this guy a hard time. Shame on anybody who endorses pet store puppies and kittens. I hope you can even gather up a rally of animal lovers to shoo him away. Ugh. I hate hate hate petland.

[mugsy]

I would do anything in the world to shut that place down, but, unfortunately, their tentacles reach 'round the world. They are just plain evil. All Petlands buy from puppy mills. They keep sick dogs, sell them, and then tell the owners that if the dog dies there's a guarentee and they will replace it. I know people who have worked there and they tell horror stories about what happens behind the scenes. They make the employees sign waivers and promises not to bad mouth the store (at least they did here). I've been asked to leave 4 times. They also drug the animals...I picked up a ferret, who fell over in my hands because he was so drugged. The manager told me they sleep 18 hours a day, so he was just tired. Whatever. I also know that if the pup doesn't sell when they're young enough, they generally just put them down. CagneyDog, check out the premises a little closer, I think you'll find out. They are an international corporation whose bottom line is the almighty dollar...not the good of the animals.

[wombat2u2004]

Most pet stores here can be accused of puppy milling.
Years ago when I had my poodles, the bitch had a few litters, and when we advertised the puppies, the pet shops would try and buy them as a bunch. It never happened, my pups were sold individually, and only to good homes.
Wom

[IRescue452]

Not here. We haven't had a store in our area selling puppies in 20 years. Our stores put on adoption events with local rescues and shelters. This Petland is a giant step backwards. What's worse is there are so many people now who just don't care. They want what they want and they want it now. This new store has already sold over a dozen puppies in 1 week.

[crow_noir]

Wow, that is so sad.

This new store has already sold over a dozen puppies in 1 week.

[wombat2u2004]

This new store has already sold over a dozen puppies in 1 week.

Such a shame !!!! I suspect half of them will probably be abandoned when they start to grow and are not cute puppies still.
Wom