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    Are you a collector?

    I found this on the internet...

    The Psychology of Collecting:
    . Where-in the Author explores collectors of four flavors: The Clinical / Pathological Collector. The mere Nut-case Collector in us all, the Victim Collector, and finally, the Accidental Collector
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    . Where do I get off writing about the Psychology of Collecting? I have no degree in any of the behavioral sciences. (Took a Psychological Foundations of Education to get my teaching credential some years ago. Got an 'A', but frankly, I thought it was all a bit silly.) The answer is simple. I've made a hobby of observing people's hobbies. Talking to them –or more accurately- listening to them talk about a subject they love. (And I have to say that there are worse ways to learning about something. An interesting discourse and a dull discourse are often separated by little more then the discourser and his or her interest in that subject.)
    Collecting might be thought of as a subset of a larger human behavior named –if only for the sake of convenience- hobbies. But I'm not sure this is true. I theorize that collectors and hobbyists are entirely different things. Take model train people as evidence. I used to take my casework to train shows when they came to northern California. Nice people the model train 'hobbyists', but they come in two distinct flavors. There are those who build tracks and little cities and mountains etc. and then play with their trains. Then there are collectors who are somehow compelled to own a sample of every locomotive the Lionel made in a given year. Or all the locomotives Lionel ever made. Or all the locomotives, cars, tankers, cabooses, etc of a given scale / year / manufacturer. Often they don't even open the package –reduces the value, I'm told. Both the builders and the collectors go to the same show and –I suppose- talk to each other –but they are completely distinct species.

    PATHOLOGICAL COLLECTORS:
    There are some poor souls who are pathological in their collecting. Not my word, 'pathological'. The research folks use this word to describe collecting to the point that it interferes with daily life. Their houses are filled –and I mean literally every-square-foot- floor-to-ceiling-filled- until-it-crashes-through-the-floor-below FILLED with stuff. These people usually have no interest in the stuff in their collection, but pitch a fit if someone tires to take any of away. There is some research indicating how this might be explained. Steven W. Anderson, a neurologist, and his colleagues at the University of Iowa studied 63 people with brain damage from stroke, surgery or encephalitis who had no previous problems with hoarding before their illness, but afterward, began filling their houses with such things as old newspapers, broken appliances or boxes of junk. The good Doctor sez:
    These compulsive collectors had all suffered damage to the prefrontal cortex, a brain region involved in decision making, information processing and behavioral organization. The people whose collecting behavior remained normal also had brain damage, but it was instead distributed throughout the right and left hemispheres of the brain.

    Anderson posits that the urge to collect derives from the need to store supplies such as food--a drive so basic it originates in the subcortical and limbic portions of the brain. Humans need the prefrontal cortex, he says, to determine what "supplies" are worth hoarding.
    I need to make one last point before moving on to the merely nutty-non-pathological-collectors. All the reading I've done suggests that collecting for -what-ever reason and to what-ever degree- is little understood and there is really not all much clear research out there. This takes me back to my starting point –I get to pretend to be an expert on the psychology of collecting because t'aint no one else out there who is any better qualified then I am.

    NUT-CASE (non-clinical) COLLECTORS:
    Somewhat less 'traumatic' / 'dramatic'? -and it's pretty clear I'm on thin-ice psycho-babble here-- are the merely obsessive compulsive disorder collectors. No detectable brain damage –just good old OCD –or we might call it OCCD, (Obsessive Compulsive Collecting Disorder). But I wonder how many people who are truly committed to a given subject, (coin collecting, the Denver Broncos, UFO's, conspiracy theories, you name it) have family and friends who look at them, shake their heads and mutter something about OCD under their breaths. But before we get on to collectors –Collectors with a capital C, coins, stamps, model railroad car Collectors, etc., we might consider the collector in all of us. There is a delightful story written by Judith Katz-Schwartz* – Remembering Grandma. Her grandma was a refugee –as a very young girl- from Tsarist Russia who collected…. and I quote
    …the tops of Bic pens neatly wound with rubber bands; hundreds of tiny garment snaps threaded onto safety pins; at least one hundred glass jars, all sparkling clean; eighty-seven neatly rolled and clamped Ace bandages.
    I thought this was a little funny, till the chap with whom I share a wood shop reminded me about the two big garbage bags I have filled with carefully cleaned BBQ sauce bottles. I love BBQ sauce and eat it on almost everything. About a bottle a week. No idea what will ever come of them, but I KNOW the day will come when I'm dang glad I have all these empty BBQ sauce bottles.
    Judith sums it up beautifully and with kind & rare insight, I think. In the above mentioned article, she closes with….
    Some people collect for investment. Some collect for pleasure. Some folks do it to learn about history. And some people "save things" because it helps them to fill a gaping hole, calm fears, erase insecurity. For them, collecting provides order in their lives and a bulwark against the chaos and terror of an uncertain world. It serves as a protectant against the destruction of everything they've ever loved. Grandma's things made her feel safe. Though the world outside was a dangerous and continually changing place, she could still sit safely in her apartment at night, "putting together my things".
    Then there was an episode from the TV sit-com Third Rock from the Sun. You might remember that Dick –(John Lithgow) became obsessed with Fuzzy Buddies. I take "Fuzzy Buddies" to be the producer's way to avoid being sued by the folks that make "Beenie Babies." If one were to be perfectly honest about things, I suspect most –if not all of us- saw a little of ourselves in the character.
    There is another quite unique kind of nut-case collecting -that practiced by dictators as they accumulate bric-a-brac. Possible motives for collecting abound: compulsion, competition, exhibitionism, desire for immortality and the need for experts' approval. According to Peter York, a British journalist who studied dictators' decor for his book Dictator Style, recognizes all of the above in his subjects. It's basically a dictator's job, he says, to take everything over-the-top. For example...



    Saddam Hussein

    Sci-fi fantasy paintings featuring menacing dragons and barely-clad blondes.

    Adolf Hitler

    Bavarian 18th century furniture. Munich antique dealers were ordered to keep an eye out for him.

    Kim Jong II

    20,000 videos (Daffy Duck cartoons, Star Wars, Liz Taylor and Sean Connery flicks)

    Idi Amin

    Several racing cars and loads of old film reels of I Love Lucy reruns and Tom and Jerry cartoons

    Joseph Stalin

    Westerns with Spencer Tracy, Clark Gable and John Wayne. Stalin also inherited Joseph Goebbels's films.



    He also points out that "Some of these people," he says, "were really very short."






    VICTIM COLLECTORS:
    Don't know what else to call this set. There are a few companies that sell stuff so well –and with such frightening insight to their customers, and do so with such deliberate marketing plans carefully designed to exploit the poor collector's peccadilloes, that these collectors are victims of something –themselves - or the mean old marketing companies, don't know which.

    Case in point is Hallmark Cards and their Christmas Keepsake Ornaments. Note particularly the word "keepsake" and compare it to the idea of "nostalgia". (Any research into collecting by the PhD crowd seems to hang on the word "nostalgia.") It is reasonable to collect things that speak from the past. This is no more nor less then any historic museum does. It is also reasonable to collect things that trigger -let us hope- pleasant memories of our own past. (People of my age remember Chutes and Ladders and Candy-Land games. This it the sort of thing Daniel Arnett writes about in her article Why We Collect, published elsewhere on this site.) But these things are authentic.

    Hallmark has made millions -and I have nothing against making money- selling fake nostalgia -and let us not mince words here- to women. If you were to read the articles I have, it also seems clear that these women are not women with careers, educations, children to raise, or -and we are still not mincing words here- much else to do.

    And what lengths will Hallmark goes to to get these poor women to buy the next ornament -or series of 5 or 10 ornaments? Seminars, conventions, news letters, autograph opportunities (the artists), and advance viewings. (Advance viewings for plastic ornaments stamped out in by the millions??? YEP!)

    Not just Hallmark either. Consider Franklin Mint, Hummel Figurines, little ceramics of English cottages, memorial plates with Elvis painted thereon. Not for nothing are these things 'nostalgic'. When ever a kid's movie comes out either McDonalds or Burger King has little plastic toys / figurines / antenna balls of each character. Then kids of a certain age must be fed Happy Meals until they have the entire collection. (For kids "nostalgia" stretches all the way back to the movie they saw a whole week ago.)



    ACCIDENTAL COLLECTORS:
    My sister tells me of a fourth and final category of collector. This sort might might well be viewed as a victim as well, but I chose to call them accidental. She writes...

    Someone mentions once that they like X and then for years later all their friends give them is X and then they really start to hate X. Loren and Bonnie [my nieces] once had a teacher that everyone in the whole school knew loved giraffes and collected them. I was talking to her one day and she said it all started years ago when she was explaining a project the kids had to do to tell about themselves. She used herself as an example and said out of the blue that she liked giraffes. Now this poor women has received every possible giraffe thing ever made. She told me that she doesn't even like the damn animals.

    The psychology of these poor souls is easy to understand. They are the 'co-dependent,' ('accidental enablers'?) nexus of a mild mass-OCCD. They know to be well meant but they are too kind to get out say anything to get themselves out if it. Whad'y-gonn'a-do?



    *Judith has a wealth or excellent advice to offer collectors. And some very nice stuff of her own for sale. Check out her site Twin Brooks and her book Secrets of a Collecting Diva If I had her book before I wrote some of my articles –would'a saved me a lot of research and making-up stuff.

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    I collect keychains. I probably have over 150 now. It all started when my son went to Germany for his senior class trip. He traveled to the city of his birth and brought back a keychain. After that whenever someone went some where they brought me one. Since both of my boys were in the military, AF and Navy they collected quite a few. I have a friend who travels a lot she is a Capt in the Army she never fails to buy me two or three. I ask people all the time for keychains, neighbors, friends, co-workeres, business associates. Everyone has been really cool about it. I have almost all of the 50 states (I have a lot of doubles as well) and a some from the Middle East. I have Germany, Paris, Iceland, Italy, Bostwana, Ireland, El Salvador, Canada, Scotland, Australia, Hong Kong, (which is a tiny elephant) and many many more. I had them on three different cork boards in our hallway and everyone who came into the house always loved looking at them and adding to the collection.

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    I love collecting. It's very fun and when people collect something it shows other people something about themselves and their personality. I collect a few things. The biggest thing I collect is movies. I love movies with a passion and have a pretty big collection of movies.

    I also collect letters from people. Mainly my bestfriend. Ever since I met her in grade 8 we wrote notes and letters back in forth to each other, sometimes up to 5 letters a day and I never ever threw one away, i always collected them. I have them in a nice box and haven't counted them for awhile, but last time I checked i had between 300 and 400 letters. Sometimes I take them out and read them from way back when.

    I guess you could also say that I collect pictures...lol I have a humongous picture collection of my animals..but I bet that is normal for most pters on here


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    About 10 years ago I liked teapots. Little ones, medium ones, with different decorations.I collected them for a long time a put them in my Curio cabinet, and in my China cabinet. It is very pretty to look at them in my dinning room area. I have an eye for decorating also. My sisters always ask my opnion on something for their houses before they buy it.I don't collect anything anymore. But I like getting new toys for my chi's or t-shirts and such.


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    I've always disliked the marketing of things as "collectibles" because I grew up thinking that amassing mounds of Stuph that you didn't have any use for except simply OWNING it was foolish, and the marketers thereof were crooks. So the "created needs" that result in the "victim collectors" you describe above tick me off, especially since the collectors tend to be people who really could use the money for something else (like not getting the utilities shut off).

    Self-motivated collecting, though - mine's mineral specimens. Small, pretty mineral specimens. It's not "collecting" in the purest sense because I do occasionally come up with a brilliant idea for a jewelry piece for one or another of them, but I mostly just like looking at them!

    Love, Columbine

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    The "accidental collector" paragraph is sooooo true.

    I collect Steiff teddy bears. I don't have thousands, honestly, I have like twenty. (Only because they are expensive, though! ) I like these particular bears a lot, but I not particulary fond of bears in general. People don't get that. My family and friends insist on buying me keychains, sweatshirts, drinking glasses, etc. with random images of teddy bears on them. No. Not the same thing. And they buy me any teddy bear they see. Nice gesture, and I hate to sound like a snob, but stop it already. I want a few dozen carefully-chosen, authentic, imported Steiff bears. Not a few hundred generic stuffed animals from Walmart.

    My sister once found a set of kitchen stuff - canisters, salt and pepper shakers, dishes, etc. - with green frogs on it. She thought they were cute, and inexpensive, so she decided to change her kitchen to frogs for a year or so just for fun. What happened ... she received 500 frog items over the next decade. She said, "And frogs ... real frogs ... actually kind of creep me out. I just liked these one particular cartoonish-looking frogs on this one item." People mean well, and you just have to laugh, but wow! does it clutter up your house!

    I have found, over the years, that my desire to collect and hoard meaningless items grows in direct proportion to two things ... the amount of space I have to put it all in and the amount of time I have on my hands. If I'm bored, I shop. And if there is room, I fill it. There used to be two people in this house, with several extra rooms ... rooms I filled with stuff. When I got married, now there are six people in the house, with not an exta shelf available. This has, fortunately, drastically cut down on the time and money I spend searching ebay and antique stores for The Perfect Insert-Obsession-Of-The-Month-Here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marigold2
    I collect keychains. I probably have over 150 now...
    Do you want some lovely teddy bear and/or frog keychains? My sister and I would be more than happy to send you some!
    "We give dogs the time we can spare, the space we can spare and the love we can spare. And in return, dogs give us their all. It's the best deal man has ever made" - M. Facklam

    "We are raised to honor all the wrong explorers and discoverers - thieves planting flags, murderers carrying crosses. Let us at last praise the colonizers of dreams."- P.S. Beagle

    "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost. From the ashes a fire shall be woken, A light from the shadows shall spring; Renewed shall be blade that was broken, The crownless again shall be king." - J.R.R. Tolkien

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    The only thing I collect it my birds old feathers under my bed lol,

    Of course there usualy gone every time I vacume .. hmmm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by columbine

    Self-motivated collecting, though - mine's mineral specimens. Small, pretty mineral specimens. It's not "collecting" in the purest sense because I do occasionally come up with a brilliant idea for a jewelry piece for one or another of them, but I mostly just like looking at them!

    Love, Columbine

    Self motivated collecting.... I like that. Not a complusion, just motivated.


    I loved collecting interesting stones when I was a kid. Had quite a
    good collection too. I had forgotten all about that.


    I also collect old coins from the US and other countries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chica
    About 10 years ago I liked teapots. Little ones, medium ones, with different decorations.I collected them for a long time a put them in my Curio cabinet, and in my China cabinet. It is very pretty to look at them in my dinning room area. I have an eye for decorating also. My sisters always ask my opnion on something for their houses before they buy it.I don't collect anything anymore. But I like getting new toys for my chi's or t-shirts and such.
    My MIL collects teapots!! she has tons of them! she has a huge section of her kitchen, specifically for her Teapots. They are all sizes, shapes, colors.
    Maggie,

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    I collect anything with Animals on it!! He he he he!! I love critter Knick Knacks! Especially frogs and Horses!! My bedroom is all horses, and the small bath, is gonna be all frogs, once it is completed!
    Maggie,

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    Collector ?? Yep!

    I have been collecting pitchers for several years now. Have my limit and will probably have to move to a bigger home if I continue! I also have a ton of The Cat's Meow thingies that have the black cat on them......They remind me of postcards or photos.

    While I was recovering from foot surgery in mid-January, I became addicted to Ebay and sent away for way too many pitchers and thingies. I need to chill........with the spending....I was bored and used the excuse that I needed to learn how to use Ebay if I want to sell my mittens there some day soon. A poor excuse is better than none.

    I also collect money. Feel free to send me any extra you may have and want to get rid of......

    Your fellow collector,
    Sas

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Kalei
    I guess you could also say that I collect pictures...lol I have a humongous picture collection of my animals..
    That sounds like me!!

    i erh... tend to collect pictures i find off the internet of someone too.

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    I collect mouse things. I love the little charming tails figurines. And the Wee forest folk... but they are way overpriced for me.

    I have a whole set of children's books with MICE as the main characters. I can't have kids... I just wanted the books for me.

    I love little mice. Can't have them as pets anymore, the kitties are way too fond of them. The kitties never killed any, but a few times (2) they managed to get into the cage and bring me a mouse from the other side of the house. I decided it wasn't fair to the mice... so I can't have them anymore.

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