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    whos fault would it be?

    My sister's boyfriend was walking there one dog yesterday and some guy that worked at there apartment complex just walked up and and pet the dog, Well he never asked to pet her and just reached down and she bit him enough to draw blood, Holly does'nt like alot of men expecually if she does'nt know them and some of you who have border collies know some border collies are protective of thier family... The guy flipped out and now the landlord called and told them they need all her vet info and so on, thats all understandable but the man also lied and said my sister has a cat and other animals at her place and she is only aloud to have 2, she doesnt have a cat and she does have 2 dogs and thats it. What I dont understand is why he is flipping out on my sister and her boyfriend when he did'nt even ask to pet holly or anything and before my sisters boyfriend could tell him she would bite the damage was already done. Would'nt that be more his fault for not asking first? Also she called the vet where she always takes her dogs and they said they have no info on either dog!!! so now she is having trouble finding all the vet info!
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    I am afraid any dog bite is serious. I would suggest being apologetic- not angry. I hope this works out, but having too many cats is the least of their problems. Does the dog have a rabies shot?

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    It was stupidity or ignorance on the part of the person who was bitten as any dog can become protective given the right circumstances.

    However it's your brother-in-laws fault for allowing the incident to happen. The leash laws state that a dog owner must have their dog under control at all times.

    He put the dog in a position where something like this could happen, knowing that the dog is protective and doesn't like men, it was his responsibilty to keep the dog under control and warn the neighbor to stay out of reach.

    If the dogs had been seen by that vet; the vet is required to maintain a file on that pet with a copy of the rabies certificate attached. The rabies vaccination can also be confirmed by the local Rabies animal control agency.
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    Unfortunately, it is the fault of the owner - in the law's eyes.

    The only way I think it wouldn't be is if the owner warned the person that their dog has the ability and may bite. Then again, they may claim that the dog is then dangerous and proper precautions (muzzle) should have been taken.

    Animal lovers should have made the laws.


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    This is a sad situation,Where are they from,I was watching Animal Cops last night,This man had a rotti,The rotti was going to the vet office,I started watching half way through,Regardless the rotti had bitten,The animal control took as protecting his owner,All laws are different in different states i think this was in Miami,Regardless Best of luck too all inviloved.

    My thinking though if you walk up to a strange dog your taking a chance,Regardless if the dog will nip,or it is the friendliest dog around.

    My Maggy does not like strangers,Thankfully she just lets out a few grumbles and lays down.

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    Unfortunately it is the owners fault. This is why I was so concerned about rocky, who seemed to have aggression towards men. Just have them do the best they can to appease the man, and not get angry, accidents do happen. Best of luck!
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    Well, that man needs to be politley educated. My Layla bit anyone who came up and petted her, because she would be easily startled. I never touch ANYONE's dog without asking first.

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    Applesmom said it very well. It is definitely the dog owners fault. There is a responsibility to control your dog. I had a foster that bit someone once (it was definitely not that person's fault). I attempted to be apologetic and offered to take the person to whatever doctor/hospital he wished to be checked out at. However, he indicated that since this was the second time he had been bitten by a dog (not one of my dogs, as a matter of fact not any of the dogs in our area) he was fed up and wanted to call the police. I politely waited until the police arrived gave them my information and took the foster and Ginger home. The man signed a complaint against me for failure to control a dog on leash. However, he never showed up at any of the court dates. Unfortunately, with my job I cannot be appearing on the municipal court lists, so I have had to stop fostering until I have my own property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by borzoimom
    I hope this works out, but having too many cats is the least of their problems. Does the dog have a rabies shot?

    Where did you see the poster say that she has a lot of cats?

    I would think that the man is at fault here. If he reached out to the dog
    without permission, it's his fault.

    Also All Vets keep records on all their patients, so tell her to contact the
    Vets office again. Good luck with this.
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    It does seem logical that a person wouldn't want to take a chance at petting a dog they don't know, period. I can understand how you're seeing it angelbow. I would just feel like saying, "Hey, you shouldn't have come near the dog."

    However, laws are laws. The dog owner is liable. What is so hard to understand is why is her vet having trouble finding any info on her dog/s? Also, why is he accusing her of having extra pets in the house? Okay, the guy is upset but why is he fabricating stories?


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    Quote Originally Posted by angelbow20
    ... the guy flipped out and now the landlord called and told them they need all her vet info and so on thats all understandable but the man also lied and said my sister has a cat and other animals at her place and she is only aloud to have 2, she doesnt have a cat and she does have 2 dogs and thats it.
    Lizbud- the man thinks she has two cats- but she has two dogs.. With a bite- her house will be inspected as well. Obiously there is a limit where she lives how many animals she can have.
    Angelbow- I hope she can find the records or remembers which vet. And applesmom is right- even on a leash - you still have to maintain control .

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    Quote Originally Posted by borzoimom
    I am afraid any dog bite is serious. I would suggest being apologetic- not angry. I hope this works out, but having too many cats is the least of their problems. Does the dog have a rabies shot?

    they dont have any cats they only have 2 dogs. and they think she is up todate on her shots but arent sure because the vet never sends them reminders or calls either, they think she is getting close to it though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lori Jordan
    This is a sad situation,Where are they from,I was watching Animal Cops last night,This man had a rotti,The rotti was going to the vet office,I started watching half way through,Regardless the rotti had bitten,The animal control took as protecting his owner,All laws are different in different states i think this was in Miami,Regardless Best of luck too all inviloved.

    My thinking though if you walk up to a strange dog your taking a chance,Regardless if the dog will nip,or it is the friendliest dog around.

    My Maggy does not like strangers,Thankfully she just lets out a few grumbles and lays down.

    They live in Pa.. so im not sure about the laws but my sisters boyfriend offered to pay for whatever he needs to, He said they guy had the smallest little scratch and flipped out and grabbed at the dog so fast that he couldnt even warn him intime, they were just outside there apartment door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daisy and Delilah
    It does seem logical that a person wouldn't want to take a chance at petting a dog they don't know, period. I can understand how you're seeing it angelbow. I would just feel like saying, "Hey, you shouldn't have come near the dog."

    However, laws are laws. The dog owner is liable. What is so hard to understand is why is her vet having trouble finding any info on her dog/s? Also, why is he accusing her of having extra pets in the house? Okay, the guy is upset but why is he fabricating stories?

    Thats what I dont understand, they actually have 3 dogs but he are keeping one at my house because they are moving out this month and are taking him back, so they only actaully had 2 dogs at there place, where they got seeing cats and stuff we have no idea though. and with the vets situation it kinda makes me mad because I also take my animals to the same vet and they seem to be so forgettable and lose papers and everything, my sisters before came home and went to the vets today to talk to them but Im not sure how it turned out yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelbow20
    they dont have any cats they only have 2 dogs. and they think she is up todate on her shots but arent sure because the vet never sends them reminders or calls either, they think she is getting close to it though.
    I hope the vet has them and the shots are up to date. Sounds like to me the one bit is going to make trouble..

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