Seems a bit of venting is needed RE: Todays issue

[DrKym]

Several people have made threads today about this issue.

I have also recieved several emails and pms' from those that know I know Michelle.
I have been asked to verify several times on this board by Michelle of the accuracy of her claims and accomplishments. In every instance, where I knew it as a fact and personally was there. She has accomplished alot.

In this latest portion of verification, I was not there, and several members asked me to verify the claim of the breeding.

I did the prudent thing before responding positive or negative, I talked to the studs owner. He denied knowing anything about the breeding until 10 am yesterday. He assured me he had no plans to breed his male to anyone. AI or otherwise.

I asked him if I could quote him on this, and relay the information given to Michelle and to the board members that asked me about it. He said yes.


The only issue I have here, is that I was saddened to be used in such a way, as anyone that knows me on this board is aware that I research both sides of an issue.

And that someone who is not a member has had to be interrupted in his taking care of his wife, whom he had picked up yesterday after a lengthy stay at the hospital to refute claims on his Kennel and his dog.

I hope this clears up any questions.

[caseysmom]

I am sorry you were caught in the middle like this dr. goodnow. Please remember you were not the one that lied.

[DrKym]

I am sorry you were caught in the middle like this dr. goodnow. Please remember you were not the one that lied.

Thanks

[NicoleLJ]

Your postion was a hard one but you had to be who you are(which is a great person) and be honest. Hopefully she will learn form this that lieing is NEVER worth it. I am also sorry you were caught in the middle. That is never a fun place to be.
Nicole

[lizbud]

Since you both replied in many threads before, did you not ever have
a clue that reckless claims were being made by her?

[DrKym]

Since you both replied in many threads before, did you not ever have
a clue that reckless claims were being made by her?

which is why when called to back up this claim I verified it. I can and did back the claims I knew to be true.

I did not have the other side of this claim, and would not put myself on the line without researching it for myself.

[moosmom]

Absolutely!! What person would do such a stupid, idiotic thing unless it's for the own gain and to fluff their ego by sounding important. Sad, isn't it??

[Sophist]

Dr. Goodnow, no need to apologize for not hiding the truth or backing up a lie. If you were simply straightforward and adhered to your personal standards of integrity, that's not anything to knock you for.

Honestly, I don't know or care about all of the ins and outs of this particular incident. All I can say is, Borzoimom did a lot of things that fed into the action Karen chose to take. It can't be blamed on a single incident, or anything other people did.

In my opinion, from what I have seen in my somewhat short time on Pet Talk, Karen is pretty fair and patient with bans. Anyone who is doled out a ban seems to have warranted it, and some even seemed to have worked hard to earn them.

[DrKym]

Dr. Goodnow, no need to apologize for not hiding the truth or backing up a lie. If you were simply straightforward and adhered to your personal standards of integrity, that's not anything to knock you for.

Honestly, I don't know or care about all of the ins and outs of this particular incident. All I can say is, Borzoimom did a lot of things that fed into the action Karen chose to take. It can't be blamed on a single incident, or anything other people did.

In my opinion, from what I have seen in my somewhat short time on Pet Talk, Karen is pretty fair and patient with bans. Anyone who is doled out a ban seems to have warranted it, and some even seemed to have worked hard to earn them.

Thank you.

[applesmom]

Speaking of integrity; isn't that what this whole thing is all about?

The entire basis of the dog fancy is based on integrity. From the Registries (in this instance AKC), to the parent clubs, (Borzoi club of America) on down to the breeders, exhibitors and handlers.

The Borzoi Club of America cleary states in their Code of Ethics; "To strive always to behave in a sportsmanlike manner and refrain from misleading and false advertising, maligning or giving false statements regarding dogs, breeding practices and BCOA members.

Drgoodnow didn't sacrifice her integrity so that she could honestly answer a legitimate question from board members here, Michelle (borzoimom) sacrificed hers by repeatedly posting lies.

The banning of borzoimom could be just the tip of the iceberg for her if she persists. She also put her membership in the Borzoi Club of America, the AKC and the entire dog fancy in danger.

Banning her from a pet discussion may be the best thing that ever happened to her if she takes this as a wake up call

[Ginger's Mom]

The banning of borzoimom could be just the tip of the iceberg for her if she persists. She also put her membership in the Borzoi Club of America, the AKC and the entire dog fancy in danger.

Banning her from a pet discussion may be the best thing that ever happened to her if she takes this as a wake up call

Thanks applesmom, I have typed a question in reference to that at least three times and have then deleted it. Part of my question is, if borzoimom has bred or titled dogs in the past (of any breed) wouldn't something like this call into question the pedigree of any other dog she has claimed to have bred and/or shown?

[drothergoodnow]

Thank you, Applesmom. I've been watching this situation brew for some time, with great trepidation. I strive every day for the level of integrity my wife has, and it's refreshing to see someone else that appreciates it, rather than bashing her for doing the right thing, regardless of personal cost. I've been through many situations where she has stood on her integrity, no matter what, while all the world turns on her. Thank you and everyone else that has stood with my wife during this. To those who have turned on her... You don't know the whole story, and, honestly, I'm disinclined to tell it to people who stab first and ask questions later. There is much more to this issue than anyone here knows. With that, I'll return to my regularly scheduled lurking...

[DrKym]

Thanks applesmom, I have typed a question in reference to that at least three times and have then deleted it. Part of my question is, if borzoimom has bred or titled dogs in the past (of any breed) wouldn't something like this call into question the pedigree of any other dog she has claimed to have bred and/or shown?

It could.

It would depend on the breedings, if there were studs available other than the named stud, if there were faults that the stud used threw only in that one litter.

Dog fancy is very tough world, and it is a very tight community, little goes on that isn't immediately known at the ringside.

[critter crazy]

Dr. Goodnow, I think that you are a great person and did what you needed to do. I know nothing of what has been going on, but to say the least I am shocked, at what was said by Michelle. I sure hope that this forum, can get past this, and return to its normal, lovely charm, that drew me here to begin with.

Once again, Dr. Goodnow, you are awsome!

[DrKym]

Maggie thank you.

I am rather fond of you too!