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    Ally again :( *UPDATED*

    *SIGH* Ally has done it again!

    My In-laws are visiting, and when they arrived I warned them repeatedly not to pet Ally, and to give her a wide berth. MIL told me that Ally is only biting me because I dont pray about it, and that if I show her love, and speak softly to her she won't bite! (I REALLY resented this - believe me if love alone could sort out this behaviour, Ally would have stopped biting years ago!!)

    Of course now the inevitable has happened, and my MIL got a sore bite on her hand from Ally. It's not infected YET, but I can almost guarantee that if this requireds a trip to the Doctor, Warren is going to tell me Ally has to go.

    I am aware that this may eventually happen - I CANNOT have her biting Cali - and you can flame me for this if you want - but in all liklihood she will have to be PTS. There are no no-kill shelters here, and I could not rehome a cat with such bad aggression issues. I was just hoping to postpone this horrible decision for as long as possible.

    On the one hand I feel sorry for my MIL, because I know that the bite is sore, but I am REALLY annoyed with her for not listening in the first place
    Last edited by Ally Cat's Mommy; 05-27-2006 at 09:15 AM.

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    Awww, Julie, my heart is breaking for you!

    Does Ally really need to be PTS? Maybe she would thrive in a single cat household. As long as you are very clear about her aggression issues? Do you know why she's so aggressive? If she's in an only cat household, she can do what she wants. How old is she?

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    I'm not familiar with your area at all, but is there a chance you could rehome Ally through the local vet. Or could your vet be of any help with techniques to discourage the behaviour? It must be so hard on you to go through this and try to make the best decision for everyone.

    Have you tried any of the bach remedies.....is it a stress issue? I don't remember your previous posts on why or when Ally bites. Here's a good article regarding biting with some suggestions.

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    The issues re re-homing are:
    Bahrain is a TINY island. I have been involved in cat rescue here for a number of years, and anyone who could give a cat a home has already had one placed there by me! Our ONLY shelter PTS approximately 40 healthy cats and kittens every month - there is no way they will be able to help rehome a cat with behaviour problems. (IF they had realised Connor was deaf, he would also have been PTS, but this was not diagnosed until after I adopted him).

    Ally's issues started about 6 months after I brought Connor home. Her attacks are usually totally unprovoked - she will either attack my ankles as I walk past, or jump onto the chair next to me whilst I am eating and try to bite my arm. her favourite is to snuggle in your lap, and as soon as you relax and stop being vigilant she lashes out.

    These are NOT little nips - these are serious deep punctures which usually require medical treatment, and have left me with scars.

    Cass - the article you linked was great. Ally is a mixture of the Dominant issues and some misdirected anger also. She is the Alpha cat - and is treated as such. She always get given treats first, and has her own special bed where Connor cannot jump up. She is always greeted and petted first also. (An animal psyc told me this about 18 months ago, and I have been doing this ever since)

    Sometimes she will STARE at Connor with total hatred in her eyes, then turn around and bite me. When I notice her staring at him like that I either distract her with treats or leave the room.

    I DID try rescue remedy - but I can't get a steady enough supply of it to treat their drinking water on an ongoing basis, and Ally is impossible to medicate. I have also tried Feliway plug-ins and they haven't helped.

    Debby - forgot to mention - Ally is 5 years old.

    She is my heart-cat and this is tearing me apart

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    Is there anyone here who might arrange a transport...I know it is Bahrain...any ideas out there?

    Poor you and Ally and Connor...

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    Oh Julie i am so sorry that you are having to go through this {{Hugs}}. I have no advice, but you will be in my thoughts.

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    so sorry to hear this Julie - I know how much Ally means to you and I can't imagine your heartache. Your first priority is Cali of course. I hope you can work something out.
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    Julie, when you tried the Rescue Remedy did it help Alllie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by emily_the_spoiled
    Julie, when you tried the Rescue Remedy did it help Alllie?
    Yes, if it DID help I bet we would ALL send you a bottle.

    Julie, I don't know what to say except I understand. An unpredicatble biter and a baby do not mix. And contrary to popular belief, not ALL cats are adoptable. I know that sounds strange coming from a volunteer with a no-kill rescue (who's very basis is that "there is a home for every animal") But I SEE the cats who live and die in our shelter because they are unadoptable.

    If you need to put Ally to sleep, at least you know that all she ever knew during her life was LOVE. Place her with another family and she may still end up PTS, or maybe turned out on her own, to die alone and unwanted. Place her at your shelter and she will feel abandonment before the inevitable.......being PTS.

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    You can't have a cat that might bite your baby, we all understand that and know you are in a terrible bind. Could you massage medication in Ally's ears because you should be able to get anti-anxiety medication made up this way - no, not on Bahrain probably, but can someone send it to you. Can you get a pharmacy somewhere else to ship you rescue remedy and something like Amitriptyline in gel format?

    It must be tough for you working in cat rescue in Bahrain. My closest friend is from the middle east and has talked about the huge difference between the way cats are regarded there and the way they are regarded here.

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    I can't think of anything. Ally is a cat I love very much.
    {{{{Hugs}}}} to you.

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    Thats A Shame If You Have To Give Up Ally.
    I Would Think A Cat Thats A Mil Chomper Would Prove Quite Useful.
    I Do Hope That You Can Find A Home For Ally, As She Bites Out Of Fear, Not Meaness.
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    I'm so sorry things haven't improved with Ally.

    If the rescue remedy helps you can count me in to send you some!

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    Thanks so very much for all your kind words and offers to help.

    Jen - I could not have put it better myself - you helped put into words how NOT every cat is adoptable, as unfortunate as that is.

    I have been thinking constantly about this, and discussed it with Warren - as we see it there are a couple of options:

    1. I would very much like to try the Amitriptyline or similar medication in a gel or cream. Is there anyone who would be able to ship it to my NY courier address *it would need to be packaged up with a couple of cheap toys or something so it looks like a gift and should sneak through customs*. Preferably someone with a PAYPAL account, because that would make it easy for me to re-imburse and pay post charges etc.

    2. How long do these meds take to work? I reakon I've got 6 months to get Ally sorted out before she becomes a real risk to Cali, as at the moment they don't have much contact with each other, but once Cali gets more mobile it will become a problem.

    3. IF the meds don't work, and IF I can get the money together, my MIL will give Connor a home in South Africa. I'm not sure if that will bring the "old" Ally back - I'd hate to rehome Connor, then if Ally didn't change I'd have to have her PTS and I'd end up with NO cats

    4. I am also in touch with a pet communicator (a different one from last time) to see if I can understand Ally and Connor's feelings better and try to help them.

    Thanks again to everyone - I love you guys!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by catmandu
    Thats A Shame If You Have To Give Up Ally.
    I Would Think A Cat Thats A Mil Chomper Would Prove Quite Useful.
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    ROTFLMAO Gary!!!!

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