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    Moussaoui Deserves Every Day Of It

    I'm glad he didn't get to be the martyr death he wanted. Let him rot.


    The Slow Rot at Supermax
    At Moussaoui's future home in Florence, Colo., inmates are reportedly not merely punished, but incapacitated and broken down.

    By Richard A. Serrano
    Times Staff Writer
    Published May 5, 2006


    ALEXANDRIA, Va. — Halfway through the trial, prison expert James E. Aiken looked straight at jurors and told them what Zacarias Moussaoui could expect if they sent him away for the rest of his life.

    "I have seen them rot," he said. "They rot."

    Aiken was describing what happens to the nation's highest-risk prisoners after they settle in at the federal government's maximum-security prison in Florence, Colo., known as Supermax.

    Moussaoui was formally sentenced Thursday to life in prison after a federal jury rejected a death sentence for the admitted Sept. 11 conspirator.

    Officials at the Federal Bureau of Prisons said that Moussaoui was destined for the facility high in the Colorado Rockies.

    Already there is a veritable "bombers' row" — Ramzi Ahmed Yousef, mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Center blast; Unabomber Theodore Kaczynski; Terry L. Nichols, an accomplice in the Oklahoma City bombing; Richard Reid, the so-called shoe bomber who Moussaoui testified was to join him in another Al Qaeda hijacking; and Eric Rudolph, who bombed abortion clinics and the Atlanta Olympics.

    All, like Moussaoui, are serving life without parole — spending their days in prison wings that are partly underground. They exist alone in soundproof cells as small as 7 feet by 12 feet, with a concrete-poured desk, bed and stool, a small shower and sink, and a TV that offers religious and anger-management programs.

    They are locked down 23 hours a day.

    Larry Homenick, a former U.S. marshal who has taken prisoners to Supermax, said that there was a small triangular recreation area, known as "the dog run," where solitary Supermax prisoners could occasionally get a glimpse of sky.

    He said it was chilling to walk down the cellblocks and glance through the plexiglass "sally port" chambers into the cells and see the faces inside.

    Life there is harsh. Food is delivered through a slit in the cell door. Prisoners don't leave their cells to see a lawyer, a doctor or a prison official; those visitors must go to the cell.

    But prisoners can earn extra privileges, like a wider variety of television offerings, more exercise time and visitation rights, based on their behavior.

    There are 1,400 remote-controlled steel doors. Motion detectors and hidden cameras monitor every move. The prison walls and razor-wired grounds are patrolled by laser beams and dogs.

    The facility is filling up. Four hundred inmates are there now. There is room for 90 more.

    Looking to restore order after a rash of prison violence at the federal maximum-security lockup in Marion, Ill. — the facility that replaced the notorious Alcatraz prison in San Francisco Bay — officials in 1983 put the prisoners on indefinite lockdown.

    California was among the first states to copy the concept, opening super-secure units in Corcoran in 1988 and Pelican Bay in 1989.

    The federal Supermax prison in Colorado was opened in November 1994. Nobody has escaped.

    "We just needed a more secure facility," said Tracy Billingsley, a spokeswoman for the Federal Bureau of Prisons. "We needed to bring together the most dangerous, that required the most intense supervision, to one location."

    In his trial testimony, Aiken said the whole point of Supermax was not just punishment, but "incapacitation."

    There is no pretense that the prison is preparing the inmate for a return to society. Like the cellmate of the count of Monte Cristo who died an old, tired convict, Aiken said, "Moussaoui will deteriorate."

    The inmate "is constantly monitored 24 hours a day, seven days a week," he said. "He will never get lost in a crowd because he would never be in a crowd."

    Christopher Boyce, a convicted spy who was incarcerated at Supermax, left the prison about 100 miles south of Denver with no regret. "You're slowly hung," he once told The Times. "You're ground down. You can barely keep your sanity."

    Bernard Kleinman, a New York lawyer who represented Yousef, called it "extraordinarily draconian punishment."

    Moussaoui might be a household name today, "but 20 years from now, people will forget him," Kleinman said. "He will sit there all alone, and all forgotten."

    Ron Kuby, another New York defense lawyer, has handled several East Coast "revolutionaries" who went on a killing spree, and a radical fundamentalist who killed a rabbi in 1990. All were brought to Supermax.

    He thought Aiken's description that prisoners rot inside its walls was too kind.

    "It's beyond rotting," he said. "Rotting at least implies a slow, gradual disintegration."

    He said there were a lot of prisons where inmates rot, where the staff "plants you in front of your TV in your cell and you just grow there like a mushroom."

    "But Supermax is worse," he said. "It's not just the hothouse for the mushrooms. It's designed in the end to break you down."
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud
    He said it was chilling to walk down the cellblocks and glance through the plexiglass "sally port" chambers into the cells and see the faces inside.

    I wonder if that's where Hannibal Lecter got his start.

    If he's a true martyr, he'll figure a way to get off the planet.

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    Perfect punishment. No quick death or martyrdom for him. Now if he wants to rant about how much he hates America no one will have to (or even be able to) hear.

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    The idea of that place gives me the chills. If there's a real-world Azkaban, that's it. I agree with the sentence; Moussaoi will become a non entity. I think all convicted terrorists of any flavor should have the same fate to rob them of the publicity "martyrdom" (execution) would provide.
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    One idae brought up in a Niven novel was that people convicted of heinous crimes become non persons. Their names are legally changed to Idiot number 12345. Even if they do live, they never see their names in print again. While I have reservations about something like this, it would be fitting in some cases. Let him rot.

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    ...how bout if "we the people" is painted on the inside walls of his cell. let him rot till the very molecules of his bones dissolve into dust...let it be so
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    I can't say how I feel about this 6@$tard without rambling. I'm glad he got life in prison. He'd better walk with his back to the wall. MY hunch is he'll wind up like Jeffrey Dahlmer, dead anways.

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    He will not ever have direct contact with another human being again.
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    I think the reality of his life behind bars has finally dawned on him.


    Moussaoui Recants; Confession 'Fabrication'

    POSTED: 4:17 pm EDT May 8, 2006
    UPDATED: 4:52 pm EDT May 8, 2006

    ALEXANDRIA, Va. -- Convicted Sept. 11, 2001, conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui is claiming he lied on the witness stand about being involved in the plot and wants to withdraw his guilty plea because he now believes he can get a fair trial.

    In a motion filed Friday but released Monday, Moussaoui said he testified March 27 he was supposed to hijack a fifth plane on Sept. 11 and fly it into the White House "even though I knew that was a complete fabrication."

    A federal court jury spared the 37-year-old Frenchman the death penalty last Wednesday. On Thursday, U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema gave him six life sentences, to run as two consecutive life terms, in the federal supermax prison at Florence, Colo.

    At sentencing, she told Moussaoui: "You do not have a right to appeal your convictions, as was explained to you when you plead guilty" in April 2005. "You waived that right."

    She said he could appeal his sentence but added, "I believe it would be an act of futility."

    Moussaoui's court-appointed lawyers told the court they filed the motion even though a federal rule "prohibits a defendant from withdrawing a guilty plea after imposition of sentence." They did so anyway because of their "problematic relationship with Moussaoui" and the fact that new lawyers have yet to be appointed to replace them.
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    ...okay chisle ...we the people...o the inside of his cell walls...continue to rot moussaoui. we the people will still be here when you are dust
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    Quote Originally Posted by joycenalex
    ...okay chisle ...we the people...o the inside of his cell walls...continue to rot moussaoui. we the people will still be here when you are dust


    OR, I thought they should pipe in our national anthem 24 hrs a day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud
    OR, I thought they should pipe in our national anthem 24 hrs a day.
    Yes and it should be sung by kids with high squeaky can't carry a tune in a bucket, voices!!!!

    It just cracks me up that now that he's going to live a miserable existence for the rest of his life, he wants to change his mind. We aren't stupid bub!!! You are getting just what you deserve.

    The other inmates won't be able to get at him. I hear he will be in almost solitary confinement. Poor baby will have to make do with a b&w tv too. What abuse!!!
    No matter what anyone does, someone some where will be offended some how!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud
    OR, I thought they should pipe in our national anthem 24 hrs a day.

    Nope,

    His own stupid statements.

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    I think it has dawned on him that he has been sentenced to the proverbial fate worse than death.
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