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    Muhammad cartoon row intensifies

    While I don't particularly like our danish Prime Minister, I agree that he shouldn't apologise for the drawings printed in a rightwing danish newspaper. I have to say though, it's not a newspaper I'd buy!

    I'm reading the Business Paper every day and the business people are terrified what could happen to the danish export, it's most likely already ruined.

    However, a lot of muslims here, who are not fanatics, disagree with what the Iman's say. What do these people expect in a country of democracy?

    Here's a link and a little video of what it's about:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4670370.stm

    In the middle of the page, a bit to the right is a link from Reuters. I'm sure there's more info on this somewhere.

    http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/



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    I am almost (but not quite ) speechless from this. I understand the cartoons causing offense. But if no one was ever allowed to do or say anything that might cause offense to another....well we would all be in a permanent state of paralysis.

    If these cartoons offend you...don't look at them. If the cover of Rolling Stone (with some guy portrayed as Jesus) offends you .....don't buy the magazine ....don't look at it.

    But to boycott anything made in California (because that is where Rolling Stones is published) because of it just doesn't make sense.

    Paxil in the drinking water.....PLEASE!

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    ES, please, no paxil in the drinking water, the DT's are dangerous.

    One of the military boards I'm a member of has started a "BUY DANISH"
    campaign because of the stance the government has taken, hoping to offset any negative effects. to quote one of the members "any time I can buy cookies and beer and help out an ally, I'm all for it!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    ES, please, no paxil in the drinking water, the DT's are dangerous.

    "any time I can buy cookies and beer and help out an ally, I'm all for it!"
    Paxil?

    I thought it was viagra?!?!?!? Here in El Lay there is a problem with vitamins, medicines and other things that humans take and do not metabolize...it ends up in the water!!!

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    Randi,

    The scariest part of this "protest" is that a group will protest against "ink on paper" and have no reaction to "blood on concrete".

    People cannot satirize a religious being, but it's quite alright to blow people up for a religious being...the hypocrisy isnumbing!

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    I hadn't heard about this, but I did hear that the Danish Muslims are in an uproar about the government banning the wearing of berkas (sp?). The government sees the berka as a sign of repression against women and they don't want women to feel repressed in their country. They were talking about other things too, but some idiot woman cut me off so I had to pay attention to the road rather than the radio, then they went on to say that it was a little odd that the Danish government would ban such a thing because their country is known for it's willingness to let people live their lives without discrimination of any sort. Oh, and they said it's rather odd also, because there are about a total of 24 berka wearers in the country so the reporters couldn't figure out what the uproar was about.

    However, I'm not sure if it was all "Danish government" or "Netherlands government" they were talking about since I'm not clear on the exact divisions between the two. Sorry Randi. Denmark is a part of the Netherlands, along with Holland and possibly other countries?
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    Geography?

    T+P-

    The Netherlands and Holland are the same country, The Netherlands being the proper term for the country. The Netherlands are to the northwest of Germany, and to the northeast of Belgium. Denmark is on the peninsula sticking out from the north of Germany that splits the Baltic and the North Seas.(The finger that points to the Scandanavian countries)




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    Thanks LH, but isn't Holland also part of the Netherlands?
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    Holland is a Province of the Netherlands. Sry, forgot to put that in there. Oops!

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    That's why I was confused. I seemed to remember Holland being referred to as the Netherlands, but I knew Denmark was also. Now I know - thanks.
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    I find PT to be a very interesting place.

    Anyone says something against gays, everyone's furious (this applies to people saying it on PT, or to news reports). If such a cartoon was made against another group of people, everyone around here would be furious. I say this based on my 'almost 4 years experience' on the forums. Actually, its like this in most of the world. When it has to do with Muslims, somehow, its all 'okay'. Sheesh.

    I will join my Muslim brothers and sisters in their anger and fury against this cartoon, and against those who made and promote it. I cannot STAND to see anyone ridicule Prophet Muhammad, or Moses, or Jesus, or Abraham, or ANY other prophet sent by God. When someone does or says something with the intent of hurting an entire nation, they deserve to be condemned.
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    I don't really care for humor that is at someone else's expense however condemned seems a bit of a strong word to me. Not sure what they should be condemned to. From what I understood the owner of the paper demoted the guy who did this.
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    I see that a Jordanian newspaper has reprinted some of the cartoons today. I will be interested to hear what reaction that brings.

    This from the BBC's website.

    "Jordanian independent tabloid al-Shihan reprinted three of the cartoons on Thursday, saying people should know what they were protesting about, AFP news agency reports.

    "Muslims of the world be reasonable," wrote editor Jihad Momani.

    "What brings more prejudice against Islam, these caricatures or pictures of a hostage-taker slashing the throat of his victim in front of the cameras or a suicide bomber who blows himself up during a wedding ceremony in Amman?"

    Link to today's update

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    PCB, most of the time when someone publishes something offensive to Americans the rest of America doesn't start calling for the death of the offender. If anything they ask that the offender be fired.

    I haven't seen the cartoons, and might not like them if I did, but I wouldn't boycott an entire country over them. I support the Danish Government in their protection of the freedom of speech, not what the speech was.

    The paper has also published an explanation and an apology :

    http://www.jp.dk/meninger/ncartikel:aid=3527646

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    PCB, most of the time when someone publishes something offensive to Americans the rest of America doesn't start calling for the death of the offender. If anything they ask that the offender be fired.

    I haven't seen the cartoons, and might not like them if I did, but I wouldn't boycott an entire country over them. I support the Danish Government in their protection of the freedom of speech, not what the speech was.

    The paper has also published an explanation and an apology :

    http://www.jp.dk/meninger/ncartikel:aid=3527646

    I have been thinking about this thread ever since early this morning. I had one main thought - why - why, is it that the word DEATH has to be the response. LH just expressed my concern much better than I could have.

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    I have not seen the cartoons so I can't comment to much about
    them, but if I understand, any picture of Muhammud whould have been
    seen as an insult.

    I did think this comment was a something that Muslims should think
    over.

    "Muslims of the world be reasonable," wrote editor Jihad Momani.

    "What brings more prejudice against Islam, these caricatures or pictures of a hostage-taker slashing the throat of his victim in front of the cameras or a suicide bomber who blows himself up during a wedding ceremony in Amman"
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