Kids? Dogs? Kids? Dogs? Kids??? DOGS!!!!

[RICHARD]

Hotel bans kids, allows dogs

A top hotel in an upmarket Austrian resorts has slapped a ban on young children - but is still letting in dogs.

Hotel Cortisen owner Roland Ballner, 38, said the children were always badly behaved and invariably more trouble than they were worth.

He claimed bookings had flooded in since he promised to kick out kids under the age of 12 from May next year.

But he added that dogs would still be allowed as they were far better trained and didnt vandalise his hotel like children did.

His property is in one of the best locations on the St. Wolfgang, near Gmunden, on the Wolfgangsee lake.

He said: "My guests have a right to quiet and relaxation without the noise of children.

"In most cases where they are badly behaved though the parents are to blame, they seem to feel they are here to relax and wash their hands of their children's bad behaviour."

Ballner said he had invested 2.5 million euros in his hotel and he could not tolerate "children drawing with felt-tipped pens on white leather couches" and other vandalism.

[christa]

He said: "My guests have a right to quiet and relaxation without the noise of children.

This takes me back to apartment life . . .

Close quarters . . . paper thin walls . . .very similar to a hotel type of situation.

I can think of 3 specific instances in which we either knocked on the neighbor's door or called the police because of a noise disturbance . . .

And it wasn't a kid that was being disturbing.



In either case, the parent/owner should be banned if they can't keep their kid/dog quiet enough to let the neighbors around them sleep.

This story is just all messed up!

[christa]

I will add . . . my SIL & her new husband went on their honeymoon to a resort in Mexico that didn't allow children under 18. But it was classified as a HONEYMOON DESTINATION. Which is understandable.

I think my problem with this guy is his attitude about it all. He could have went about it differently and defintiely made himself sound much classier and less like a jerk.

[Twisterdog]

I personally think having Child/Child-Free restaurants, hotels, etc. is a VERY good idea.

And, I have a child.

But knowing that if you don't have kids, or you DO have kids and want a night or a week out away from your kids ... and other people's kids ... that you know where to go would be very nice. Also, when my son was younger, he was not always perfectly behaved in public (NO child is!), and I was sometimes humiliated by his behavior, and subjected to nasty looks from those without kids. It would have been nice to be somewhere where I knew everyone else there also had a child, and could understand and empathise.

I do think, too, that a lot of people don't use common sense and/or common courtesy with kids. For example, if you eat at McDonalds, I think you'd better assume it is going to be full of kids. Don't like kids? Go through the drive-through or eat somewhere else. Conversely, I don't think small children belong in very nice restaurants. If everyone there is in suit and tie, and it candlelit ... best leave the kids with a sitter. Common sense, right? But soooo many people don't seem to get it. Same with hotels: When my son and I went to Las Vegas when he was small, we stayed at Circus Circus ... with 10,000 other families with small kids. When we went back the next time, and he was a teenager, we stayed at the Luxor ... because he was old enough to behave like an adult. Common sense.

[G.P.girl]

Hmm....it makes sense to me. if kids are tearing up the hotel and dogs arent...why not ban the kids. and theres no reason to ban dogs just because kids cant behave. i would stay there

[PJ's Mom]

I like the idea. It's about time someone came up with something like this.

[Logan]

Conversely, I don't think small children belong in very nice restaurants. If everyone there is in suit and tie, and it candlelit ... best leave the kids with a sitter. Common sense, right? But soooo many people don't seem to get it.

Amen, Twisterdog! I'm a mother, too, and on a rare occasion, my husband and I get to go out to dinner at a nice restaurant, without the kids. Just this past Saturday night, we did just that, and instead of a quiet dinner, we had people next to our table with a whiney, young child, who had no business being out that late (should have been in bed) who disturbed our entire meal, and everyone else in the restaurant. We overheard the mother say to the father, "this is the last time we take him out in public". Well, so good of you to realize, lady, that your child, and YOU, ruined a lot of people's dinner. We weren't at Ryan's steakhouse. We were at an expensive restaurant. I can't imagine! I would have picked him up and walked out, had it been me. And I did do that when my child was young, but it didn't take but about twice for me to realize that there were some places she didn't need to go until she was older.

As for the hotel guy, good for him. He's a businessman and he obviously has learned what it takes for his hotel to be successful. I am not offended in the least.

Logan