People Creating New Breeds Grrrr!

[Pam]

I was just leisurely looking over this morning's newspaper (didn't get to it in the morning ). Anyway, I always go to the "Dogs for Sale" ads and I shouldn't because I usually come away sad. Today I came away sad and angry. Someone is selling a litter of puppies called Golden Doodles. Are you ready for the price tags on these pupsters? $900 for females and $800 for males.

Now I personally happen to be very fond of poodles and golden retrievers. In fact I think they are both extraordinary breeds and rank high up there on my *favorites* list. (And believe me my list is long!) The thing that galls me is that someone has taken it upon themselves to mix these two wonderful breeds and come up with a dog that has no breed standard with which to conform and they are asking a ridiculous price as well. Pardon me but this ad just smacks of "I want to make some quick money." Of course many of the ads in this section of the paper are back yard breeders, however my wonderful RB poodle, Whitney, came through a responsible and respected breeder and I found her through an ad. Maybe that is why I still visit this section of the paper. *sigh*

I think what is making me so mad is that people are creating mixed breeds while the shelters are full of them, and these so- called breeders have no earthly idea what they are doing. Although I want these puppies to find loving forever homes, I hope that no one is foolhardy enough to pay the price they are asking so that this might encourage this person/persons to do this again. I think the higher price for the females means that they expect that people will breed the females and, in turn, make a few bucks so they want a piece of the pie. Maybe I am over-reacting but this just made me sick and I had to vent.

[Tollers-n-Dobes]

I HATE it too Golden doodles and Labradoodles have been around for a while now though. They actually have a purpose in Australia and were bred for a specific reason but now back yard breeders are breeding them and sellin them for way too much money.

[lute]

i totally understand! i don't get how people can do that!

i have seen a LONG list of *breeds* like this.
labradoodle (lab/poodle)
puggle (pug/beagle)
maltipoo (maltese/poodle)
bichpoo (bichon/poodle)
boxerdoodle (boxer/poodle)
cairnoodle (cairn terrier/poodle)
chipoo (chihuahua/poodle)
cockapoo (cockerspaniel/poodle)
daisy dog (bichon/poodle/shih tzu)
doodleman pinscher (doberman/poodle)
english boodle (english bulldog/poodle)
lhasapoo (lhasa apso/poodle)
papoo (papillon/poodle)
pekepoo (pekingese/poodle)
pomapoo (pomerainian/poodle)
pugapoo (pug/poodle)
schnoodle (schnauzer/poodle)
shepadoodle (german shep/poodle)
weimerdoodle (weimaraner/poodle)
yorkiepoo (yorkshire terrier/poodle)


i'm sure there are more. these are just the few that i know of.

[senorita02]

That is just absurd! A golden doodle, i think i have seen one before and it is very cute but all dogs are cute, these people should be banned pretending to create a new breed, and making that much $$ for it!

[GoldenRetrLuver]

You're not overreacting at ALL, Pam!

I've seen them over here too. It's VERY sad and frustrating. Too many irresponsible people in the world. *sigh*

I know with Guide Dogs of America they breed Goldens and Poodles together to be used as Guide Dogs. They combine the Golden Retriever's personality, and the Poodle's hypoallergenic coat.

[wolflady]

I agree with you 100%, Pam. It's just rediculous what people like this are doing, and probably worse, are the people that buy into it!! It's stupid!
They sell mix breed puppies (along with the masses of puppy mill puppies) at one of our small local pet stores here at extremely high prices, and people buy them! I don't see why people would do that, when there are perfectly good mixed breeds (not to mention pure breeds)at our local shelter

[Shelteez2]

Originally posted by GoldenRetrLuver
You're not overreacting at ALL, Pam!

I've seen them over here too. It's VERY sad and frustrating. Too many irresponsible people in the world. *sigh*

I know with Guide Dogs of America they breed Goldens and Poodles together to be used as Guide Dogs. They combine the Golden Retriever's personality, and the Poodle's hypoallergenic coat.

Do you know if guide dogs of America is doing a proper breeding program like is being followed in Australia? Just curious.


We groom a couple of golden doodles. But that's all I'll say about them.

[BCBlondie]

Originally posted by lute
i totally understand! i don't get how people can do that!

i have seen a LONG list of *breeds* like this.
labradoodle (lab/poodle)
puggle (pug/beagle)
maltipoo (maltese/poodle)
bichpoo (bichon/poodle)
boxerdoodle (boxer/poodle)
cairnoodle (cairn terrier/poodle)
chipoo (chihuahua/poodle)
cockapoo (cockerspaniel/poodle)
daisy dog (bichon/poodle/shih tzu)
doodleman pinscher (doberman/poodle)
english boodle (english bulldog/poodle)
lhasapoo (lhasa apso/poodle)
papoo (papillon/poodle)
pekepoo (pekingese/poodle)
pomapoo (pomerainian/poodle)
pugapoo (pug/poodle)
schnoodle (schnauzer/poodle)
shepadoodle (german shep/poodle)
weimerdoodle (weimaraner/poodle)
yorkiepoo (yorkshire terrier/poodle)


i'm sure there are more. these are just the few that i know of.

Another one is Aussiedoodle (australian shepherd/poodle)

Purposely mixing breeds like this makes me so angry!!

[Tollers-n-Dobes]

Originally posted by lute
i totally understand! i don't get how people can do that!

i have seen a LONG list of *breeds* like this.
labradoodle (lab/poodle)
puggle (pug/beagle)
maltipoo (maltese/poodle)
bichpoo (bichon/poodle)
boxerdoodle (boxer/poodle)
cairnoodle (cairn terrier/poodle)
chipoo (chihuahua/poodle)
cockapoo (cockerspaniel/poodle)
daisy dog (bichon/poodle/shih tzu)
doodleman pinscher (doberman/poodle)
english boodle (english bulldog/poodle)
lhasapoo (lhasa apso/poodle)
papoo (papillon/poodle)
pekepoo (pekingese/poodle)
pomapoo (pomerainian/poodle)
pugapoo (pug/poodle)
schnoodle (schnauzer/poodle)
shepadoodle (german shep/poodle)
weimerdoodle (weimaraner/poodle)
yorkiepoo (yorkshire terrier/poodle)


i'm sure there are more. these are just the few that i know of.

There's also the Bichon/shih-tzu They're probably the most popular breed in my city. It's pathetic.

[wolfie]

I agree there are so many homeless pets in this world. And sadly females are probably more expensive because they think that someone might breed her, and make a buck off it. It's really sad.

and the rest isn't aimed at you Pam , I'm just wondering out loud...

Aren't there purebreds in shelters too? Shouldn't it be outrageous that people breed purebreds, and then charge close to $1000 for puppies? I don't understand the double standard for breeders of mixes vs. purebreds.

And isn't it entirely possible that a breeder of mixes could be very responsible? Health test all their pups, show them in obedience ect, temperament test them, have a spay/neuter contract with buyers, screen homes, ect ect. If this person was breeding purebreds people would say they were responsible, but if they're breeding mixes they aren't?

And just for the record, I think everyone should get a dog from the pound! There are way to many homeless dogs to breed more.

[binka_nugget]

Originally posted by wolfie
Aren't there purebreds in shelters too? Shouldn't it be outrageous that people breed purebreds, and then charge close to $1000 for puppies? I don't understand the double standard for breeders of mixes vs. purebreds.

And isn't it entirely possible that a breeder of mixes could be very responsible? Health test all their pups, show them in obedience ect, temperament test them, have a spay/neuter contract with buyers, screen homes, ect ect. If this person was breeding purebreds people would say they were responsible, but if they're breeding mixes they aren't?

And just for the record, I think everyone should get a dog from the pound! There are way to many homeless dogs to breed more.

I guess I understand where you're coming from. Kaedyn's a purebred and he came from the pound.

I think the only reason anyone should breed is to keep the breed alive. As much as I love mixes, they have no standard so the only thing the breeder could be breeding for is for a "nice" temperment. "Nice" temperments are great but there are already many dogs with "nice" temperments in the pounds. And "nice" defined by one person may differ from someone else's definition of "nice". So I guess my opinion is yes, people who breed mixes can do all the same things as a purebred breeder but I still wouldn't support the idea because they're breeding for something that so many shelter dogs already have.

[dappledoxie]

I agree Ashley. I think there are so many great dogs at the pound, but at the same time I do feel that the breeders who really know what they are doing need to breed and sell dogs with limited registrations so that the breeds do stay around, it's just one of those things I think. lol

Oh and about the mixing breeds thing, I do think that is very unnecessary, I mean, there's like 300+ breeds, why do we need more?

[manda99]

I kind of agree with the anger here...
When I found out my sister was getting a Puggle I was turned off. When she said they talked to a few Puggle breeders I was still turned off. When she told me they finally got one from a pet store I was even more skeptical ....
But then again, at least this dog has a good home and a lot of love and will get any medical attention he needs.
And I can only hope that they become more educated, as I have, and recognize shelter dogs need adoption and love, too.

[rusticnature]

It's ridiculous! There are way to many homeless, starving and unwanted dogs in the world without stupid selfcentered ppl breeding more! they only want the money. But it's hard though, as much as you don't want to buy one of these dogs and support the back-yard breeders by giving them money, whats gonna happen to the poor dogs if no one buys them. I mean they're alive now. They need a home and affection too.
My Chinese Crested Powder Puff, Bella, came from a rescue centre, she'd been abandoned by careless owners, probably because she has a heart murmer. She now lives a happy life. Everyone should get pets who really need owners.

[Uabassoon]

whats gonna happen to the poor dogs if no one buys them. I mean they're alive now. They need a home and affection too.

I know it's sad to think of what will happen to these dogs if no one adopts them. What's sadder though is that for everyone of these dogs that is sold another puppy will just replace it. If people keep buying them then back yard breeders will just continue the cycle. In the long run it's better for these dogs to not get sold and stop many generations of puppy mill and back yard puppies from being born.