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    Bias on Fox News???

    Isn't it difficult to know what to believe in nowadays! There may or may not be a "smoking gun" in this particular case, but I certainly find the pattern distasteful.
    Unfortunately we are also getting more and more of this (cheap news, ranting and raving, pseudo-patriotism!) in Europe too.
    So who should we believe? Fox News? Michael Moore? Tony Blair's spin doctor? It's all sooooo confusing isn't it!

    At least it's nice to know that there are still people around who are prepared to question these issues and document them.


    Documentary Aims to Show Bias on Fox News
    By FRAZIER MOORE

    NEW YORK (AP) - A new documentary backed by liberal political groups aims to document that the Fox News Channel is anything but "fair and balanced,'' despite the cable-news network's motto.

    The film, "Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism,'' draws on clips compiled during weeks of round-the-clock taping of the network to demonstrate what the filmmakers believe is a pattern of right-wing bias and support for the Republican agenda.

    "What we found is not that Fox is a conservative network, but that it's a network that follows the party line of the Bush administration,'' said "Outfoxed'' filmmaker Robert Greenwald, a Hollywood producer-director whose credits include the 2003 documentary "Uncovered: The Whole Truth About the Iraq War'' and such TV films as "The Crooked E: The Unshredded Truth about Enron'' and "Blonde,'' a biopic of Marilyn Monroe.

    Greenwald said he decided to make the film after hearing numerous journalists refer to the "Foxification'' of the news. That approach, he says, has served the 8-year-old Fox News Channel well, and "put pressure on many of the other networks to move in the same direction: cheap news, ranting and raving, pseudo-patriotism.''

    Greenwald's 75-minute film includes complaints from several Fox News staffers about the workplace climate at the outlet of the global Murdoch media empire. They say their bosses promote a conservative slant.
    "We weren't necessarily, as it was told to us, a newsgathering organization so much as we were a proponent of a point of view,'' says Jon Du Pre, a former Fox News correspondent.

    The film also quotes internal memos from a top network executive that seem to call for pro-Bush coverage.
    "Ribbons or medals? Which did John Kerry throw away after he returned from Vietnam?'' wrote senior vice president for news John Moody in an April memo to the staff. "His perceived disrespect for the military could be more damaging to the (Democratic presidential) candidate than questions about his actions in uniform.''

    In a statement Monday, the network dismissed the whistleblowers as "former low-level Fox employees'' who are "hardly worth addressing.'' It challenged other media organizations to make public their own employee memos, whereupon "Fox News Channel will publish 100 percent of our editorial directions and memos, and let the public decide who is fair.''

    The film also draws on a study commissioned by Fairness & Accuracy in Media, a national media watchdog group. The study found conservatives accounted for nearly three-fourths of ideological guests on the network's marquee news program, "Special Report with Brit Hume,'' between June and December 2003, and that Republicans outnumbered Democrats five to one.

    "Outfoxed'' was compiled during the past seven months in association with liberal political organizations Center for American Progress and MoveOn.Org, as well as the citizens' lobbying group Common Cause.

    Budgeted at $300,000, the "guerrilla'' documentary will premiere Tuesday at the New School University in Manhattan, then initially be distributed through private "house party'' screenings and DVD sales.
    At a news conference to introduce the film Monday, Greenwald called Fox News Channel "an opinion station, not a news station.''

    When former White House terrorism coordinator Richard Clarke testified before the 9-11 commission, he apologized to the American people for the government's failure to protect them.
    The film displays a flurry of Fox pundits blasting Clarke, often in similar terms. "It was almost like Fox News was working off of the playbook coming out of the White House, that he had to be torn down,'' FAIR co-founder Jeff Cohen says in the film.

    Fox host Bill O'Reilly is seen on his show insisting he has told a guest to shut up "only once in six years,'' after which he is seen in clips telling one person after another with whom he disagrees to "shut up.''

    The documentary also includes a rapid-fire succession of clips of more than a dozen Fox hosts using the phrase "some people say'' - which the filmmakers say is a way to insinuate opinion disguised as reporting into on-air discussions.

    "There's no smoking gun,'' Greenwald admitted in explaining what his film set out to reveal - "just a pattern.''

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    That's why I read two or three different newspapers daily (or at least try to check out their Web sites), switch between TV news stations including the BBC and have two all-news radio stations in my truck. Then I enjoy having "lively" discussions among my co-workers, family and some acquaintances. Sometimes I really have to watch my mouth though, my tongue can get rather acidic when I'm riled or encounter really stupid people

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    Bottom line, Jonza, is that we probably have to make up our own minds about politics, especially, in this country, and not let the media swing us one way or the other. Fox is just about the only network that is considered "conservative". I suppose a documentary could be made about NBC, CBS, ABC or CNN with the exact opposite slant!!!

    Guess which one I prefer to watch?

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    I think that most of the network news and my local paper are also biased. Sometimes it is rediculous to hear all of the opinions they present as "news."

    My worry is that many people don't listen with a "critical ear" and that they just accept it as fact.
    Oreo and Molly

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    As long as news is presented by people it will be biased. For example, I was listening to a CBS all news radio station the other day. They were reporting on the issue of the words "Under God" in the pledge. They referred to the man who brought the case as "a self-described atheist." I have never heard anyone referred to as a "self-described Baptist" or a "self-described Muslim." Who else is qualifed to describe one's beliefs? Subtle, but definitely bias.

    I am reading a book about the Kennedy administration. They were masters of manipulating the press -- as is the current administration. They use access. If a news organization prints something that displeases the administration, they give the next scoop to a rival news group. There is a reason that Press Secretary and Spin Doctor positions exist.

    And, at the end of the day, news organizations are "for profit." To "sell" they need access...to the latest, most confidential, most exciting, sexiest, most explosive. And what feels good. Read the thread in General and see how many don't read newspapers because they are too "depressing."

    News organizations are "big business" and which side is "big business" usually on?

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    Well, all of the other news channels are left wing, so maybe pick one other and watch both. Go somewhere down the middle and you'll find the truth!

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    Originally posted by sirrahved
    Well, all of the other news channels are left wing, so maybe pick one other and watch both. Go somewhere down the middle and you'll find the truth!
    I completely agree!

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    Liberal
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    Secular................
    all will be out in full force during the Conventions. All will be represented by their own media buddies ad nauseum.....Isn't THAT going to be a zoo!

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    Originally posted by DJFyrewolf36
    Better get the hip-waders and a shovel...
    Amen to that!

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    Well, I'm certainly glad that I don't have to make a choice in November. But I wouldn't be very good at it, as I never had the chance to vote in any national election until I was nearly 50, due to my moving around.

    So - it's a question of Bush, (who I don't like at all), or this one:

    "We've got a better sense of what's happening in America, and we've got better hair." - Senator John Kerry on why people should vote for him and John Edwards


    Wow! Some choice!

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    Granted, the hair remark was silly but I think that was his own attempt to appear "loose". He was getting a lot of flack about his stoney, aloof demeanor and had probably received some advise to show a "just a regular guy" attitude. At least the comment was harmless, unlike some comments I've heard the uh, er other guy make.

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    Originally posted by Edwina's Secretary
    As long as news is presented by people it will be biased.
    Isn't that the truth! I do like Fox's little line "we report, you decide." That's the bottom line. We all must decide for ourselves. My hubby says the REAL news never makes it to the news anyway. Who knows what goes on behind the scenes that we never hear about.

    Gotta say, though, that I do love Bill O'Reilly and try not to miss The Factor.

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    News organizations are "big business" and which side is "big business" usually on?
    This something that baffles me, Sara. I've always "heard" that new organizations are much more slanted to the "left" (Liberal politics). Big business is usually associated with right wing conservatives. Do you think differently? I really don't watch the news or read the newspaper enough to know this for a fact, and conservative as I am, I still will switch the channel to "4" to watch the Today show when Scott isn't in the room (otherwise, we always watch Fox and Friends in the mornings). Most of my news comes off the internet, lately, and you can get any slant you want from there!! LOL!!!

    Logan

  15. Logan, that is just it. You always "hear" that the press is slanted left but where are the examples? There are as many of the right as of the left. I believe it is like one of my favorite definitions....the difference between major surgery and minor surgery? Major surgery is something I have, minor surgery is something you have. If I am to the left I see a right slant and if I am to the right, I see a left slant!

    I don't watch much tv and especially not talking heads tv. I prefer my news in print where there is less emotion. But I also believe news organizations go with what sells. After all...they have stockholders to satisfy (and I may be one of them!)

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