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    Court to Hear Case to Reopen Roe V. Wade

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    Court to Hear Case to Reopen Roe V. Wade
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    By LISA FALKENBERG, Associated Press Writer


    DALLAS - A federal appeals court has agreed to hear a request from the woman formerly known as "Jane Roe" to reconsider the 1973 U.S. Supreme Court (news - web sites) decision Roe v. Wade (news - web sites) that legalized abortion.

    Norma McCorvey, who joined with anti-abortion activists nearly 10 years ago, is seeking to have the decision overturned, citing what she says is more than 30 years of evidence that abortions are psychologically harmful to women.

    A federal district judge threw out her initial request in June, saying it was not made within a reasonable time. But the New Orleans-based 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals (news - web sites) has agreed to hear McCorvey's arguments March 2.

    "It's something that I've wanted ever since Day One, and it's happening," McCorvey said from her Dallas home.

    Dallas County District Attorney Bill Hill, whose predecessor Henry Wade who was named in the original lawsuit, has not filed a response to McCorvey's appeal. That may put the appeals court in the unusual position of hearing arguments from only one side.

    Wade was named in the original case because he was charged with enforcing the Texas law that prevented McCorvey from having an abortion. Hill's office has argued that since that law no longer exists, Hill has no authority to prosecute and should not be sued.

    More than 20 Texas law school professors concerned about an unbalanced hearing filed a brief Wednesday asking to be allowed to argue the other side of the case.

    "It's important that the court hear from somebody representing the position that the district court took, which I think is clearly right," said David Schenck, a lawyer representing the professors. "At this point, the case is moot, and she's presenting at best a political question."

    The Supreme Court decision came after McCorvey had her baby. The baby was the third child McCorvey put up for adoption; she was a 21-year-old carnival worker at the time.

    She publicly identified herself as Jane Roe in 1980.

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    She's gotten older and wiser now. All I can say is good for her!! There are countless studies regarding how emotionally damaging abortions are to the mothers. Realistically, I doubt the ruling will get overturned after this much time, () but I think it's fantastic that she's putting forth an effort. Perhaps at the very least this will help to educate the general population about the emotional consequences of taking the life of a child.
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    Look at http://www.imnotsorry.net/ for proof to the contrary. I don't feel that I am emotionally damaged or traumatized in any way for my experience, and many of the people I've talked to felt the same way.

    Removing a zygote from your body that has the potential to ruin the rest of your life in many ways is drastically different from killing a child IMO.

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    Originally posted by WolfChan
    Removing a zygote from your body that has the potential to ruin the rest of your life in many ways is drastically different from killing a child IMO.
    It never ceases to amaze me that people who who will fight for all kinds of animal issues, draw the line when it comes to fighting for the rights of the unborn human child.

    A 'zygote' has all of the DNA it will ever need to become a human being. We do not have the right to end its life. There are countless childless couples who would give their all for the chance at being parents. Someone who doesn't want to be 'bothered' with their 'zygote' need just look for them. Believe me they are there! That child need not 'ruin' anyone's life but has the chance of being the biggest blessing that the childless couple could ever have.

    Sorry for being rude but this is one issue that just burns me up. Wake up people. We have been killing tiny innocent humans for too long!

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    I don't feel that I am emotionally damaged or traumatized in any way for my experience.
    I'm with you WolfChan. My experience also never left me traumatized or emotionally scarred.

    I think that trying to get Roe vs. Wade reversed is like beating (pardon the pun) a dead horse.

    In my opinion, if you don't like abortion, DON'T HAVE ONE!!! It is every woman's right to decide what she can and cannot do with her own body.

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    Originally posted by Pam
    It never ceases to amaze me that people who who will fight for all kinds of animal issues, draw the line when it comes to fighting for the rights of the unborn human child.

    A 'zygote' has all of the DNA it will ever need to become a human being. We do not have the right to end its life. There are countless childless couples who would give their all for the chance at being parents. Someone who doesn't want to be 'bothered' with their 'zygote' need just look for them. Believe me they are there! That child need not 'ruin' anyone's life but has the chance of being the biggest blessing that the childless couple could ever have.

    Sorry for being rude but this is one issue that just burns me up. Wake up people. We have been killing tiny innocent humans for too long!
    Have to agree with you, Pam. I've never wanted children, so I just never got pregnant.

    I knew I didn't want kids, but I also knew I couldn't murder a child (or what some people call a 'zygote', which is at the very least a potential child).

    BTW - I began having sex at a very early teen age and was responsible enough to prevent an unwanted pregnancy even then! Surely it's easier to carry a condom or take a pill every day, than to have a very invasive medical prcedure done!

    Before you even start in on me people, I'm not talking about anyone who was raped or molested. I'm not sure how I feel about that, as I've never been in that position.

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    Originally posted by moosmom

    In my opinion, if you don't like abortion, DON'T HAVE ONE!!! It is every woman's right to decide what she can and cannot do with her own body.
    I couldn't agree with you more Donna!!
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    Originally posted by micki76
    BTW - I began having sex at a very early teen age and was responsible enough to prevent an unwanted pregnancy even then! Surely it's easier to carry a condom or take a pill every day, than to have a very invasive medical prcedure done!

    Before you even start in on me people, I'm not talking about anyone who was raped or molested. I'm not sure how I feel about that, as I've never been in that position. [/B]
    What about manipulated by someone who you've been in a long-term relationship with? Having someone try to "force" you to marry them at sixteen by popping a condom? I personally feel that's rape.

    It astonishes me that with 6.4 billion people in the world we don't concentrate more on the fact that we have reached the water usage capacity of earth, and in some places we're still growing exponentially.

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    Originally posted by WolfChan
    What about manipulated by someone who you've been in a long-term relationship with? Having someone try to "force" you to marry them at sixteen by popping a condom? I personally feel that's rape.

    It astonishes me that with 6.4 billion people in the world we don't concentrate more on the fact that we have reached the water usage capacity of earth, and in some places we're still growing exponentially.
    To the first part, they were using a condom. Yes, that's another "different" situation of which I have no first hand knowledge, and no real strong opinion on. That is obviously manipulation, but rape? No, more like forced insemination. The woman would be a willing participant in the act, so it's not rape or sexual assault. Is it wrong? Yes!

    To the other part of your comment, so should people stop reproducing? I don't even understand what this comment has to do with abortion.

    Should anyone who gets pregnant have an abortion because we're using up the water supply?

    Sorry, I just don't even understand what that has to do with the topic at hand.

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    I have too many friends who can't have children and WANT them . Adoption was the only option for my folks after having me (Iwasn't suppose to be either) I think it is very selfish to think only of your self, i almost was a surrigate for a freind .They luckly found and were able to adopt a child of their ethnic past.
    If 3 women I know had not been brave and care enough my pastor and his wife would not have the 3 lovely boys they have now.
    I also do not apoligise for my feelings! I was on the pill both times with my 2 children it is not 100% no matter what you do. I wasn't ready to have kids didn't even know if I wanted them, but i wouldn't trade them for the world. I can't say that given the chose that I would not have had them later I don't know.
    So me people shouldn't be parents ,but a lot who should can't . I think the first lession in Kindergarden should apply. SHARE!!!!!

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    I have never had children, never wanted children, and never will have children. I have also never been pregnant. For me, I would not have an abortion (I don't think), however, it's not my business what other women choose to do. I have a huge problem with trying to legislate morality. My view is that if you don't want an abortion or believe that it's wrong...don't have one, but, do not invade someone else's privacy and tell them what they can and can't do with their body.

    Sorry, but, this is a really touchy subject with me because I don't want people to tell me what to do with my body, so I don't think anyone should be able to tell anybody what they can do with their body. I get REALLY angry about the whole thing, so I'm trying to be really careful what I say.


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    Wow, what a topic.

    I think abortion/conception is too complicated an issue for black and white slogans. That's why I'm pro-choice.

    As some of you may know, I'm an epileptic. For some years I was on a combination of medicine for it. I was seventeen when I was put on them. At the age of 20, Sam and I found out that I was several weeks late for my period. I mentioned this to my neurologist at my appointment. She immediately sent for blood and urine tests. Turns out the medicine I was on "scrambled" fetuses. She told me that if I was pregnant, my fetus would be disfigured beyond all recognition. It wouldn't have a complete spine or limbs. She said that in her opinion, I'd have no real choice but to abort. Thankfully, the tests came back negative.

    After that, I stopped taking the medicine. I would rather have a seizure than create a child so mangled and in pain that it would require an abortion.

    That really brought home the whole issue of abortion for me. Before that, I'd never thought I'd be capable of having an abortion. I didn't and still don't want to make that decision for any other woman. It's a decision between her, her partner, and their doctor. I don't think anyone ever takes abortion lightly, and I think it's wrong for other people to judge you until they have been in your position.

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    My view is that if you don't want an abortion or believe that it's wrong...don't have one, but, do not invade someone else's privacy and tell them what they can and can't do with their body.
    Exactly Molly! The decision was right for me in MY case. Every case is different. Would I do it again? Probably not. But at the time, that was the only option for me. I'm just glad that the choice was mine and the option was there.

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    IMHO,Frankly, the Roe V. Wade decision was one of the worst supreme court decisions ever, ranking right up there with the Derd Scott case in judicial idiocy. It was a power grad by the federal bench, plain and simple. The federal government has no place in the case, as the 10th amendment is very clear on where the power over issues not clearly delineated in the constitution lies.

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    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

    Very simply, Roe V wade should never have been accepted by the courts.

    (Okay, let the barrage begin)

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