siberian huskies???

[tikeyas_mom]

what is the deal with sibes? Why are some of them born with long coats like Anna and Tikeya, and others are born with short coats like Nebo and Roxey??




Short coated NEBO:



Long Coated TIKEYA:

[Kfamr]

Who knows. Maybe it has to do with grooming?

[tikeyas_mom]

i dought it, i know that long haired siberian huskies are caused by a throw back in the generation of pups, or a gene mix up. they are not a commenly seen, but long coated sibes have loooong hair way longer then Tikeyas and Annas. I brush tikeya all the time and her hair alwasy stays the same length?? humm..

[Kfamr]

Maybe it's just gene's then. Although I do remember Amy saying Nebo's parent's had longer fur than him.

Sort of like some babies are born with lots of hair, other's aren't.

[tikeyas_mom]

that very well could be, ever site i go to with siberian huskies they all look like anna and Tikeya, if i goto a racing site they have huskies that look like nebo and roxey.. weired.

[Kfamr]

Coat
The coat of the Siberian Husky is double and medium in length, giving a well-furred appearance, but is never so long as to obscure the clean-cut outline of the dog. The undercoat is soft and dense and of sufficient length to support the outer coat. The guard hairs of the outer coat are straight and somewhat smooth-lying, never harsh nor standing straight off from the body. It should be noted that the absence of the undercoat during the shedding season is normal Trimming of whiskers and fur between the toes and around the feet to present a neater appearance is permissible. Trimming the fur on any other part of the dog is not to be condoned and should be severely penalized. Faults: Long, rough, or shaggy coat; texture too harsh or too silky; trimming of the coat, except as permitted above.

Taken from SHCA

[tikeyas_mom]

that still doesnt explain it.

[Kfamr]

Never said it did, it explains how it's "supposed" to be.

[tikeyas_mom]

ok... well so tikeya, anna, and roxey and nebo are all the same breed with different coat types?? hum.. doesnt make sence, because wouldent they be known as different coat types? example, smooth fox terrier and wire hair fox terriers??

[shais_mom]

I think there are a lot of breeds like that.
Golden Retrievers, some have really long hair and others are so short haired they look like labs.

[wolf_Q]

Here's a page with some siberian husky photos

http://www.huskycolors.com/rescue.html

Show dogs have a tendency to have a thicker coat, especially more around the neck, but the coat never obscures the clean-cut outline of the body. The majority of those dog's coats look more like Nebo's/Roxey's to me.

Here's a page specifically on the coat

http://www.kossok.com/sibes/info/analysis/coat.htm

Here's another photo of Nebo...



Nebo's mother...it's hard to tell in the photos, but her coat is defintely thicker and considerably longer around the neck.


Here's his father..

that very well could be, ever site i go to with siberian huskies they all look like anna and Tikeya, if i goto a racing site they have huskies that look like nebo and roxey.. weired.

When we were looking at pups we looked at a litter of racing line huskies. I looked at Nebo's litter the same day. The racing pups coats were much much thinner...they also lacked the color and facial mask. Also they were psycho! I've never seen more HYPER puppies!

Nebo's coat is pretty short for a siberian husky, and he also has fairly long legs. I still wouldn't call him a racing line husky, nor a show line husky. He's just a Nebo husky.

Tikeya and Anna are defintely *not* long-haired huskies (woolies). I've seen woolies, and their coats are much much longer. I would just classify them as a medium length coat.

Grooming really would not make a difference in the length of the guard hairs, but it does in the thickness of the coat. You can't tell from pics but the guard hairs at the base of Nebo's neck are really quite long, they just lay pretty flat. His coat is very soft and plush, and it's thinner on his sides...thicker on his back/neck/tail. I know his coat would look/feel thicker if I'd stop obsessively brushing him...but I like his coat the way it is.

No matter which coat is technically correct, they are all beautiful!

[pit chic]

Maybe Nebo has some racing line in his pedigree. I've seen other examples of different looking coats in the same breed.

http://www.workingpitbull.com/amstaffpit.htm

It mostly talks about the differences in Pit Bulls and AmStaffs, but at the bottom of the page it shows the differences in show bred English Setters and field working English Setters, as well as Huskies.

The show bred Setters are bred to look pretty while the working Setters are bred for their working abilities rather than a pretty coat. Before the AKC came into play, a lot of our breeds probably weren't as pretty as they are now.

[tikeyas_mom]

Tikeyas dad was a woolie, he has very long hair, they shouldnt have bred him because I have read that it isnt good to breed woolies. ?? tikeyas mom was a smooth coated like Nebo andf roxey, she was pure white ..

here is another pic of Tikeya

[pit chic]

If the woolie is a fualt or disqualifying feature in the breed, then no Tikeya's dad shouldn't have been bred. He would have been disqualified in the show ring, but of course, when the AKC doesn't put stricter regulations on their registries, people are free to breed whatever they want and claim AKC registry in an attempt to make money. It's really sad that it's like that.

I was reading a dog magazine talking about dog clubs in Germany. People have to put their dogs through all sorts of trials and tests and pass before they can breed their dogs. Maybe if the AKC would follow suite to the German dog clubs we might not have so many unscrupulous breeders out there creating more problems.

[Glacier]

Huskies can have varying coat lengths, within a small range. However, a woolie coat is a disqualification, so no Tikeya's dad should never have been used as a breeder. Responsible Husky breeders are working very hard to eleminate the woolie gene. The reason is that a woolie coat makes it extremely difficult for a husky to work. Woolie coats hold snow, they don't insulate as well as the regular length coat. The dog can't work as sled dogs because they can't keep themselves dry and warm. A woolie coated husky can be in grave danger in cold conditions.