Depressed and angry

**COCatMama** · 11-03-2002, 06:57 PM

I spent over a month looking for a place to live that allows dogs. Nothing, nada, zip. Only one place that was an absolute dump and way too much money. I talked to everyone I could think of just about...called dozens of places...begged...pleaded
NOTHING!!! I think this blanket no pets policy everyone has just SUCKS ROCKS! it's like you have to be rich and own a house to have a freaking dog these days....So my bf and i decided I should stay a couple more months to see how 'thinks work out'. I would desperately love to have my own place where Juneau and I could be happy and safe....grrrrr. One thing is for darned sure, i will NOT give up my dog come heck or high water! I don't care if we have to live in my car!

**mugsy** · 11-03-2002, 07:09 PM

I don't know how it works in Canada, but here in the States, you can buy some houses with no money down and your house payments are generally less than rent and you start to earn equity in the house AND you can have your dog without paying a deposit!! Good luck in your search.

**boscibo** · 11-03-2002, 07:11 PM

The only really good solution is buy a house, but I have been in the same boat - trying to rent with a dog and two cats.

I looked for months...and I even weeded out a lot of places because the first question I would ask is "Do you allow pets?" I found a lot of places that would only allow the cats, or only cats or *small* dogs, so after that answer I would say "thanks, but no thanks" and say goodbye.

I finally found the perfect place - a farmhouse that was a couple hundred more a month than I wanted to pay, but I lost it when someone who had looked at the place before me rented it.

After some long and anxious months, I found a two bedroom condo that allowed all my pets.

It was still more expensive than I wanted to pay, but what could I do? Later, while I lived there, some irresponsible people who lived in a anorther unit (and had a bunch of dogs) did over $50,000 in damage, so the new renters were told "no pets allowed".

So that is what is ruining it for all of us responsible pet owners - people whose pets ruin rental units.

Now I live in a house, my BF owns it. So his two dogs, my dog, and our three cats live here, and nobody can tell us "no pets allowed.

**COCatMama** · 11-03-2002, 07:11 PM

any housing in the lower mainland of BC is veeeryyyyy expensive..you would pretty much need two incomes or a well-paying job. The annoying thing is I earn at least four dollars more an hour *salary* than min wage and my rental options are very limited. Geez

**COCatMama** · 11-03-2002, 07:17 PM

wow i am amazed you were able to find any rentals with all those animals ! I am getting a 'tude with the ppl being jerks about my dog. He is house broken, RARELY barks, good natured and yet all they will allow is small dogs (which face it, tend to bark) I used to have a smaller dog and boy when he wanted something he would YAP! it was piercing!

. My bf's mother recently got an American Eskimo, cute but crikey! the yap on that thing! it was enough to make your ears bleed

**slleipnir** · 11-03-2002, 07:38 PM

Urg, I know how you feel..My moms apt is all of a sudden not allowing pets, so my mom either has to move out, or get rid of our cat. But she can't find ANYWHERE..I really know how you feel, you kinda think ppl would have apt's just for ppl looking for a place to live like that, they'd def get the money..

**COCatMama** · 11-03-2002, 08:37 PM

um, I am pretty sure they CANNOT do that! did your mom sign a rental agreement stating she is allowed to have the cat???? make sure she has a copy of it! if she signed a document that says that the landlord CANNOT force her to leave because of the cat! At least, that is what I think.....PLEASE contact your local tenancy thingie they can tell you what your landlord is legally allowed to do.

**boscibo** · 11-03-2002, 09:07 PM

Yeah, Lalania, that is the way it worked when I rented my condo - people who already had pets were allowed to keep them (including me, and believe me, if anyone had told me I had to get rid of them or move, I would have raised heck), but *new* people who were coming in were told no pets.

I can't figure out either why some places only allow small dogs, but not big ones, the only thing I could figure is there is more liability with having the big ones. I know that even with homeowners insurance they won't cover you if you have certain "bad" breeds of dogs - and those are usually the larger breeds like Rotties and the like (I'm not saying Rotties are bad - it's just what the insurance companies think). We just had the insurance updater checking on our dogs a few months ago, luckily all three of our dogs are mutts. So when he asked what breeds we have, I just said mutts.

**COCatMama** · 11-03-2002, 09:11 PM

yeah my dog is a mutt too but they don't seem to care.
I wish i could just move back to my mom's as shameful as that would be, but they have a no big dogs policy there too!

**kingrattus** · 11-04-2002, 12:45 AM

I got lucky, I rent a nice room in a big condo & I get the run of the house, free food, free everything else & if I help the boys rake up the leaves I get $20.00 & so do they. I have most of my pets here, I decided it would be a bad idea to dring my dog here since they don't train their dogs, nor take them to the vet, unless the city of Ottawa (in Ontario Canada) makes them. But I left my dog with my dad so my dog is fairly happy. I only pay $225.00 per month. & hopefully I'll be reunited with my good old dog in a years time.

**shais_mom** · 11-04-2002, 01:01 AM

try
www.rentwithpets.com
or call the local humane society or shelter and ask them for pamphlets or referrals. You should be able to find an apartment rental book of some sort that will help you narrow it down.
I haven't encountered that problem b/c I just looked at apartments and my dad finally said "this is really stupid, you need to find something to buy." and lo and behold we found a TINY house with one bedroom,living room, kitchen, and bathroom and a 2 car garage, that I could afford. Most of my friends that have apartments are appalled at my house payment!!!! $250.00!!!! I moved in in June and my animals came after that!!

**Uabassoon** · 11-04-2002, 01:10 AM

luckily in Tucson most apartments let you have pets. But some have a small dog policy, and some have a 1 pet per room policy. So if you have a two bedroom you can have two pets and so on. The last apt. I lived in the manager that helped us fill out the paper work loved us and our cats that she didn't even charge us a pet depoit. But we still had to pay the $10 pet rent a month which wasn't that bad. I have a house now so I Corkscrew when I moved into the house.

**wolf_Q** · 11-04-2002, 01:36 AM

Originally posted by popcornbird
The reason, its a brand new 5 bedroom house that doesn't deserve to get dog poo and pee at this young age! We plan to live in it, so we don't want it smelling like dog poo or cat pee, although we did have cats negotiable. We just never got a cat family that showed up. Bird people were also negotiable and outdoor bunnies are welcome, if they remain outdoor. We had some dog families show up but we had to tell them we couldn't give the house to people with dogs. We do feel bad not giving it to them, but hey, its our house, and if we don't want dog pee on the carpets, its our right. Even the most trained dog or cat CAN have accidents.

Just wanted to state my opinion here. I have 3 dogs living in my house, and my house certainly does not smell like dog poo, it doesn't even smell like "dog" lol. Smokey is 16, and he often has accidents as he has some issues there with the old age. And of course Nebo had a couple of accidents when I was potty training him (although not much). They make products to take out the smell and clean it up nicely. Birds, cats and other pets can also have accidents. Of course it's obviously your right to not want dogs in the house, I just wanted to say that.....just because people have dogs in the house does not mean their house is going to be dirty and smelly....lol....course I suppose it doesn't mean that it wouldn't be either, but it would depend on the people...

And as far as the original topic, I'm very afraid of what to do if I want to move out. I would never leave my Nebo baby behind, and i know it's hard to find a place with what is considered a "big" dog. Oh well, I'll just have to deal with things as they come along.

**neko1** · 11-04-2002, 05:37 AM

My fiance and I had a lot of trouble finding an apt that would allow one declawed neutered cat!! I'd say about 90% of the apts here have no pet policies. But we finally found one and I ended up getting another cat-hehe (the landlord didn't know about the 2nd one). Now that we've bought a house (well 3 years ago), I have 4 cats and don't have to worry about anyone's rules!!! My friend just got an apt. She told the landlord she had 2 cats, but she really has 6 and a bunny and 2 canaries. Lucky for her, the landlord is an animal lover!

**Cataholic** · 11-04-2002, 05:42 AM

Originally posted by popcornbird

Don't mean it to be smelly or dirty. We don't want dog poo/pee in the carpet period whether it smells or not. We spent a lot of money on that carpet when we got the house built. Its a very high quality carpt, and we don't want any animal peeing in it, whether its a dog or a cat or a rabbit. Whatever. But especially a dog, because in my religion, dogs are considered impure and cannot be kept inside the house anyway. They can only be kept for guarding, helping the blind, or other neccesseties. Don't get me wrong, its very important in our religion to be kind to all animals including dogs, and to feed them and care for them if they are in your guardianship, etc., but their saliva, and of course poo and pee, are considered impure, so we wouldn't want them peeing in the house. Birds can have accidents, but they really don't "pee" or do anything that would soak into the carpet. Their "poop" is just like a little dot that gets cleaned just by touching it with a napkin................the whole thing transfers onto the napkin. LOL! If our house had a REALLY big yard and a room type of area to keep the dogs in, then there wouldn't be a problem, but as far as having dogs INSIDE the house, well, that's a big no no.

What religion is that? I must comment that it is interesting that the thred is about the difficulties in renting with pets, YOU (well, your family) had difficulties with it, initially, BUT, you then mention how you don't/won't let pets into the home you own....hmmmm...something seems contradictory here.