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    Arizona immigration law

    The new law in Arizona that authorizes police officers to stop suspected illegal immigrants for proof of citizenship is creating quite the buzz in Chicago. There was a demonstration for immigrant rights at the immigration and customs detention center.

    I think that if the police are stopping a person for another valid reason, and they have a legitimate suspicion that the person might be in the country illegally, then (and only then) they have a right to ask for proof of citizenship. But for them to be able to ask anyone, at any time, arbitrarily, to show proof - I think that's going too far. Chicago has a lot of Eastern European immigrants as well as lots of Spanish speakers - if stopped by police, would the Eastern European people be handled differently because they "look American"? I'm thinking this will become a Pandora's box on immigration.
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    Well, if the US government had kept it's promise to do something about illegal immigration, Arizona wouldn't be doing this. Since the gov built part of the promised fence but not all of it, illegals are coming in through Arizona. A rancher was recently killed on his own property by some of them. Legal citizens should not be killed and terrorized on their own property by folks who shouldn't be here.

    The US gov doesn't even enforce the laws it has passed.

    I don't blame Arizona, I blame our federgal Government.

    The only time they can ask for papers is if they have a legitimate reason to ask. They aren't going to round them up like cattle and drive them back across the border. Sad fact, is something does need to be done.

    Why should people who don't belong here have ANY rights of our country?
    If they want to apply for citizenship, that's wonderful. I'm all for it. As long as they come legally!

    If I stole someone's car and resold it, should I get off a jail sentence just because I contributed to the ecconomy by paying taxes with the money I earned from the sell of the car?

    I still think we should just have invaded Mexico and made them part of the US instead of messing around overseas.
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    The blame should be placed with the companies that hire illegals.
    The companies can keep more money by paying them less & paying
    no payroll taxes. It's win-win for the companies.

    It's hard to blame people who want to work & make a living for their
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    I don't blame them but wouldn't it be better to work legally and not have to live in fear all the time? I sure think it would. Is it that hard to get a green card to work here? I don't know. I'm just asking.
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    So, exactly what does an illegal immigrant look or sound like?

    The 14th amendment to the Constitution give the power to enforce immigration law to the federal government, not the states.

    If you want to impeach you congressional delegation for failing to uphold their oaths of office (refusing to enforce the law of the land in relation to immigration) then do so.

    Passing a patently unconstitutional law to try to fix something doesn't make it right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    The 14th amendment to the Constitution give the power to enforce immigration law to the federal government, not the states.

    If you want to impeach you congressional delegation for failing to uphold their oaths of office (refusing to enforce the law of the land in relation to immigration) then do so.

    Passing a patently unconstitutional law to try to fix something doesn't make it right.
    So, how does one go about impeaching the federal government? They are the ones not enforcing their own law to make it illegal for people to hire undocumented workers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    So, exactly what does an illegal immigrant look like?


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    It is difficult for an person from Mexico to get papers to work here legally, it costs money and takes time, often years. For unskilled workers, it is more difficult. Even skilled workers have to apply for a work visa and include information for an employer who has already hired them in the US. The employer has to do its part as well, and fill out certain forms.
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