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    Research on Dog Food & Information

    Recommend Books
    The BARF Diet by Ian Billinghurst

    Raw Dog Food: Make It Easy for you and your dog by Carina Beth MacDonald

    Dr Pitcairn's Complete Guide to Natural Health for Dogs & Cats by Dr Richard Pitcairn

    K9 by Monica Segal

    Natural Nutrition for Dogs & Cats: The Ultimate Diet by Kymythy Schultze

    Holistic Guide for a Healthy Dog by Wendy Volhard

    The Holistic Dog Book by Denise Flaim

    Food Pets Diet For: Shocking Facts About Pet Food by Ann N. Martin

    Protect Your Pet: More Shocking Facts by Ann N. Martin

    Recommend Sites
    Pet Food Ingredients Revealed!
    http://www.newstarget.com/Report_pet...edients_1.html

    Supplements Diets & what to feed and NOT feed
    http://www.treshanley.com/cic/diet.html

    Dog Food Project
    http://www.dogfoodproject.com/

    Dog Aware
    http://dogaware.com/

    Food Allergies & Intolerance in Dogs
    http://www.peteducation.com/article....&articleid=143

    About Pet Food List
    http://www.thepetfoodlist.com/

    The Dog Food Comparison Charts
    http://www.doberdogs.com/menu.html

    Dog Food: Action Againist Poisoning
    http://www.actionagainstpoisoning.co...2/page292.html

    Dogs keep dying: Too many owners remain unaware of toxic dog food
    http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/...dying.ssl.html

    Get the Facts: What's Really in Pet Food
    http://www.api4animals.org/facts.php?p=359&more=1

    Food Additives to Avoid
    http://www.mihog.org/diet/preserve.phtml

    What should I avoid in my Pet Food?
    http://www.mihog.org/diet/foodingredavoid.phtml

    High Quality Pet Food
    The Honest Kitchen (Raw Feeding)

    Eagle Pack Holistic Select

    Canidae

    By Nature

    Wellness

    Natura (California Natural, Innova, EVO)

    Nature's Variety (Raw Feeding)

    Go! Natural

    Verus

    Wysong

    Low Quailty Pet Food
    Iams

    Eukanuba

    Ol' Roy

    Bil-Jac

    Science Diet

    Purina One

    Purina Pro Plan

    Purina Dog Chow

    Purina Puppy Chow

    Purina Beneful

    Purina HiPro

    Pro Pac

    Purina Mills PMI Nutrition

    Purina Mills Exclusive

    Nutro Natural Choice

    Nutro Max

    Nutro Natural Choice Ultra

    Pedigree

    Royal Canin

    Kibbles 'n Bits

    Diamond

    Alpo

    Nature's Recipe

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    I disagree. I do not think Nutro or Diamond are low quality foods. Chicken Soup for the Dog Lover's Soul is made by Diamond and it, imo, is just as good, if not better, than Wysong.

    I've fed Wysong, Wellness, Innova, Innova EVO, and Canidae, and now I'm back to Chicken Soup for the Dog Lover's Soul. I used to feed raw, but that got too complicated. The big dogs are on CSFTDLS and Lucky is on homemade.

    Besides - it's what food works best for your dog that really matters.

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    Some of Diamond's formulas contain by-products and what-not and I would not feed them to my dogs, but one of their formulas (I believe it's the lamb and rice? Please correct me if I'm wrong) is actually really very good. And I disagree with Nutro being "low-quality" too. The two brands definitely aren't the best you can feed and definitely aren't up there with brands such as Innova or Canidae, but for the lower bracket price-range they're much better than other brands such as Science Diet or IAMS. I would classify them moreso... on the lower end of the high-quality scale. Nature's Recipe I had never thought to be a "low-quality" food, but I've never looked into that brand to know (it was a bit too pricey for me at the time when compared to Nutro).

    But bottom line we must remember that we need to feed what works for us and for our pets. If a food works for you and your pet is happy and healthy on it, then don't worry about it. If you're interested in learning more about nutrition and which foods are better, then educate yourself, do your own research, form your own opinions and then decide which is best for you and your pets. Because in my honest opinion the only "bad" food is no food at all

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    You honestly think wolves, dogs that are wild in Africa are giving high fat, sugar, by product, peanut hulls, corn for dinner? I don't think so! If you study the food industry I think you'd have a full understanding what not, what is going in your dog's systems

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    Quote Originally Posted by MS_PAWS
    You honestly think wolves, dogs that are wild in Africa are giving high fat, sugar, by product, peanut hulls, corn for dinner? I don't think so! If you study the food industry I think you'd have a full understanding what not, what is going in your dog's systems
    I'm actually going through school to become a veterinary technician, so while I may not specialize in that particular field, I HAVE been educating myself on this area on my own for years now.

    It's all opinion. And honestly, I would rather someone feed their pet Ol' Roy and love them than leave them tied in the backyard their entire life and not feed them at all.

    EDIT: And I'm sure you'll also find that many people on this board also "study" the food industry... or at least, have done extensive research on foods and what goes into them. Many many members on this board are not ignorant to pet food and nutrition.

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    Bravo to you Jessika! I'm so glad you're very aware, and Ol' Roy's are not the BEST food in the industry either

    Quote Originally Posted by Jessika
    I'm actually going through school to become a veterinary technician, so while I may not specialize in that particular field, I HAVE been educating myself on this area on my own for years now.

    It's all opinion. And honestly, I would rather someone feed their pet Ol' Roy and love them than leave them tied in the backyard their entire life and not feed them at all.

    Jennifer & Johnnie the wild child


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessika
    It's all opinion. And honestly, I would rather someone feed their pet Ol' Roy and love them than leave them tied in the backyard their entire life and not feed them at all.

    Amen! I have a dog who was starved by her first owner. He said he couldn't afford to feed her. She came to me more than 30 pounds underweight. Kayleigh would have been better off if he had fed her the 15 bucks for 40 pounds stuff! 7 years later we are still dealing with her food issues! She lives alone because she'll kill another dog over something she thinks might be edible. I'll guarentee that somewhere in the straw in her doghouse she has stashed a chunk of meat, just in case I forget to feed her tonight.

    I feed my dogs a good quality formula designed for working dogs, heavily supplemented with meat(mostly wild game). But I have, on occasion, fed absolute junk food. Sometimes I get donations of kibble that isn't a brand I would normally use, but I have 25 dogs to feed, I'm not turning down free dog food! I just mix it in with their regular stuff. When Paxil was battling cancer, the only thing she would eat was Ol' Roy Meaty Chunks. What she ate didn't matter to me, it was far more important that she eat something! When she was feeling better, she returned to her usual diet. She still gets her Ol' Roy occasionally when her appetite is off and throughly enjoys it. I use it to bait water in the winter too--2 cups of kibble in 5 gallons of water, guarenteed the dogs will all drink it before the water is frozen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MS_PAWS
    You honestly think wolves, dogs that are wild in Africa are giving high fat, sugar, by product, peanut hulls, corn for dinner? I don't think so! If you study the food industry I think you'd have a full understanding what not, what is going in your dog's systems
    I never said that.

    You claimed that Nutro and Diamond are low quality foods. CSFTDLS is made by Diamond. This is the shortened ingredient list of CSFTDLS:
    Chicken, turkey, chicken meal, ocean fish meal, cracked pearled barley, whole grain brown rice, oatmeal, millet, white rice, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), potatoes, egg product, tomato pomace, duck, salmon, etc.
    Is this high fat, sugar, by product, peanut hulls, and corn? In my opinion, this ingredient list is SUPERIOR to that of Canidae or Wysong (both of which I've fed).

    I appreciate that you are attempting to educate us, but, please, I would advise you to refrain from making such blanket statements. I have read and "studied" on what goes in my dogs' systems and I choose to feed CSFTDLS made by DIAMOND.

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    I don't trust anything with Diamonds at all, and in case you forgotten some of their chain link products has been recalled

    Made a oopies on the list, need to take off Wysong nothing but grain & grain
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    Read this; Look what is on top of 5 ingrendients of each food
    Canidae (All Life Stages)
    Ingredients
    Chicken Meal, Turkey Meal, Brown Rice, White Rice, Lamb Meal, Chicken Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols), Herring Meal, Flax Seed, Sun Cured Alfalfa Meal, Sunflower Oil, Chicken, Lecithin, Monocalcium Phosphate, Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Linoleic Acid, Rosemary Extract, Sage Extract, Dried Enterococcus Faecium, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product, Dried Aspergillus Oryzae Fermentation Extract, Dried Bacillus Subtilis Fermentation Extract, Inulin (from Chicory root), Saccharomyces Cerevisiae Fermentation Solubles, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Mixed Tocopherols (source of Vitamin E), Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Copper Amino Acid Chelate, Cobalt Amino Acid Chelate, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Ascorbic Acid (source of Vitamin C), Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Riboflavin (source of B2), Beta Carotene, Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Calcium Iodate, Folic Acid, D-Biotin, Sodium Selenite, Papaya, Vitamin B12 Supplement.

    Infomature on Menadione (Vitamin K3)
    http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index.php?page=menadione

    Nutro Natural Choice
    Ingredients:
    Lamb meal, rice flour, rice bran, rice gluten, ground rice, dried beet pulp, sunflower oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols, a source of natural vitamin E), poultry fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols, a source of natural vitamin E), natural flavor, potassium chloride, dried kelp (source of iodine), dried egg product, zinc sulfate, vitamin E supplement, ferrous sulfate, taurine, choline chloride, biotin, ascorbic acid (source of vitamin C), manganous oxide, garlic flavor, niacin, riboflavin supplement (source of vitamin B2), calcium pantothenate, vitamin B12 supplement, vitamin A supplement, pyridoxine hydrochloride (source of vitamin B6), thiamine mononitrate (source of vitamin B1), calcium iodate, vitamin D3 supplement, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of vitamin K activity), sodium selenite, folic acid

    Wysong
    Ingredients:
    Chicken, chicken giblets, ground brown rice, ground wheat, ground corn, ground oat groats, poultry fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols as a source of vitamin E), eggs, plums, dried wheat grass powder, dried barley grass powder, whey, dried yogurt, lecithin, citric acid, natural extractives of sage, natural extractives of rosemary, dried kelp, fish oil, salt, garlic, black pepper, artichoke, l-carnitine, dried bacillus subtilis fermentation product, dried entercococcus faecium fermentation product, dried lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried lactobacillus casei fermentation product, dried lactobacillus lactis fermentation product, dried saccharomyces cerevisiae fermentation product, dried aspergillus oryzae fermentation product, dried aspergillus niger fermentation product, ascorbic acid, zinc proteinate, iron proteinate, vitamin E supplement, niacin supplement, manganese proteinate, calcium pantothenate, thiamine mononitrate, copper proteinate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, riboflavin supplement, vitamin A acetate, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement, vitamin D3 supplement

    Chicken Soup for the Pet Lover's Soul
    INGREDIENTS
    Chicken, turkey, chicken meal, ocean fish meal, cracked pearled barley, whole grain brown rice, oatmeal, millet, white rice, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), potatoes, egg product, tomato pomace, duck, salmon, flaxseed, natural chicken flavor, choline chloride, dried chicory root, kelp, carrots, peas, apples, tomatoes, blueberries, spinach, dried skim milk, cranberry powder, rosemary extract, parsley flake, yucca schidigera extract, L-carnitine, Enterococcus faecieum, Lactobacillus casei, Lactobacillus acidophilus, Saccharomyces cerevesiae fermentation solubles, dried Aspergillus oryzae fermentation extract, vitamin E supplement, iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, copper proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, copper sulfate, potassium iodide, thiamine mononitrate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, ascorbic acid, vitamin A supplement, biotin, calcium pantothenate, manganese sulfate, sodium selenite, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin B12 supplement, riboflavin, vitamin D supplement, folic acid.

    Diamond
    Ingredients:
    Chicken, chicken meal, whole grain brown rice, whole grain white rice, wheat flour, rice bran, beet pulp, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), egg product, flaxseed, natural chicken flavor, brewers dried yeast, potassium chloride, salt, dried chicory root, glucosamine hydrochloride, choline chloride, vitamin E supplement, chondroitin sulfate, beta carotene, iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, copper proteinate, manganese proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, copper sulfate, potassium iodide, thiamine mononitrate, manganous oxide, ascorbic acid, vitamin A supplement, L-Carnitine, biotin, calcium pantothenate, manganous sulfate, sodium selenite, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin B12 supplement, menadione dimethylpyrimidinol bisulfite (source of vitamin K activity), riboflavin, vitamin D supplement, folic acid

    Jennifer & Johnnie the wild child


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