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    current death toll/pet food/menu foods

    the current death toll thanks to menu foods & a few other dirt ball companies is ...2200 dogs & 1900 cats. e-mail menu foods at [email protected]

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    Oh my gosh! That's a lot...way too many
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    Do you have a link supporting that death toll?
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    It's not quoted on the FDA web site, but I did hear that number on the news. I'll try to dig around to verify it. I think the number is from people reporting into a non-governmental web site. I think the number is somewhere between 10 and 2000, though. Pretty big error bar.
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    There will never be an accurate count...they have obviously been doing this for awhile and just now got caught. There will be those that die mysteriously and the owner will never check and you cannot know how many dogs and cats we have as customers at the store who are in kidney failure and the owners are switching foods...and it was happening well before all of the recall crap came out.


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    linky...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    Do you have a link supporting that death toll?
    http://www.fda.gov/ora/fiars/ora_import_ia9929.html

    IA #99-29, 4/27/07, IMPORT ALERT #99-29, "DETENTION WITHOUT PHYSICAL EXAMINATION OF ALL VEGETABLE PROTEIN PRODUCTS FROM CHINA FOR ANIMAL OR HUMAN FOOD USE DUE TO THE PRESENCE OF MELAMINE AND/OR MELAMINE ANALOGS"

    TYPE OF ALERT: Detention Without Physical Examination (Countrywide)

    (Note: This import alert represents the Agency's current guidance to FDA field
    personnel regarding the manufacturer(s) and/or products(s) at issue. It does
    not create or confer any rights for or on any person, and does not operate to
    bind FDA or the public).

    PRODUCTS: Wheat Gluten
    Rice Gluten
    Rice Protein
    Rice Protein Concentrate
    Corn Gluten
    Corn Gluten Meal
    Corn By-Products
    Soy Protein
    Soy Gluten
    Proteins (includes amino acids and protein hydrosylates)
    Mung Bean Protein

    PRODUCT 02G[][]08 - Soy Bean Meal/Powder/Gluten/Protein Isolate
    CODES: 18E[][]03 Soy Protein Powder
    02F[][]08 Wheat Gluten
    02E[][]06 - Wheat Flour Gluten
    71M[][]01 Wheat Gluten

    02D[][]12 Rice Protein
    02D[][]13 Rice Gluten
    71I[][]03 Rice Protein

    71G[][]02 - Corn Gluten
    02B[][][][] Milled Rice Products

    54[][][][][]- Amino acids and protein hydrosylates


    PROBLEM: Poisonous or Deleterious Substance
    Unfit For Food
    Unsafe Food Additive

    PAF: PES

    COUNTRY: China (CN)

    MANUFACTURER/SHIPPER: All

    CHARGES: "The article is subject to refusal of admission pursuant to
    section 801(a)(3) in that it appears to bear or contain a
    poisonous or deleterious substance, which may render it
    injurious to health [Adulteration, section 402(a)(1)]"

    and/or


    "The article is subject to refusal of admission pursuant to
    section 801(a)(3) in that it appears to bear or contain a
    food additive that is unsafe within the meaning of section
    409 [Adulteration, section 402(a)(2)(C)(i)]"

    and/or

    "The article is subject to refusal of admission pursuant
    to section 801(a)(3) in that it appears to be unfit for
    food [Adulteration, 402(a)(3)]"

    RECOMMENDING
    OFFICE: Division of Import Operations and Policy, HFC-170

    REASON FOR
    ALERT: In recent weeks, there has been an outbreak of cat and dog deaths
    and illness associated with pet food manufactured with vegetable
    proteins contaminated with melamine and melamine related
    compounds. In response to this outbreak, FDA has been conducting
    an aggressive and intensive investigation. Pet food manufacturers
    and others have recalled dog and cat food and other suspect
    products and ingredients. This has been one of the largest pet
    food recalls in history, a recall that continues to expand. Thus
    far, 18 firms have recalled product, 17 Class I and 1 class II,
    covering over 5,300 product lines. As of April 26, 2007, FDA had
    received over 17,000 consumer complaints relating to this
    outbreak, and those complaints included reports of approximately
    1950 deaths of cats and 2200 deaths of dogs. The Agency is
    working with federal, state, and local governments, academia, and
    industry to assess the extent of the outbreak, better understand
    how melamine and melamine related compounds contributed to the pet
    deaths and illnesses, and to determine the underlying cause of the
    contamination.

    As of April 26, 2007, FDA had collected approximately 750 samples
    of wheat gluten and products made with wheat gluten and, of those
    tested thus far, 330 were positive for melamine and/or melamine
    related compounds. FDA had also collected approximately 85
    samples of rice protein concentrate and products made with rice
    protein concentrate and, of those tested thus far, 27 were
    positive for melamine and/or melamine related compounds. FDA's
    investigation has traced all of the positive samples as having
    been imported from China.


    Although FDA's investigation is ongoing, the Agency has learned
    the following about the outbreak and its association with
    contaminated vegetable proteins from China:

    1. For the vegetable proteins and finished products that have been
    found to be contaminated, it is unknown who the actual
    manufacturers are, how many manufacturers there are, or where in
    China they may be located.

    The samples of vegetable proteins that have tested positive for
    the presence of melamine and melamine analogs have, thus far, been
    traced to two Chinese firms, Xuzhou Anying Biologic Technology
    Development Co. Ltd. and Binzhou Futian Biology Technology Co.
    Ltd. Records relating to the importation of these products
    indicate that these two firms had manufactured the ingredients in
    question. There is strong evidence, however, that these firms are
    not the actual manufacturers. Moreover, despite many weeks of
    investigation, it is still unknown who the actual manufacturer or
    manufacturers of the contaminated products imported from China
    are.

    All of the contaminated wheat gluten has thus far been traced to
    Xuzhou Anying. According to the General Administration of Quality
    Supervision, Inspection and Quarantine (AQSIQ) of the Chinese
    government, Xuzhou Anying purchased its wheat gluten from 25
    different manufacturers and Xuzhou Anying may just be a supplier.
    Press statements by Xuzhou Anying state that it did not
    manufacturer the wheat gluten it had shipped to United States that
    has been associated with the outbreak, but that it received that
    wheat gluten from other sources not named in the press statements.

    Despite its investigation into the matter, FDA has been unable to
    determine who, in fact, the actual manufacturer(s) are.

    2. The source of the contamination problem is currently unknown and
    FDA has been unable to isolate the scope of the problem.

    Melamine is a molecule that has a number of commercial and
    industrial uses. Other than a few limited authorizations for use
    in food contact materials for human food, melamine has no approved
    use as an ingredient in human or animal food in the United States.
    FDA is continuing its investigation into how the melamine and
    melamine related compounds may have gotten into the vegetable
    protein, and has asked the Chinese government to help with this
    investigation.

    In addition, FDA does not know how widespread the problem in China
    might be. For example, FDA does not know which regions of the
    country may or may not be impacted by the problem, which firms are
    the major manufacturers and exporters of vegetable proteins to the
    United States, where these vegetable proteins are grown in China,
    and what controls are currently in place to prevent against
    contamination.

    According to the Chinese government, Xuzhou Anying did not declare
    the contaminated wheat gluten it shipped to the United States as a
    raw material for feed or food. Rather, according to the Chinese
    government, it was declared to them as non-food product, meaning
    that it was not subject to mandatory inspection by the Chinese
    government. In addition, in a communication to the U.S.
    government, the Chinese government has requested that FDA either
    request or require that U.S. importers of plant protein products
    insist on AQSIQ certification, based on AQSIQ testing, as part of
    the import contract. According to a media report, China's Foreign
    Ministry issued a statement that the contaminated vegetable
    protein managed to get past Chinese customs without inspection
    because it had not been declared for use in pet food. The news
    report said the contamination problem has prompted China to step
    up inspections of plant-based proteins and to list melamine as a
    banned substance for food exports and domestic sales.

    This information indicates that there are manufacturing control
    issues that cannot be linked to specific sources in China, but
    instead require country-wide monitoring.

    3. On April 17, 2007, pet food manufacturers in South Africa recalled
    dry cat and dog food due to formulation with a contaminated corn
    gluten, a vegetable protein. FDA has learned that the corn gluten
    was contaminated with melamine and that the corn gluten had been
    imported from a third-party supplier in China. According to news
    reports, the contaminated pet food has been linked to the deaths
    of approximately 30 dogs in South Africa.

    GUIDANCE: Districts may detain without physical examination, all Vegetable
    protein products from China.

    Appropriate screening criteria have been set.

    For questions or issues concerning science, science policy, sample
    collection, analysis, preparation, or analytical methodology,
    contact Mr. Thomas Savage, Division of Field Science, at 301-827-
    1026.

    If a firm, shipper or importer believes that their product should
    not be subject to detention under this import alert they should
    forward information supporting their position to FDA at the
    following address:

    Food and Drug Administration
    Division of Import Operations and Policy (HFC-170)
    5600 Fishers Lane, Room 12-36
    Rockville, MD 20587

    In order to adequately assess whether a manufacturer has the
    appropriate controls and processes in place to ensure the quality
    of the product being produced, the firm or shipper must provide
    the following information:
    1. Documentation showing that a minimum of five (5)
    consecutive entries have been released by FDA based on
    third party laboratory analyses using FDA recommended
    methods and that all shipments did not contain the
    presence of melamine and/or melamine analogs.

    AND

    2. Certificate, such as from AQSIQ, indicating that an
    inspection of the manufacturer was conducted and
    adequate controls are in place. Information should
    also include:

    a. Copy of the inspectional reports and compliance
    status of the manufacturer.

    b. If products were sampled during the course of the
    inspection, test results indicating that the
    products are free of melamine and/or melamine
    analog.


    All requests for removal (exemption) from DWPE will be forwarded
    by DIOP to CVM (HFV-230) or CFSAN (HFS-606) for
    evaluation depending on the intended final use in animal
    or human food.

    PRIORITIZATION
    GUIDANCE: I

    FOI: No purging required

    KEYWORDS: Feed, pet food, human food, melamine, gluten, protein,
    concentrate, rice, wheat, corn, soy, mung bean

    PREPARED BY: Cathie Marshall, CVM, HFV-232, 240-276-9217
    Salvatore Evola, CFSAN, HFS-606- 302-436-2164
    Linda Wisniowski, DIOP, HFC-172, 301-443-6553

    DATE LOADED
    INTO FIARS: April 27, 2007

    ATTACHMENT
    Firms and products exempt from detention without physical examination

    (Currently there are no firms listed in the attachment)


    http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...rts-usat_N.htm

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    Yuppers! Sad, but true.

    Quote Originally Posted by mugsy
    There will never be an accurate count...they have obviously been doing this for awhile and just now got caught. There will be those that die mysteriously and the owner will never check and you cannot know how many dogs and cats we have as customers at the store who are in kidney failure and the owners are switching foods...and it was happening well before all of the recall crap came out.
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    Please, if your dog is arthritic look into getting it Elk Velvet Antler. Look up my posts on it, PM me, or look it up on a search engine; but please if you love your dog and want it to live many more years consider this option. I've seen so many posts on here about dogs needlessly suffering. I can't make a new post about EVA every time so this plea is going here. EVA also helps with other ailments such as anemia.

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    Thanks much.

    I wasn't doubting the numbers (I agree it's probably on the low side), but dislike when someone posts numbers/facts about something without a link or a supporting citation. Anyone could guesstimate and WAG.
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    I understand... I like to at least have some clue as to where to look to find the statistics. Directs references are great though!

    Not that i don't believe people, but i prefer to have the integrity when I'm repeating what I've heard/read.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    Thanks much.

    I wasn't doubting the numbers (I agree it's probably on the low side), but dislike when someone posts numbers/facts about something without a link or a supporting citation. Anyone could guesstimate and WAG.
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    The pet world excels where the human world is lacking; sterilization and adoption. ~ crow_noir

    Please, if your dog is arthritic look into getting it Elk Velvet Antler. Look up my posts on it, PM me, or look it up on a search engine; but please if you love your dog and want it to live many more years consider this option. I've seen so many posts on here about dogs needlessly suffering. I can't make a new post about EVA every time so this plea is going here. EVA also helps with other ailments such as anemia.

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    Pet Food Recall

    I lost my cat on March 5th of this year. I had him for 16 years. He was totally fine up until about a week before his death. After this recall was announced, I called the vet since I had been feeding him one of the foods on the list. The vet said it was highly likely that El died from this carelessness. I have been contacted by the firm that represents Menu Foods. I was told I would receive something in the mail-that was 5 weeks ago. They knew about this weeks before they announced the recall. I would at least like for them to reimburse me for the 426.00 in vet bills.

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