Cesar Millan

[BorderColliez]

What exactly did Cesar Millan do that makes some people dislike him? I'm a little confused...

[critter crazy]

I dont know. I Love Cesar Millan! i think he is great, and does so much for the dog world! To me he is a Hero!

[DrKym]

He is charming and personable and has set back training 25 years. His methods are outdated and hyped up with a new flash to dazzle.

[BorderColliez]

I dont know. I Love Cesar Millan! i think he is great, and does so much for the dog world! To me he is a Hero!

I really enjoy his shows, and love him as well, but people say something about him forcing a pit bull to walk on a treadmill or something....??? Hmmph I'm confused.

(I am particularly in love with his pit bull named Daddy )

[BorderColliez]

He is charming and personable and has set back training 25 years. His methods are outdated and hyped up with a new flash to dazzle.

Great writing...entaining to read...interested words..lol. You should write a book. I mean, honestly!!! But his methods seem pretty good to me. I've been watching his shows for the last 3 weeks. What I am really wondering is the details of his...forcing a pit bull to walk on a treadmill or something alike??

[DrKym]

His methods have been outdated for years , he is a charming and personable person, however forcing any being to face a fear in a brutal manner and then using the issue of pack mentality is not only confusing to many people with dogs it is confusing to dog themselves.

Any show can be entertaining and mildly informative, however, there is no one way to train all dogs. They are individuals and the entire concept of training should be taken as a generalization, and some methods will work with some dogs and some will not. Passing off the conception that this method works all the time with all dogs is an injustice to owner mentality and also to the sentinel beings under our care.

[BorderColliez]

Mr.Goodnow, thank you and that is true.


What about this forcing a pit bull to work on a treadmill though???? Or something like that????

[DrKym]

Mr.Goodnow, thank you and that is true.


What about this forcing a pit bull to work on a treadmill though???? Or something like that????

LOL it is Dr. and I am a Mrs. when not at work,no matter though, the pit bull issue was that if the dog was tired it was less likely to misbehave, in and of itself that is accurate. A tired pup is a happy pup, but without counseling on the breed and it's unique care and the committment required to own such an amazing and powerful animal what good did it actually do?

[critter crazy]

On May 5, 2006, a television producer for the TV series 8 Simple Rules filed a lawsuit against Millan, claiming that his labrador retriever had been seriously injured while at Millan's training facility during an exercise routine on a treadmill.[21]. National Geographic released a statement that Millan was not present at the facility at the time of the alleged incident.

This is what I found on this site:
http://www.answers.com/topic/cesar-millan

[Giselle]

There are two main reasons that people don't like Cesar:

1- He uses flooding a method that most trainers abhor and believe is LOOOOONG outdated. Cesar believes that flooding will reduce a dog's anxiety to a certain fear. However, flooding is a two-way street. You either learn to ignore the fear OR you develop deeper fears. Oftentimes, it can be the latter. As the owner of a dog with severe public anxiety, flooding is not even one of my last resorts.

2- He uses punishment to "eliminate" bad behavior. However, many behaviorists and trainers debate that punishment merely suppresses the symptoms; it does not treat the cause.

Also, Cesar heavily believes in pack hierarchy and what he calls is 'dog psychology' - in other words, only give your dog what it needs to be fulfilled. He states on his website somewhere that dogs don't need love to be fulfilled and that that is a human need. That's a debatable topic in itself, but you can see already why some modern behaviorists/trainers criticize Millan's techniques.

Honestly, take everything you read and see from anybody with a grain of salt. Just because Millan can stop a dog from pulling with a collar pop and a "TSST!" doesn't mean you should go around popping your dog's collar and "TSST"-ing.

[DrKym]

There are two main reasons that people don't like Cesar:

1- He uses flooding a method that most trainers abhor and believe is LOOOOONG outdated. Cesar believes that flooding will reduce a dog's anxiety to a certain fear. However, flooding is a two-way street. You either learn to ignore the fear OR you develop deeper fears. Oftentimes, it can be the latter. As the owner of a dog with severe public anxiety, flooding is not even one of my last resorts.

2- He uses punishment to "eliminate" bad behavior. However, many behaviorists and trainers debate that punishment merely suppresses the symptoms; it does not treat the cause.

Also, Cesar heavily believes in pack hierarchy and what he calls is 'dog psychology' - in other words, only give your dog what it needs to be fulfilled. He states on his website somewhere that dogs don't need love to be fulfilled and that that is a human need. That's a debatable topic in itself, but you can see already why some modern behaviorists/trainers criticize Millan's techniques.

Honestly, take everything you read and see from anybody with a grain of salt. Just because Millan can stop a dog from pulling with a collar pop and a "TSST!" doesn't mean you should go around popping your dog's collar and "TSST"-ing.

WELL SAID thank you!

[BorderColliez]

Thank you everyone! You all have been tons of help!!

LOL it is Dr. and I am a Mrs. when not at work,no matter though, the pit bull issue was that if the dog was tired it was less likely to misbehave, in and of itself that is accurate. A tired pup is a happy pup, but without counseling on the breed and it's unique care and the committment required to own such an amazing and powerful animal what good did it actually do?

Oh, sorry

[DrKym]

Please don't be! My husband who is the Mr is also on this board. Just made the comment so you knw which Dr. you were talking with!
He goes by the otherdrgoodnow

[BorderColliez]

Please don't be! My husband who is the Mr is also on this board. Just made the comment so you knw which Dr. you were talking with!
He goes by the otherdrgoodnow

Ok thanks, I was soo embaressed...lol

[lute]

I honestly don't have a problem with Cesar Milan and his training. I think he does well at what he does. I don't look to him for guidence on traing although some people might.