I am seeing red right now!!!!!

[Stenograsaurus]

I was typing this transcript for work and the following are questions and answers from it. I am so mad I am shaking. When I heard it in the courtroom, I had to control myself, but I don't have to now.

Q. Okay. And between your surgery training and
medical school -- you got out of medical school in 1958, you
performed some research on dogs involving cardiovascular
surgery issues, did you not?
A. We also had – I worked with Dr. Mustand (phonetic),
and he was an orthopaedic surgeon as well at the Children’s
Hospital.
Q. Okay, but the question was, did you perform, and
it’s on your Curriculum Vitae, –
A. Yes.
Q. – cardiovascular surgery research on dogs?
A. We also did a study on trying to relieve vascular
spasm and that included breaking the dog’s leg and distracting
it and causing spasm and I had to operate on the dog’s back
and do spinals, so there was an element of orthopaedic surgery.
Q. Okay. But you still haven’t answered my question.
Your primary research was primary cardiovascular surgery
involving the dogs. And you’ve testified to that in other
cases, haven’t you?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. We don’t need to get those out and do it, do we?
A. No, sir.
Q. Okay. And cardio means the heart, I think you
explained that one.
A. That’s correct.
Q. And for the jurors, vascular means the blood
vessels?
A. Yes.

I lost all respect for the expert witness after hearing the testimony. That poor dog.

[ramanth]

WHAT!??!?!?!?!!?!?

GGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!

I commend you.... I would of totally lost it had I heard that. This guy should lose his lisence. He's no doctor. He's a monster.

[anna_66]

OMG! THIS IS HORRIBLE!
I can't imagine trying to control myself upon hearing this

[Randi]

APPALLING!!!

[puppylove11]

I do not understand A WORD of that, please explain it to me, whats the problem?????

[ramanth]

puppylove... the guy was in court, under oath and answered this to a question asked of him.

A. We also did a study on trying to relieve vascular
spasm and that included breaking the dog’s leg and distracting
it and causing spasm and I had to operate on the dog’s back
and do spinals, so there was an element of orthopaedic surgery.

That's just sick.

[puppylove11]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Stenograsaurus
[B]

A. We also did a study on trying to relieve vascular
spasm and that included breaking the dog’s leg and distracting
it and causing spasm and I had to operate on the dog’s back
and do spinals, so there was an element of orthopaedic surgery.



THAT IS JUST SICK, why would you do such a thing!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Stenograsaurus]

Oh, it was hard to not lose it. Half the time I don't pay attention to what's being said. My fingers know where they need to go, so I don't have to concentrate. So I'm sitting there daydreaming, thinking, oh, man, I can't believe I have to do a medical mal. These things are so boring. I hate all these medical terms. Hey, it looks like a pretty nice day today. I hope I'm not here long. Maybe after work I can . . . Wait a minute. Did he just say dog? This is medical mal. Why did he say dog? I better pay attention. Then he gave that answer. I know I froze. My fingers stopped moving and my mouth flung open. I looked at all the other staff to see if I heard right. The eyes of every staff member there were on me. They said my face got beat red. I just glared at the doctor. I had used every ounce of restraint I could muster to hold back. I kept thinking, you have a family to take care of, Beth. Don't lose your job. Hold back. So I did. I blinked away the tears and went back to work. But if looks could kill, that doctor would not have walked out of that courtroom!!!!

[Gio]

What a horrible experience! I would have completely lost my temper and most probably broken his leg.

[CountryWolf07]

What a horrible thing...! Poor dog! Grrr.. I'll beat the guy myself if I had to. - Rach

[Karen]

Maybe the dog was under anethesia and didn't feel it. I hope.

[Ann]

I don't really get it to be honest... But if it's animal testing you are talking about then I think it's fairly obvious where I stand on that matter *hates animal testing*

But, isn't this stuff CONFIDENTIAL?? I mean, from what I gather on law procedures and lawyers and stuff like that is that it's all extremely confidential and you're not even allowed to talk about it to your family, even less post it on the net... I just wouldn't want anyone to get in trouble or anything is all.

[Kat Kommando]

Ann,

Good point about expression on the Net. People have been sued or fired over what they said on the Internet. You can say almost anything. Things like revealing secrets or slander may not be protected at all, however.

On animal testing - even those who condon it must be uncomfortable with the excesses. Why must the same experiment be done a thousand times? Is that really necessary or professional? Of course, when the experiment is over the animal's life usually is over as well .

[Stenograsaurus]

Originally posted by Ann
But, isn't this stuff CONFIDENTIAL?? I mean, from what I gather on law procedures and lawyers and stuff like that is that it's all extremely confidential and you're not even allowed to talk about it to your family, even less post it on the net... I just wouldn't want anyone to get in trouble or anything is all.

If it was Juvenile Court or Domestic Relations or adoptions it is a closed courtroom and the record is sealed. Anything else is an open courtroom (open to the public), unless sealed by a Judge. The portion of the transcript mentioned above is not sealed. It is open to the public and anyone can view it. Jurors are not allowed to talk about a case until they deliberate and reach a verdict. There is also such a thing as attorney/client privilege, which this is not. I am not a lawyer or a client. No, I can't get in trouble for it, but thanks for your concern.
And, yes, it is about animal torturing, um, I mean "testing".

[AdoreMyDogs]

Wow is this terrible. How someone could do such a thing I will never understand. Truly ugly.