Petit Brabancon

[zoomer]

Hi, does anyone know about Petit Brabancons? They're like a smooth haired Brussel Griffon. If anyone can tell me anything that would be awesome!

[I_luv_rusty]

I don't never heard of them. You can probaly google the breed and get alot of information.

[Sevaede]

The dog breed book I have is my favourite. It is really complete. It is called The Complete Encyclopedia of Dogs by Esther J.J. Verhoef-Verhallen. I will type out some of the information as there are three whole pages on them.

Section 3, Small Belgian Dogs

Griffon Bruxellois, Belgian Griffon, and Petit Brabancon
Country Of Origin: Belgium
Original and Today's Function: Companion Dog

APPEARANCE

The breed standard does not mention size, but the shoulder height of most dogs is 11 in (28 cm).

The weight is approximately 11 lbs.

The Griffon Bruxellois and the Belgian Griffon are rough haired; the coat should be shaffy, hard, medium length, and dense. The hair around the eyes, on the muzzle, the cheeks, and the chin is longer, which is a characteristic feature of this breed. The Petit Brabancon has a short-haired coat.

The two roughs can be distinguished by their coat colour. The GB is always reddish brown in colour, with possibly some black on the moustache and the chin. The coat colours of the BG are black, black and tan, and black mixed with brown. The Petit Brabancon comes in the same colours. The claws and pawds are always black as are the eyes and eye rims.
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TEMPERAMENT

Dogs of these breeds are very inquisitive and always alert to what goes on around them. They become strongly attached to their owners and the family and are very affectionate. They like to stay close to their people and sometimes follow them around the entire house. They also hate being left on their own. This is usually not necessary. Because of their handy size and great adaptability they can be taken everywhere. They are active and playful and will certainly bark when they notice anything out of the ordinary. They are also fairly intelligent, eager to learn, and obedient. Being very adaptable, they can be kept either on a farm or in a city apartment.

Aggressiveness is totally alien to them.
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General Care

The coat of the Petit Brabancon is easy to care for. Weekly brushin or combing is sufficient. In some Petit Brabancons it may be necessary to regularly clean the folds belows the eyes using a special lotion. Long tufts of hair on the tip of the tail may be trimmed.

These dogs are usually no problem to train. These intelligent and obedient dogs love to please their ownders. They are sensitive to the tone of your voice.

These dogs have average exercise needs. Indoors or in the yard they can often get enough exercise but they also love going out with you. They do not mind whether you take them on a walk through the city on a leash or let them romp about off leash in the woods. They form a close bond to their packs and are rarely inclined to wander off very far during a walk, nor are they likely to explore the boundaires beyong their yard on their own.

Griffons and Petit Brabancons are companion dogs par excellence. Although their thick set build and short faces suggest otherwise, these dogs are surprisingly quick, nimble, and agile. If you enjoy doing an activity, with one of these breeds you could do an obedience class.
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There is a lot more but I just typed out what I thought was most vital. There are a couple of pictures of the Petit Brabancons in there. They look like taller, longer legged, less round, pugs. Also, they are much darker, like a red colour, than pugs.

I hope this helps!

[IRescue452]

You are looking up the wrong name. All belgian griffons are just varieties of the same dog. You will find their differences only come in coat and colour, just as the belgian shepherds. I know several and they are not a healthy little dog if you don't get them from the right breeder. They are expensive. And you still need to save money to get your current dog to the vet.

[critter crazy]

this is what i found while searching! They are pretty cute, but are you looking to own one??

[zoomer]

this is what i found while searching! They are pretty cute, but are you looking to own one??

I'm not sure. Just wanted to know more about them

[Iilo]

"Petit Brabancons" are not registered with the AKC, as it is simply a name for the smooth coated variety of the Brussels Griffon. They are not a seperate breed.

The Griff is a rather rare dog. I'd suggest a visit to these two sites, they'll provide you with plenty of information:
http://www.brussels-griffon.net/
http://www.brussels-griffon.info/

I think, but am not sure as I'm not too widely familiar with the breed, that even the smooth coat needs to be "stripped." Handstripping is not exactly difficult once you get someone to demonstrate it for you, but you will need to be patient and be open to getting carpal tunnel Your puppy will need to be trained to enjoy the grooming table and everything that goes with it at a young age, as every show dog should.

Here is a link with some FAQs on handstripping and why it is a MUST with a dog with a wire coat if you plan on showing it:
http://www.handstripping.com/

They are a difficult breed to train, especially to housetrain. They're sweet dogs, very willing to please, but also rather sensitive.

Due to their relative rarity, it will be hard to find a breeder. They are "ranked" 60th, out of 154, in 2005 according to AKC registration statistics. I really don't think they're what you're looking for in a dog.

I still stand by my advice for you to visit a local training club, especially one with a handling class (most of them do have those). Meet the people, meet their dogs, offer to help in any way you can, talk them up about their dogs -- dog people LOVE to brag. You'll end up with a mentor and a breed in a much better way than if you're looking on the internet, trust me.

[Sevaede]

Excuse me? Is there some hostility because I looked up the name? =/

All of what I typed were the exact word for word from the book. None of it is in my own words. So, please don't go out of your way to try and correct me as I am merely just trying to give out the information that is available to myself.

Yes, they all are the same breed. It certainly seemed evident as they have all the information compiled together. If they were NOT the same, then they would have had different sections. You can tell who is in what section as before they have the information, they have a little black box that tells you what the breed is or are.

[Almita]

The dog breed book I have is my favourite. It is really complete. It is called The Complete Encyclopedia of Dogs by Esther J.J. Verhoef-Verhallen. I will type out some of the information as there are three whole pages on them.

Section 3, Small Belgian Dogs

Griffon Bruxellois, Belgian Griffon, and Petit Brabancon
Country Of Origin: Belgium
Original and Today's Function: Companion Dog

APPEARANCE

The breed standard does not mention size, but the shoulder height of most dogs is 11 in (28 cm).

The weight is approximately 11 lbs.

The Griffon Bruxellois and the Belgian Griffon are rough haired; the coat should be shaffy, hard, medium length, and dense. The hair around the eyes, on the muzzle, the cheeks, and the chin is longer, which is a characteristic feature of this breed. The Petit Brabancon has a short-haired coat.

The two roughs can be distinguished by their coat colour. The GB is always reddish brown in colour, with possibly some black on the moustache and the chin. The coat colours of the BG are black, black and tan, and black mixed with brown. The Petit Brabancon comes in the same colours. The claws and pawds are always black as are the eyes and eye rims.
_________________________

TEMPERAMENT

Dogs of these breeds are very inquisitive and always alert to what goes on around them. They become strongly attached to their owners and the family and are very affectionate. They like to stay close to their people and sometimes follow them around the entire house. They also hate being left on their own. This is usually not necessary. Because of their handy size and great adaptability they can be taken everywhere. They are active and playful and will certainly bark when they notice anything out of the ordinary. They are also fairly intelligent, eager to learn, and obedient. Being very adaptable, they can be kept either on a farm or in a city apartment.

Aggressiveness is totally alien to them.
_____________________

General Care

The coat of the Petit Brabancon is easy to care for. Weekly brushin or combing is sufficient. In some Petit Brabancons it may be necessary to regularly clean the folds belows the eyes using a special lotion. Long tufts of hair on the tip of the tail may be trimmed.

These dogs are usually no problem to train. These intelligent and obedient dogs love to please their ownders. They are sensitive to the tone of your voice.

These dogs have average exercise needs. Indoors or in the yard they can often get enough exercise but they also love going out with you. They do not mind whether you take them on a walk through the city on a leash or let them romp about off leash in the woods. They form a close bond to their packs and are rarely inclined to wander off very far during a walk, nor are they likely to explore the boundaires beyong their yard on their own.

Griffons and Petit Brabancons are companion dogs par excellence. Although their thick set build and short faces suggest otherwise, these dogs are surprisingly quick, nimble, and agile. If you enjoy doing an activity, with one of these breeds you could do an obedience class.
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There is a lot more but I just typed out what I thought was most vital. There are a couple of pictures of the Petit Brabancons in there. They look like taller, longer legged, less round, pugs. Also, they are much darker, like a red colour, than pugs.

I hope this helps!

Where did you get your book that seems like an interesting book that you can learn about a lot of breeds of dogs! I should check it out probably at the library.

I don't know really much about the Petit Brabancons never heard of them but I probably have seen them around.

[Sevaede]

Where did you get your book that seems like an interesting book that you can learn about a lot of breeds of dogs! I should check it out probably at the library.

I don't know really much about the Petit Brabancons never heard of them but I probably have seen them around.

This book is called The Complete Encyclopedia of Dogs by Esther J.J. Verhoef-Verhallen. I got my compy at a sort of discount store called Borders Unlimited for about $18.00. They charge a LOT less for the books there than at other places.

[Iilo]

Wenisrubber,

I hope you don't think I was being hostile towards you. I was simply trying to make it easier for her if she wanted to try and find her own information -- not much pops up when you search for "petit brabancon" whereas if you search for brussels griffon or even belgian griffon, you get a lot more.

The information you provided was great. However, I tend to disagree with one little fact... Agressiveness is possible in them, simply because they are rather sensitive they can have a tendency to be quite fear agressive.

[Sevaede]

OOoooh okay! I just wasn't sure if anyone thought I was typing out a bunch of information to be (purposefully) misleading. Heh. I try to be as helpful as I can!

In all honesty, I wasn't sure if that name was going to be in my book but lo and behold it was. It has pretty much every breed in there minus a select few.

[elizabethann]

this is what i found while searching! They are pretty cute, but are you looking to own one??

I LOVE those dogs! They're so cute. But that's all I know about them - they're cute.