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    Over Vaccination Issues, and Titers

    Dr. Jean Dodds is world-renown vaccination expert. Our pets are over vaccinated, that much is undisputed. Dr. Dodds has shown links between overvaccination and thyroidism in dogs, as well as a connection between vaccines and other health issues.

    Her blog includes these 3 highly informative postings:
    VACCINES: WHEN TOO MUCH OF A GOOD THING TURNS BAD (Part I) http://drjeandoddspethealthresource....63/dogvaccines

    VACCINES: WHEN TOO MUCH OF A GOOD THING TURNS BAD (Part II) http://drjeandoddspethealthresource....rns-bad-part-2

    AVOID UNNECESSARY VACCINES WITH TITER TESTS (PART III) http://drjeandoddspethealthresource....esting-animals

    The articles above discuss both dog and cat vaccine issues.

    This is from Part 2:

    Although all dogs are susceptible to vaccine-related side effects, breeds at highest-risk of vaccinosis (in alphabetical order) are:

    • Akita
    • American Cocker Spaniel
    • German Shepherd
    • Golden Retriever
    • Irish Setter
    • Great Dane
    • Kerry Blue Terrier
    • Dachshunds (all varieties, but especially the long-haired)
    • Poodles (all varieties, but especially the Standard Poodle
    • Old English Sheepdog
    • Scottish Terrier
    • Shetland Sheepdog
    • Shih Tzu
    • Vizsla
    • Weimaraner

    Breeds with white or predominantly white coats, as well as those with coat color and pigment dilution such as fawn (Isabella) or blue Dobermans, the merle coat color, blue Yorkshire Terriers, grey Collies, harlequin Great Danes, and Australian Shepherds are also more susceptible.

    Note: Breed-susceptibility data are generally unavailable for vaccinosis in cats.
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    The only downfall to titering is that it's expensive... clients would much rather pay $20 for a distemper vaccine than $100 to titer... is one better for the pet? Yes... but with the economy the way that it is, I can easily see how the $20 vs $100 is the easier option...

    Don't forget, if you can't afford the bloodwork to titer for these, talk to your vet about vaccinating only every 3 years!! This is not only cost-effective, but safer than vaccinating every year.

    Now... from working in a clinic, I can tell you... the only time some/most clients bring their pets in is because they're due for vaccines. If we started offering 3 year DHLPP (we already offer 3y rabies), we would NOT see those pets for 3 years... just because you have vaccines for 3 years does not mean your pet still should not be examined by your vet on a YEARLY basis. This is ESPECIALLY important in older/senior pets! Also, in senior pets (age 10+, depending on breed), talk to your vet about discontinuing their vaccines altogether (granted, you will still have to get rabies as per the law [in the US, anyway]).

    I know most of you on pet talk already know all of this, but on the off-chance that one person doesn't I felt it needs to be said.

    If you can afford to titer, absolutely do it!! If not, ask your vet about vaccinating every 3 years instead

    Very good reads, thank you for sharing.

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    I've been doing three year vaccinations with my dogs and cats for quite a few years. Thanks for the info Sandie.

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    At this point, my cats are only getting the required 3 year rabies. They are indoor only, so they really aren't exposed to much. I stopped doing cat rescue several years back.

    The dogs are as well. But for them, I keep tabs as they are out and about for walks, and 2 are in classes, so I may get them a booster.

    Jessika, I also think it is so important for people to know about issues with their breed. Bichons should never have the Lepto vaccine, they have an extremely high reaction rate.

    Someone on the bichon forum just brought home a puppy, age 12 weeks, through a rescue group. She was looking through the vaccination paperwork, and this wee baby has already had DHLPP THREE TIMES!!! She needs to work with her vet and give this baby's immune system a break for as long as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
    Someone on the bichon forum just brought home a puppy, age 12 weeks, through a rescue group. She was looking through the vaccination paperwork, and this wee baby has already had DHLPP THREE TIMES!!! She needs to work with her vet and give this baby's immune system a break for as long as possible.
    If they are going to have a reaction to a vaccine, though, they will get one within a few hours of administration. So if her Bichon has not has a reaction to lepto, chances are likely she won't in the future, either.

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    That is not the point, Jessika. With so many vaccines (and doubled up, at that!) she is now high risk for thyroidism, allergies and wide range of issues.
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