Gun control discussion

[mon]

If we're gonna over simplify this, I must get this off my chest. My friend says, buy all the guns ya want. Make 'em all legal. Even automatic weapons. Just don't sell ammunition. Guns don't kill folks, bullets do.

[blue]

If we're gonna over simplify this, I must get this off my chest. My friend says, buy all the guns ya want. Make 'em all legal. Even automatic weapons. Just don't sell ammunition. Guns don't kill folks, bullets do.

We can always reload our own ammo. It's easily done.

[phesina]

People say enforce the laws we already have.

Just what are some of the laws already on the books, and why aren't they being enforced?

[Lady's Human]

People say enforce the laws we already have.

Just what are some of the laws already on the books, and why aren't they being enforced?

The shooter in Binghamton a few years back had a pistol permit. He got the permit because the local chief didn't want to deal with a discrimination suit. One of the references the shooter used basically told the police that they wouldn't want the person to have firearms. That is supposed to be an immediate disqualifier. It was ignored.

Fund NICS. Many records aren't getting into the database because there's no funding for a complete implementation.

As much as I hate the Lautenberg act, if you're going to have it on the books, enforce it. Every soldier has to undergo a complete legal check for suitability to carry firearms. Because of funding, many civilians slip through the cracks (If you have a domestic violence conviction of any kind or a restraining order, you're not supposed to have access to firearms)

Eliminate the doublespeak. Even if the Federal Government passes a NICS check including mental health, Massachusetts, for one, has laws on the books barring ANY mental health records screenings. The state injunction against it is far stronger than the federal laws, yet Massachusetts has one of the strongest AWB in the country in place.

There are over 22,000 laws on the books governing firearms between federal and state legislation, including restrictions against those with mental illness acquiring weapons. There is, however, no mandated mental health records check. There are laws barring those who have committed felonies and some misdemeanors from acquiring firearms, but the records check system is underfunded at the Federal level and not funded at all in some states (looking at you, Missouri). Before passing more laws, rationalize and enforce the ones we've got.

[RICHARD]

White House Recipe for Skeet.

Serves 4

Take four skeet - if you go skeet shooting you must follow a few simple steps.

Boil two gallons of water and place the skeet in for approximately 60 seconds, this will allow you to
take the feathers off the birds.

Gut the birds and remove the head and feet - you can keep them for stock.

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Take a pair of kitchen shears and cut the breastbone, then lay flat.

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Take half a cup of soy sauce, 1/2 teaspoon of ginger, 1/2 teaspoon of salt and pepper, Mix thoroughly.

Place the skeet in a plastic bag and pour the marinade in.

Place into the fridge for 2-3 hours.

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To cook your skeet, you can bake or grill. When temperature - taken from the thigh - reaches 170 degrees the skeet are ready.

[pomtzu]

White House Recipe for Skeet.

Serves 4

Take four skeet - if you go skeet shooting you must follow a few simple steps.

Boil two gallons of water and place the skeet in for approximately 60 seconds, this will allow you to
take the feathers off the birds.

Gut the birds and remove the head and feet - you can keep them for stock.

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Take a pair of kitchen shears and cut the breastbone, then lay flat.

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Take half a cup of soy sauce, 1/2 teaspoon of ginger, 1/2 teaspoon of salt and pepper, Mix thoroughly.

Place the skeet in a plastic bag and pour the marinade in.

Place into the fridge for 2-3 hours.

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To cook your skeet, you can bake or grill. When temperature - taken from the thigh - reaches 170 degrees the skeet are ready.

I didn't know that clay pigeons had feathers, nor did I realize that they are edible.

[Lady's Human]

Looks similar to the recipe for crow they use on Capitol Hill.

[RICHARD]

I didn't know that clay pigeons had feathers, nor did I realize that they are edible.

Wait a minute, so what was the presidentshooting at?

[Lady's Human]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/04/politi...html?hpt=hp_c2

To back up President Barack Obama's statement that he goes skeet shooting regularly, which some Republicans questioned, the White House released this photo of Obama firing a rifle at Camp David in August. See more commanders in chief taking advantage of their right to bear arms.

Guys, if that's a rifle, then I'm Japanese.

[Karen]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/04/politi...html?hpt=hp_c2

To back up President Barack Obama's statement that he goes skeet shooting regularly, which some Republicans questioned, the White House released this photo of Obama firing a rifle at Camp David in August. See more commanders in chief taking advantage of their right to bear arms.

Guys, if that's a rifle, then I'm Japanese.

You mean any long gun isn't a rifle, and any gun with a clip isn't an assault rifle? Gee, you mean types of guns have actual names that have meaning?

Maybe someone should take out a full-page ad in some national venue explain the difference between a shot gun, a rifle, a pistol, a revolver, and all the way down the line! It would have to have pictures as well as words, though ...

[RICHARD]

You mean any long gun isn't a rifle, and any gun with a clip isn't an assault rifle? Gee, you mean types of guns have actual names that have meaning?

Maybe someone should take out a full-page ad in some national venue explain the difference between a shot gun, a rifle, a pistol, a revolver, and all the way down the line! It would have to have pictures as well as words, though ...

A shot guns shoots 'shot' - or little pellets of different sizes. They also can shoot slugs or flechettes. Slugs are just like bullets, large hunks of lead. Flechettes are small darts.

When the shot or flechettes leave the barrel they are concentrated - as the go down range they spread out and make it easier to hit what you shoot at.

A shotgun slug is like a large bullet, it's used for large animal hunting.

A shotgun is 'loaded' by moving the foregrip back and forth. There are some old shot guns that use a bolt action method of getting a shell into the breech to shoot.

A bolt action gun is primed by grabbing a lever and moving it backwards to eject the old shell and place a new shell into position.

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A rifle is named for the spirals cut into the barrel.

As the bullet leaves the barrel the rifling spins the bullet making it fly straighter - it's a long range weapon.

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A revolver is a gun - like a six shooter - that the Cowboys used to use.

It's named for the cylinder that revolves to put a bullet into position to fire.

It doesn't eject empty cartridges.

A pistol, is a magazine fed gun that does eject spent shells, the magazine goes into the grip of the gun.
A magaine is usually a 'box' with a spring at the bottom that feeds the rounds into the chamber to be fired.

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More often than not, the politicos talking about GC don't have a clue as to what they are talking about.

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if I made a mistake somewhere, someone will correct me!

[Karen]

Richard, I know all that - I meant for the world's media to see and be quizzed on, so they don't make mistakes like calling the shotgun the president is holding a rifle!

One does not grow up in a family with a grandfather who was chief of police (retired) and a Dad who did Small Arms Repair in the Army without knowing about guns, the different kinds, weights, purposes and ammunition. And to never kid around with them, and other rules that were drilled into us before we were ever allowed to touch any!

[RICHARD]

Richard, I know all that - I meant for the world's media to see and be quizzed on, so they don't make mistakes like calling the shotgun the president is holding a rifle!

One does not grow up in a family with a grandfather who was chief of police (retired) and a Dad who did Small Arms Repair in the Army without knowing about guns, the different kinds, weights, purposes and ammunition. And to never kid around with them, and other rules that were drilled into us before we were ever allowed to touch any!

In my best Emily Litella voice......Never mind!

[lizbud]

" A magaine is usually a 'box' with a spring at the bottom that feeds the rounds into the chamber to be fired."


I thought a"magaine" was a very very bad headache. J/k

[RICHARD]

" A magaine is usually a 'box' with a spring at the bottom that feeds the rounds into the chamber to be fired."


I thought a"magaine" was a very very bad headache. J/k

It is, if you get pistol whipped?