Gun control discussion

[Lady's Human]

Low watt verbiage?

Calling someone a weekend warrior is hardly a comment deserving of a polite response, along with the rest of the insulting, derisive horse manure Sara has been spreading in the thread.

I have an extensive first hand knowledge of weapons and systems. The one discussing the issue with no knowledge is ES.

[Alysser]

The Harrisburg, PA Outdoor show has been cancelled due to them banning assault rifles, many vendors, including Bear Archery (my personal favorite) pulled out of the show to make a stand. I think that's a good thing, however, I am a little disappointed I don't get to go now. Good thing me and my dad didn't purchase any tickets.

[blue]

Yep, you've called it Sara. Same echo chamber, same low watt verbiage.

You and ES are the ones with the low watt verbiage, and the same echo chamber.

Highest gun crimes happen in areas with the highest "Firearm Laws". Chicago being a prime example, CT Sandy Hook being the latest. Gun free zones are killing more people then gun "FREE" zones.

Im not sure if your heads are in the sand, or in your @$$.

Lose the Second Amendment, the first isnt far behind.

[cassiesmom]

Highest gun crimes happen in areas with the highest "Firearm Laws". Chicago being a prime example.

Illinois is the only state currently without a concealed carry law. But there are gang members out there carrying guns in the hood every day. A girl was shot and killed yesterday just one week after being in President Obama's inauguration parade with her school band. There was a story on the news about a mother who has lost all four of her children to gunshots. Newt Gingrich recently described Chicago as "Murder Capital of the World". The problem isn't just guns in lower-income neighborhoods, but also gangs and drugs. VP Biden, please come to Chicago and see what's happening - sometimes in places not very far from the Obama family's home. People are dying every day and it's got to stop.

[RICHARD]

I guess we do need tighter gun control laws.

A woman with a gun could be dangerous?

[Randi]

I guess we do need tighter gun control laws.

A woman with a gun could be dangerous?

Just as dangerous as a man with a gun, but in the end, let's hope that intelligence win and the gun laws are changed! What a peaceful world we could live in.

[RICHARD]

Just as dangerous as a man with a gun, but in the end, let's hope that intelligence win and the gun laws are changed! What a peaceful world we could live in.

I am for tighter gun control laws - background checks and tighter rules concerning ownership and the sales of any weapons.

The problems arise when you have people who

Don't want their health/mental records looked at.
Do not want to be bothered to go to a gun safety class.
Do not want to register their weapons - for fear that the gov't. will come for them.
People who have an irrational fear about weapons and the people who own them.

Not all people who own guns want

Assault weapons
Machine guns
Large capacity magazines

The people that are visible in the media and the government DO NOT speak for the people who enjoy owning and
using guns for sport or hunting.

One of the funniest 'talking points' in the media is the portrayal of gun owners being "Gun Nuts" and wanting to have machine guns, hand grenades and living in bunkers with a year's worth of food.

It's a sensational look at the whole gun issue.

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Here in America we have a saying that goes soemthing like this.......

We have the freedom of speech, but that does not give is the right to scream "FIRE" in a crowed theater.

It would cause a panic and people will get hurt.

The people screaming 'FIRE' are the same people that are going on and on about the evils of gun ownership.
Most of them would not own a firearm, hold a firearm or go to learn the proper use of and shooting one.

It's just like me commenting on birthing a baby.

I can watch it, but I can't comment on it because it's not me on the table.

[Lady's Human]

Just as dangerous as a man with a gun, but in the end, let's hope that intelligence win and the gun laws are changed! What a peaceful world we could live in.

Changing the firearms laws in the United States to end gun violence it putting a band-aid on arterial bleeding.

Legal firearms owners aren't the problem.

Criminals who break the laws are the problem. Felons cannot legally own guns.

With that being the case, combined with the fact that 90+% (FBI stat, want the precise figure, look it up, it's readily available) of those who commit crimes with firearms were already convicted criminals BEFORE they ever got their hands on a firearm (read.....they were already legally unable to purchase a firearm), it clearly shows the problem isn't firearms. It's societal.

Legalize marijuana and decriminalize certain other drugs and the funding for the gangs dries up.

Provide realistic education for children that enables them to get employment on graduating high school and gang membership isn't so "cool".

Make parents be parents, and take children away from those who are categorically unable to care for them.(yes, that may mean recreating orphanages. Regulated, they would be a damned sight better than what many children have as parents)

Open mental health records to the NICS system.

All of this would have an effect on firearms issues.

None of this would affect already lawful owners.

[blue]

Silence from the the ES echo chamber, typical.

[pomtzu]

Silence from the the ES echo chamber, typical.

Why don't you just drop it???? Oh - I know why - you just can't stand peace.

[blue]

Why don't you just drop it???? Oh - I know why - you just can't stand peace.

Why so angry?

[pomtzu]

Why so angry?

I don't see any anger in that statement - other than the little "mad man".

I just find it extremely annoying when one has to the stir the pot to keep a confrontation going. Taunting people into a response is childish - like you tried in another thread where a totally innocent comment was made about "snow", and you had to make a totally uncalled for and inappropriate comment about/to the person who posted it.

[Randi]

Pomtzu, his signature says it all!

[blue]

I don't see any anger in that statement - other than the little "mad man".

I just find it extremely annoying when one has to the stir the pot to keep a confrontation going. Taunting people into a response is childish - like you tried in another thread where a totally innocent comment was made about "snow", and you had to make a totally uncalled for and inappropriate comment about/to the person who posted it.

Its funny you dont find it annoying when ES or Liz does the same thing on a far more regular basis, double standard maybe?

I kinda like that I have my own post stalker now with you.

So, why so angry?

[pomtzu]

Its funny you dont find it annoying when ES or Liz does the same thing on a far more regular basis, double standard maybe?

I kinda like that I have my own post stalker now with you.

So, why so angry?

Me a stalker??? - that's really funny. All you need to do is look in the mirror to see who is the stalker here - a classic case of the pot calling the kettle black. Don't flatter yourself by thinking that I am following you.

I don't necessarily agree or disagree with Liz or ES, but I most definitely disagree with you and your rude and crude tactics. I suppose that your comment about "snow" wasn't rude and crude ??? - but there you go again - the pot calling the kettle black. Obviously that shoe fit you very well and you are very familiar with snow in all of it's forms.

And I still see no anger in anything I've posted. Try disgust on for size.

And I'm curious, blue, so maybe you can answer this for me. This is a pet forum - right??? Well then why is it that you never (except on an extremely rare occasion), post anything about pets - be it yours or anyone else's??? You come here only to be rude and crude - abrupt and abrasive - as you choose to call it. Why don't you take your nastiness to a forum that would appreciate your m.o. - I've heard that there are plenty of them out there and I'm certain that you would be more than welcome to join many of them.

Nope - still no anger on my part.

Have a super happy day!!!