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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    This is just someone who really really loves his guns trying to put the "skeer" in you while he sneers at you.

    I fear there is no hope. We, as a nation, will just allow the insanity to go on. Too, too many people are more in love with guns than they are with their neighbor.
    This has got to me one of the MOST ridiculous things I have ever read. No one I know of who is against gun control is "more in love with gun then they are their neighbor" and I am sure that applies to very very little gun owners.. Let's stop making rash generalizations about gun owners simply because you fear the object.

    As long as you keep trying to harp on "Gun Control", this will happen, until you start looking at the bigger picture and the REAL issue here, the person behind the gun, and not the inanimate object that has no control over itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    Heavy duty stuff? Really?

    Please, that's not even serious target shooter levels of stuff.

    Nowhere near avid collector stuff.

    Media, media, media.......

    You're living proof of how easy it is to sensationalize and "put the skeer" in people.
    Quote Originally Posted by catlady1945 View Post
    I REALLY hope these are facetious comments, otherwise there is just no hope.
    He is right, those are very mild firearms. No where near serious or heavy duty stuff. My Glock .40 and two semi auto AKs arent in the heavy duty league.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    I don't want to live next door or even down the street from someone who has guns.
    I own 3 firearms, 3 of your neighbors at least own 1 firearm. You should actually sleep better knowing that they do. The average Alaskan owns 7 times the firearms I do. I know a number of people who have walk in gun safes. Rember that if you ever visit Alaska again, that and we dont regulate concealed carry, any legal firearm owner can carry without restriction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonny View Post
    If the guns were owned by the mom then you wonder how mentally stable she was? Did she drive her son to do this horrific crime? You just don't know what goes on behind closed doors.
    I heard on the news that she had the guns because she was a gun collector and shooting enthusiast, but also because she feared changes in the economy. But why did she need an assault rifle? That just does not make sense to me. I also heard that the children who were killed were 6 and 7 years old. How tragic.

    There were also 10 shootings in Chicago overnight. We have issues with gun rights in our own back yard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phesina View Post
    A kindergarten teacher in an idyllic small New England town.. Instead, the family member shot her.
    Scratch the surface of that small, idyllic New England town and you'll find the same puss and corruption as anywhere else, and in some cases worse.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by Alysser View Post
    This has got to me one of the MOST ridiculous things I have ever read. No one I know of who is against gun control is "more in love with gun then they are their neighbor" and I am sure that applies to very very little gun owners.. Let's stop making rash generalizations about gun owners simply because you fear the object.

    As long as you keep trying to harp on "Gun Control", this will happen, until you start looking at the bigger picture and the REAL issue here, the person behind the gun, and not the inanimate object that has no control over itself.
    Wha..wha...what??? Please speak English???

  6. Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    In addition,

    I don't "love" guns or any other inanimate object.

    I love my family, both fuzzbutts and humans, and God.

    I see firearms as useful tools and a hobby, and this discussion as further evidence of the erosion of the rights of a free society.
    And I see those "inanimate objects" as instruments of death. Tools..yeah...hobby...O K... erosion of a free society...as it was defined...in 1791..or whatever....

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Alysser View Post
    This has got to me one of the MOST ridiculous things I have ever read. No one I know of who is against gun control is "more in love with gun then they are their neighbor" and I am sure that applies to very very little gun owners.. Let's stop making rash generalizations about gun owners simply because you fear the object.

    As long as you keep trying to harp on "Gun Control", this will happen, until you start looking at the bigger picture and the REAL issue here, the person behind the gun, and not the inanimate object that has no control over itself.
    No rational discussion... just insult those who think diffferently than you do..right???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    No rational discussion... just insult those who think diffferently than you do..right???
    I don't think Alysser was insulting anyone.

    It was merely a statement of opinion, and further from insulting anyone than your constantly derisive comments about those who disagree with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    No rational discussion... just insult those who think diffferently than you do..right???
    I don't understand where I insulted you in the least.

    Making generalizations that people love an inanimate object over PEOPLE isn't insulting?? Like, come on really??
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    I wonder how many of the victims (the children) parents have guns in their houses and whether they want to keep them or not. I would imagine that their views might change, but who knows. It also seems to me that most of the people in favor of guns are the God loving people and the Republicans in the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    Scratch the surface of that small, idyllic New England town and you'll find the same puss and corruption as anywhere else, and in some cases worse.
    You know this for a fact, do you? I live in a small village - think I better clean my assault rifle. The gun lovers rhetoric is putting the skeer in me.

    Just FYI, I'm in the military & know a bit about the subject of weaponry. I would never keep any in my home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catlady1945 View Post
    You know this for a fact, do you? I live in a small village - think I better clean my assault rifle. The gun lovers rhetoric is putting the skeer in me.

    Just FYI, I'm in the military & know a bit about the subject of weaponry. I would never keep any in my home.

    Yes, I know that for a fact. I grew up in a small New England town. Just as much crime and scandal as anywhere else, just looked prettier in photos.

    I'm retired from the military. Qualified expert on damned near everything in the US small arms inventory up to a ma deuce, and spent plenty of time as a weapons range safety NCO, Observer Controller, and a slew of other training positions. Your point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    Yes, I know that for a fact. I grew up in a small New England town. Just as much crime and scandal as anywhere else, just looked prettier in photos.

    I'm retired from the military. Qualified expert on damned near everything in the US small arms inventory up to a ma deuce, and spent plenty of time as a weapons range safety NCO, Observer Controller, and a slew of other training positions. Your point?
    My point (and I do have one) is that amateurs with guns are scary and dangerous.

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    Incompetent professionals with weapons are more so.

    Back to the point, the problem isn't the weapon, it's the person. If you're not competent to the point of being comfortable around weapons, perhaps you need more training, especially if you're in the military. The last thing I want in a unit is someone who's uncomfortable around the tools of the trade.
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    Households with young people need to have the guns in lock down!

    I don't know why parents let their guns be available to kids! I have friends who hunt and their hunting rifles/guns are LOCKED at all times. They unlock the case when they take them and their older children, hunting.

    I would never own a gun. It is my choice. I think folks should have a choice.

    Why this latest killer's Mom had such assault weapons in her "collection" makes no sense to me. It came back to bite her in the butt, if you will. I wonder if she could have lived with herself, had her son not killed her first.

    Responsible gun owners need to be just that. Responsible. Mentally ill people should not have guns/knives etc. Maybe we should lock down the mentally ill?

    I think every town, has a collection of people ready to POP. I know my town does. The one I can think of in my town, is mentally unstable. It is just a matter of time until something awful happens. Just last week, this person took a drug over-dose then set his Mom's house on fire, in three places in the house. He survived, taken to the hospital and the house was damaged lots. What do you think his next step will be? His Mom is the sweetest person in the world. He has been through and is in counselling. I don't know if he is medicated. He is a time bomb. I hope they keep him in a mental hospital for a long time. Sad, but true. He is mentally ill. His DAD is mentally ill and has been for years. But he has rights....

    Shall I go out and buy a gun to protect myself?

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