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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post

    While he was adjusting the .40-caliber weapon it discharged, shooting him in the penis at around 11 a.m. - and his day was officially ruined.

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    Talk about an understatement. LOL
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  2. What does a "responsible firearms owner" do when your music is too loud?

    Shoot you of course!


    Florida man pleads not guilty to shooting teen to death over loud music


    Jacksonville Sheriff's Office


    Michael Dunn is accused of the shooting death of Jordan Davis.

    By Elizabeth Chuck, NBC News

    A Florida gun collector has pleaded not guilty to a murder charge alleging that he opened fire on a car full of unarmed teenagers, killing one, in an altercation that police say stemmed from loud music.

    Michael David Dunn, 45, acted “as any responsible firearms owner would have,” his lawyer said of the Friday evening incident at a gas station outside a convenience store in Jacksonville, Fla.

    Dunn and his girlfriend were in Jacksonville for his son's wedding when they pulled up in their car next to the teens. Police allege that while the girlfriend was in the store, Dunn told Jordan Russell Davis, 17, and his three friends to turn down their music.

    "It was loud," Jacksonville homicide Lt. Rob Schoonover said of the teens' music. "They admitted that. That's not a reason for someone to open fire."

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    After an exchange of words, Dunn began shooting with a handgun, Schoonover said.

    "Nobody else in that vehicle was struck; it was just our victim [Davis], which was lucky because the vehicle was shot eight or nine times," Schoonover said.

    Davis was in the back seat and was struck twice, reported The Orlando Sentinel.

    Dunn and his girlfriend drove off and spent the night at their hotel, according to Schoonover, but witnesses took down his license plate number. Police arrested him Saturday morning at his home in Satellite Beach, Fla., on one charge of murder and three charges of attempted murder.

    "His side of the story is he felt threatened and that is the reason he took action," Schoonover said.

    On Monday, Dunn -- a gun collector who shot at local gun ranges, according to authorities -- pleaded not guilty in Brevard County court, with his attorney describing his actions as self-defense.

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    How anyone could think that was the "responsible" thing to do is beyond me. Yes, loud music is annoying and potential damaging to one's hearing, but it is no life-threatening, and need not be met with lethal force. No doubt, if he didn't have a gun, he would have resorted to some other means of violence, and who know where that might have ended.
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    Self-defense? He could have driven away!
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    That guy should have his licence revoked & be required to get rid of all firearms. If this goes to trial & the man convicted of murder or manslaughter,
    wouldn't he be ineligble to own a gun? He clearly shows he is not responsible enough to own or carry a gun.

    The guy in this story (below) deserves much more punishment that he'll ever get around here. It just makes me sick to think how much this
    animal suffered before he was put down by Officers the next day. Damn shame.

    http://www.indystar.com/article/2012...t|IndyStar.com
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    There have been two separate incidents of young teens being shot in Chicago over the past couple of days. One was a girl who was at a slumber party. She was shot several times and died at the hospital. They're saying it might have been gang-related and a case of mistaken identity. The girl was an honor student attending a charter school, and she had no known gang affiliations. Neither did the girl who was hosting the sleepover. The other was a boy who was shot on the street and was also thought to be gang-related. Both of these stories were in the newspapers and on the TV news. It is just sad. There is no easy answer to the problem of gangs and guns in Chicago. The situation doesn't improve because the gangs have a lot of power. Very sad and not likely to end any time soon. The mayor and chief of police have both said they want to do all they can to stop the violence but it needs to be approached from a lot of directions- education, jobs, housing, poverty, support for parents and families, and on and on. Very tough problem.
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  7. "Just an unfortunate accident..."

    A 7-year-old boy was fatally shot by his father outside a gun shop in western Pennsylvania, according to a Pennsylvania State Police report.

    Joseph Loughrey, the father, had gone in to Twig’s Reloading Den in East Lackawannock Township some time before 11 a.m. to try to sell a 9 mm Taurus handgun and a scope rifle, according to the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. Store managers weren't interested.

    Loughrey, 44, and his son, Craig Loughrey, returned to the truck, where Loughrey secured his son in a booster seat on the passenger side. He then placed the long gun in the bed of the truck.

    As he got into the truck, he reached to place the handgun into a glove box storage unit, police told the Tribune-Review. That's when it fired.

    Authorities were called at 10:53 a.m. local time and found the boy lying next to the truck after a failed attempt at resuscitation. They stayed on scene until after 1 p.m., dispatchers said.

    "All evidence at this point would suggest that this incident is accidental," the Pennsylvania State Police report stated.

    According to the Tribune-Review, Loughrey didn't realize that a round remained in the gun's chamber.

    “This happens all too often where people think the gun was empty,” State Police Lt. Eric Hermick.

    Twig’s Reloading Den is an outdoor supply store about 70 miles from Pittsburgh.

    Imy Howard, owner of Howard & Son Meat Packing store next door, told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette that her son heard a shot this morning. She said that Twig’s Reloading Den hosted target shooting in the back parking lot last week but not this week.

    A Twig’s employee told the Post-Gazette that the incident was “just an unfortunate accident.”

  8. Just another unfortunate accident...

    In a tragic accident, Michael Bayless, a father from Indiana has died after his 3-year-old son shot him with a handgun.

    33-year-old Michael Bayless was watching television when the toddler got hold of a .45 caliber weapon and fired. Bayless was pronounced dead on the scene.

    “We think that this is purely a tragic accident that happened,” an officer explained.

    Police are investigating how the toddler had access to the weapon.

  9. Indeed. Nothing says "Merry Christmas!" or "Happy Holidays!" if you prefer, quite like a shopping mall shooting!

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    An appeals court ruled that the Illinois ban on carrying a concealed weapon in public is unconstitutional. We'll see what happens now. There is so much gun violence in Chicago but I don't know how the two are related, if at all. Do individual buildings in other states (I'm thinking here of schools, churches and museums) have the individual ability to make themselves "no guns allowed in this building"? That is, no concealed weapons in this particular public place.
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  11. And the Holiday Festivities Continue!

    A 5-year-old Philadelphia girl shot herself while playing with a gun Tuesday night, according to police.

    The girl was home in the Kensington neighborhood with her two siblings and her father when the gun went off -- hitting her in the big toe, police said.

    The girl's father rushed her to St. Christopher's Hospital with what police called minor injuries.

    It's unclear how the girl got a hold of her father's gun and if her siblings were also playing with it.

    The investigation would continue into Wednesday. Police said the girl's father owns the gun because he works in private security.
    Yes Cassiesmom - some states have laws about where you cannot take guns. But of course the NRA fights them tooth and nail. There was one nut who fought the prohibition on carrying in an airport.

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    Posted: 12/10/2012
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    INDIANAPOLIS -

    A man shot and killed his mother during a disagreement about taking out the trash, police said.

    Officers were called to a home in the 6000 block of Nolte Street just after 4 p.m. Monday.

    They found Paula Day, 54, suffering from multiple gunshot wounds. She was pronounced dead at the scene.

    "We think it was a dispute about trash, whether taking it out or getting it from the location, between the mother and the son, the son then shot the mother multiple times, fatally wounding her," said Indianapolis police spokesman Officer Kendale Adams.

    Day's son, Eric Bowman, 36, then drove into Morgan County, where he led authorities on a short chase before he was shot in the leg by the Brooklyn town marshal, authorities said.

    Bowman was taken to Wishard Memorial Hospital in Indianapolis with non-life-threatening injuries.

    Police said Bowman does not have a previous criminal record.

    Neighbors were shocked by the violence.

    "I feel so bad for her (Day's mother). She's an older lady, has been very nice and has been a good neighbor since we've lived here," said neighbor Peggy Murphy.


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    Someone has to do something about those Syrians.

  14. Wonder where the "bad guys" get their guns?

    MISSION VIEJO – Detectives are investigating a home burglary that resulted in 17 firearms being stolen from a Mission Viejo residence.

    Investigators believe that sometime between 9:15 a.m. and 12:20 p.m. Wednesday the suspects forced their way into a home in the 24000 block of Delphi Street, said Jim Amormino, an Orange County Sheriff's Department spokesman.

    The burglar or burglars apparently broke in through a back window and ransacked the home, stealing more than $200,000 worth of jewelry, cash and firearms.

    The firearms, which were in a large gun safe that was pried open, included what Amormino described as "two AR-15 assault rifles and 15 handguns." Authorities described them as "restored" firearms, most of which are gold-plated.

    "Our concern, obviously, is that these guns are on the street," Amormino said.

    The residents of the home didn't believe that they had been specifically targeted, Amormino said. Authorities did not have a description of the burglary or burglars.
    What home is complete without 17 firearms?

    Score for the bad guys!

  15. Peace on Earth and firearms loaded....

    NEWTOWN, Conn. — At least one person, believed to be the gunman, is dead and another wounded in a shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., according to a local ABC affiliate.

    Police report that the school is now cleared of shooters, but they are still treating it as an active shooter situation and all schools in the district remain locked down.

    Police are reporting a number of injured parties, the nature of which are not yet clear, The Hartford Courant reported. There are unconfirmed reports of two shooters, one dead, one still at large, according to the paper.

    One child was carried from the school by a police officer, according to The Newtown Bee, apparently seriously wounded.

    The school superintendent's office says the district has locked down schools as a preventive measure to ensure the safety of students and staff. The superintendent's secretary, Kathy June, says reports of a shooting are not confirmed.

    State police spokesman Lt. Paul Vance says they have a number of personnel on the scene to assist.

    The Courant reported that police said a shooter was in the main office of the school shortly after 9:40 a.m.

    Groups of students — some crying, some holding hands — were being escorted away from the school by their teachers, the Courant reported.

    A staging area has been set up for students and their parents near the school.

    According to the local ABC affiliate, June released the following statement: "Due to reports of a shooting as yet unconfirmed, the district is taking preventive measures by putting all schools in lockdown until we ensure the safety of all students and staff. All public and private schools in the town are in a lockdown situation."

    The district is made up of four elementary schools, two middle schools and one high school.

    Newtown is in northern Fairfield County, about 45 miles southwest of Hartford and 80 miles northeast of New York City.

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