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    6 year old male cat defecating AND urinating outside of litterbox

    Hi,

    I have a cat who is roughly around 6 years old. He's an american short hair named Mr. Darcy, and he's normally rather skittish in disposition (I think he was abused before I adopted him), but in the last month, he's decided to stop using his litterbox.

    The first time, he defecated on the mat right in front of my front door (and right in front of my mother--he actually made eye contact with her while he did it). We washed the mat, and watched him carefully. Soon afterwards, he did it again. After several BMs being left in the general vicinity of that mat, he started urinating (not marking; he left puddles on the floor, not the wall) in that same area. He's gone on the rug as well as around it. I blocked off the area, putting boxes and large things in the corners, taking the mat out of the room, and buying a motion detector which beeps at him and lets out a puff of air if he goes over there. He was scared by this device twice when he was about to poop over there, and so he stopped using that area. Note: The device didn't scare him while going.

    If I put him in the litter pan, he will use it, and then beg me for treats (because the second time he BMed on the rug, I put him in the litter pan, and once he used it I gave him a lot of treats and praised him heavily. Now he's spoiled ).

    However, after about a week of using the litterpan, he's started urinating and defecating on the rug and floor in the upstairs bathroom (which is rather random considering it's pretty far from the front door). My sister suggested a UTI, but he hasn't had any blood in the urine, frequent bathroom breaks, or straining. I did notice one incident in which he yowled while urinating, but that was several days ago in the backyard (I had let him out to burn some energy, though he is an indoor cat), and I think he was simply showing off. I have two other female cats who were nearby as he did it. He didn't yowl again after that, and there was no straining while he urinated then or in the next few days.

    I took him for a vet visit before he started going in the bathroom, and he wasn't running a fever. He didn't have any abnormal symptoms, actually. The doctor did discover a heart murmur, but said it wasn't related, and I'll soon have him screened for that. The vet suggested anxiety and recommended "Feliway", a pheromone releasing device which sends a message to your cat similar to the one he or she will leave for themselves when they rub their mouths/face on an object. What they're doing is leaving pheromones to tell them that area is safe, and Feliway does the same thing, but it releases them into the air around the area they've been marking.

    I guess it may be possible there's been some kind of trauma that has scared him out of using the litterpan, but if that's true, then I think he wouldn't want to use it when I put him back into the pan.

    My best guess is anxiety. By the way, I haven't noticed any abnormal amounts of stress--in fact, he's been rather sweeter lately than usual. He hasn't run when I've approached him, which is an improvement (although he only does run about 25% of the time).

    I have no idea how to solve this problem. The Feliway package recommends use for 90 days for best results, but I'm hoping I can fix the problem before then.

    I'm going on vacation for a few days soon, and I don't think I can leave him here without locking him downstairs...

    Any suggestions?? I would very much appreciate some help.
    Thanks very much!

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    I've had that happen with Bad @$$ Buddy. He was SO confused about where he belonged, he started peeing on my kitchen floor.

    Feliway is what my vet gave me to spray in the air. He gave me the spray rather than the diffuser. I am never without it!!!

    Do you have other cats? One of them could be sabbotaging the other while in the box and that's why he's doing it. Did your vet test for crystals? Just because there's no blood in the urine does not necessarily rule out a UTI.

    Rule of thumb is one litterbox per cat per household. If you have more than one cat and only one box, that could very well be the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moosmom View Post
    I've had that happen with Bad @$$ Buddy. He was SO confused about where he belonged, he started peeing on my kitchen floor.

    Feliway is what my vet gave me to spray in the air. He gave me the spray rather than the diffuser. I am never without it!!!

    Do you have other cats? One of them could be sabbotaging the other while in the box and that's why he's doing it. Did your vet test for crystals? Just because there's no blood in the urine does not necessarily rule out a UTI.

    Rule of thumb is one litterbox per cat per household. If you have more than one cat and only one box, that could very well be the problem.
    Thanks for the quick reply! I do have 2 other cats. However, I have 4 litter pans out--1 for each cat, plus an extra. I haven't changed the litter type, box location, or food type, so it's not an environmental change.

    My vet did not check for crystals--in fact, he didn't do any actual tests for an UTI because of the lack of fever. On the way to the vet, poor Mr. Darcy peed himself in terror, so the doctor couldn't feel his bladder. I don't know if feeling his bladder would be a test for crystals? To be honest, I just don't know enough about bladder infections in felines.

    Hmm, interesting proposition. One of our cats--the youngest and smallest of them all--did start harassing him while he was using the pan the other day. At first I thought it was just because he was marking outside of the pan and Phoebe (the kitten) was being possessive (she is female, though, and I don't know if she would react the same way as a male would). She jumped into the litterbox he was using and urinated alongside of him, which agitated him enough to make him get into the other pan.

    I'd never seen her do anything like that before, and I haven't seen her be aggressive like that since then...however, the litter pans are out of my site (in the garage, downstairs), so I may have missed it.

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    I'd definitely have your vet check for crystals. And the kitten bothering him while he's in the box could very well be the problem.

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    MooShoo,you left me too soon.I wasn't ready.Know that you were my soulmate and have left me broken hearted.I loved you like no other. 1999 - 2010See you again "ONE FINE DAY"
    Maya Linn, my heart is broken. The day your beautiful blue eyes went blind was the worst day of my life.I only wish I could've done something.I'll miss your "premium" purr and our little "conversations". 1997-2013 See you again "ONE FINE DAY"

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