Last edited by blue; 12-10-2008 at 10:29 PM.
I could just make a statement and not back it up as others repeately do here time after time, I chose to try to post the sources for what I find and let you and others come to their own conclusions.
It did - with the last Illinois Governor. He is serving 6.5 years in a Federal Prison.It's just the "R" side getting a chance to get their digs in. Imagine if this happened to a Republican. LOL
Why would you be skeptical if he currently has a clear record?Obama has a clear record. Until he proves otherwise, I will be skeptical of anything he tries to do.
Ah, but your previous comment was that your friends show you your future - not who you are at this moment in time.Like it or not, who you choose to associate with and keep as friends says a GREAT deal about who you are.
I guess in your eyes that would be fair play.
I dont give two Ds if the letter behind the gov of IL is D or R.
I want to see the facts, it seems you and others dont care.
I can edit too.
You got anything better?
Further edit: You really have nothing better then "Yawn" to show your point? Seriously? Do you have any facts to back up anything you post? Im assuming you make it up as you go along from this point foreward as you have rarely backed up anything you post with a source or fact.
Because he is trying to talk like the guy he clearly has NOT been in the past.Why would you be skeptical if he currently has a clear record?
<sigh>Ah, but your previous comment was that your friends show you your future - not who you are at this moment in time.
Context matters Grace. You KNOW what I am talking about. Please don't go ES on me.
(Pulls pin - I regret even starting this thread.... I should have known better.)
"Unlike most of you, I am not a nut."
- Homer Simpson
"If the enemy opens the door, you must race in."
- Sun Tzu - Art of War
Puck, just remember......when the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is NOT your friend.
The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.
Oh, I was under the impression that it was a poster from Alaska who was the nit picker in these partsContext matters Grace. You KNOW what I am talking about. Please don't go ES on me.
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Men, it has been well said, think in herds. It will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."
ó Charles Mackay, Scottish journalist, circa 1841
Technically, President-elect Obama is in political "no man's land". He's not a Senator anymore, and he is not the President, either. As is proper, IMO, he is focusing on what he needs in place to take his seat as President in January. What his "camp" and he say may or may not jibe, based on the date at hand at any given time. The motivation of the different stories might be lies, might be carelessness, might be ignorance. As someone once said (I forget the origin, but a character on Bablyon 5 used this quote):"Truth is a three-edged sword; yours, mine, and the real truth."
I've been finally defrosted by cassiesmom!
"Not my circus, not my monkeys!"-Polish proverb
This Governor is a real piece of work. His transgressions, and investigations by the FBI, go back years - long before Obama decided to run for President. I read that his father in law has barely spoken to him since 2005. Do you suppose it was Richard Mell, the f-i-l, who dropped a dime on him?
In 2005, Blagojevich's father-in-law, Chicago Alderman Richard Mell, accused the governor's adviser and fundraiser, Christopher Kelly, of trading state jobs and appointments for campaign contributions. That accusation, which Mell later recanted, launched several investigations.
_ Blagojevich's then-chief of staff personally approved people hired for such routine jobs as secretary, auto mechanic and film office intern, even though those jobs are supposed to be sheltered from political influence.
_ Blagojevich's own inspector general found that the governor's patronage chief and a state agency had engaged in a "concerted effort" to subvert hiring laws. At another agency, people were hired before it was determined what jobs they would fill.
_ The Blagojevich administration gave a $522,000 contract to a campaign contributor to clean, among other things, Transportation Department road-salt storage barns. The agency's finance director at the time was the brother-in-law of the company's owner.
_ In 2006, U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald asked the state attorney general to back off her investigation and let his office pursue "very serious allegations of endemic hiring fraud" in the Blagojevich administration.
_ Later that year, it was disclosed that Blagojevich's former campaign treasurer gave a $1,500 check to one of the governor's daughters a month before his wife started a $45,000 state job.
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