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  1. Wow! I see some bad karma on its way for a few folks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    Wow! I see some bad karma on its way for a few folks!
    Clear and fact based, as always ES. "Saying what you mean and meaning what you say." Yep, thats you.
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    Walter E Williams on the POTUS criteria for his SC nominee.

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    A MINORITY VIEW

    BY WALTER WILLIAMS

    RELEASE: WEDNESDAY, MAY 20, 2009



    Empathy Versus Law



    President Obama's articulated criteria for his nominee to the U.S. Supreme Court is: "We need somebody who's got the heart to recognize -- the empathy to recognize what it's like to be a young teenage mom, the empathy to understand what it's like to be poor or African-American or gay or disabled or old. And that's the criteria by which I'm going to be selecting my judges."

    What is the role of a U.S. Supreme Court justice? A reasonable start for an answer is the recognition that our Constitution represents the rules of the game. A Supreme Court justice has one job and one job only namely; he is a referee. There is nothing complicated about this. A referee's job, whether he is a football referee or a Supreme Court justice, is to know the rules of the game and make sure that they are evenly applied without bias. Do we want referees to allow empathy to influence their decisions? Let's look at it using this year's Super Bowl as an example.

    The Pittsburgh Steelers have won six Super Bowl titles, seven AFC championships and hosted 10 conference games. No other AFC or NFC team can match this record. By contrast, the Arizona Cardinals' last championship victory was in 1947 when they were based in Chicago. In anyone's book, this is a gross disparity. Should the referees have the empathy to understand what it's like to be a perennial loser and what would you think of a referee whose decisions were guided by his empathy? Suppose a referee, in the name of compensatory justice, stringently applied pass interference or roughing the passer violations against the Steelers and less stringently against the Cardinals. Or, would you support a referee who refused to make offensive pass interference calls because he thought it was a silly rule? You'd probably remind him that the league makes the rules, not referees.

    I'm betting that most people would agree that football justice requires that referees apply the rules blindly and independent of the records or any other characteristic of the two teams. Moreover, I believe that most people would agree that referees should evenly apply the rules of the games even if they personally disagreed with some of the rules.

    The relationship between Supreme Court justices and the U.S. Constitution should be identical to that of referees and football rules. The status of a person appearing before the court should have absolutely nothing to do with the rendering of decisions. That's why Lady Justice, often appearing on court buildings, is shown wearing a blindfold. It is to indicate that justice should be meted out impartially, regardless of identity, power or weakness. Also, as Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes said, "Men should know the rules by which the game is played. Doubt as to the value of some of those rules is no sufficient reason why they should not be followed by the courts." The legislative branch makes the rules, not judges.

    Interventionists often make their case for bending the rules based on the unfairness of outcomes such as differences in income, education and wealth. After all, how can the game of life possibly be fair when some people's yearly income totals in the hundreds of thousands, even millions of dollars, while many others scarcely earn twenty or thirty thousand dollars? Some people find that argument persuasive but it's nonsense. Income distribution is an outcome and fairness cannot be determined by outcomes. It's the same with football. The Steelers winning six Super Bowl titles and Arizona winning none is an outcome and cannot be used to determine football fairness. Fairness in either case must be settled by process questions such as: Were the rules unbiased and evenly applied? If so, any outcome is just and actions based on empathy would make it unjust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    Walter E Williams on the POTUS criteria for his SC nominee.


    Should the referees have the empathy to understand what it's like to be a perennial loser and what would you think of a referee whose decisions were guided by his empathy? Suppose a referee, in the name of compensatory justice, stringently applied pass interference or roughing the passer violations against the Steelers and less stringently against the Cardinals. Or, would you support a referee who refused to make offensive pass interference calls because he thought it was a silly rule? You'd probably remind him that the league makes the rules, not referees.

    Nice,

    Why not bring up the Immaculate Reception and let Franco Harris laugh all over again.

    That wound will never heal.

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    I really believe that the recession is getting better.

    Yeah, The news comes from some guy living in a government subsidised housing project on Pennsylvania Avenue.

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    MY president took his wife on a romantic date



    and all I got was the bill.


    Government subsidised dating?
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    Nancy was out in China with the people whom she accused of not respecting Human Rights.

    Nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post
    MY president took his wife on a romantic date



    and all I got was the bill.


    Government subsidised dating?
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    Nancy was out in China with the people whom she accused of not respecting Human Rights.

    Nice.
    Im shocked... Wait, wut?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    Im shocked... Wait, wut?
    NP was in China kissing rear today. THIS after complaining about the Human Rights record of the government right before the Olympics.

    What an incredible waste of a perfectly good seat in Congress. As a Cah Lee fuh Nee An I apologize to the rest of the country for her actions.

    What a moron.

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    Ive been wondering if GM is the next Volkswagen? As in Government Motor's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Jefferson
    Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.

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    Two stories that made me think about how stupid the media is.

    The abortion doctor and two soilders in uniform were shot in the last week-
    They were called Domestic Terrorists-

    So, why aren't they called murderers? And why weren't the stories touted as "man made disasters"?

    I really laugh when I get the 'codewords' the Politically Correct Media has assigned to idiots and the way they behave, backwards.

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    LOL, three planes, two choppers and a whole lot of overtime for a date night.


    Shoot, when I was dating, it was a movie, something to eat and maybe an ice cream..And I paid for the date myself.

    A real man would have pulled out his wallet and flashed some dead presidents.


    It's the least he could do for the sagging economy.

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    I am asking because I truly don't know...is the date thing or using a helicopter or whatever normal for the President? I am not trying to start anything but hasn't this always been done?
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    Quote Originally Posted by caseysmom View Post
    I am asking because I truly don't know...is the date thing or using a helicopter or whatever normal for the President? I am not trying to start anything but hasn't this always been done?
    Ill bet you a dollar if Shrub had done it would have been worldwide front page news. On the other hand Shub never told us we need watch our spending while the .gov keeps pouring out $$$.

    The only problem I have with the date thing is that .gov paid for the press to tag along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caseysmom View Post
    I am asking because I truly don't know...is the date thing or using a helicopter or whatever normal for the President? I am not trying to start anything but hasn't this always been done?

    Yes,
    But BO said that after the election, he would take the wife on a "date night".

    Now, I don't mind spending a penny on taking care of the POTUS for work related trips, but with GM, Pontiac, banks and the Titanic going under, like why doesn't he get a sitter and rent some movies or porn on the cable/satellite?

    There was a shot of about 100 NYC cops standing around waiting for the prez to show up.

    Other people said that it was a slap in the face to the rest of the country where, most of us are very aware of what we spend on a date/shopping/perks. He spends money on very trivial things.

    He just showed that maybe he doesn't really care about saving my and your money.

    Of course, he could have cancelled the Statue of Liberty photo fiasco and gone to see it while he was in town?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post
    Yes,
    But BO said that after the election, he would take the wife on a "date night".

    Now, I don't mind spending a penny on taking care of the POTUS for work related trips, but with GM, Pontiac, banks and the Titanic going under, like why doesn't he get a sitter and rent some movies or porn on the cable/satellite?

    There was a shot of about 100 NYC cops standing around waiting for the prez to show up.

    Other people said that it was a slap in the face to the rest of the country where, most of us are very aware of what we spend on a date/shopping/perks. He spends money on very trivial things.

    He just showed that maybe he doesn't really care about saving my and your money.

    Of course, he could have cancelled the Statue of Liberty photo fiasco and gone to see it while he was in town?
    I tend to agree with you there. Our lovely gov keeps cutting our salaries...yes I am a state employee...(don't do it, its too easy). Honestly a lot of people I work with work our butts off and he has taken ten percent already and now he is after another 5 percent, in our line of work private industry already makes about double what we do. They paid a consultant 1.3 mill to do what I could have done in a few months if they let me...and our guv was suppose to make it all better

    I have been cutting back, but I feel even worse for a lot of other folks and to be honest any extravagance does make me feel guilty. I would like to be Obama act accordingly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caseysmom View Post
    I tend to agree with you there. Our lovely gov keeps cutting our salaries...yes I am a state employee...(don't do it, its too easy). Honestly a lot of people I work with work our butts off and he has taken ten percent already and now he is after another 5 percent,
    ANd you hang on every report in the media when they discuss the state's budget and any cutbacks in the workforce.

    I feel your pain.

    See, I like the politicians who give you a vague promise of the things to come.
    I tend to be very suspicious of the ones that give you a detailed list of what the want to do. Far different from what they can do!

    We will make it out of this mess.

    We'll have to tighten our belts a bit.

    I just don't like it when politicians pass on the belt tightening and go have their entire wardrobes taken in, on our dime.

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