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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    Richard, Richard, tsk tsk, you must expand your reading library. Try this
    link to better distinguish truth from rumors. It won't hurt a bit, I promise.

    http://www.factcheck.org/politics/sliming_pelosi.html
    I didn't read too much into it, it you read the "MSNBC" disclaimer I wrote at the bottom.

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    Theres a problem here.

    Liz's link is from 01/14/09.

    The MSNBC link is from 03/10/09 and the related Judicial Watch story is from 03/13/09.

    Its possible that Factcheck.org hasnt seen the documents cited by Judicial Watch. ETA: Keep in mind the JW story is part of a weekly update ending on a friday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    Theres a problem here.

    Liz's link is from 01/14/09.

    The MSNBC link is from 03/10/09 and the related Judicial Watch story is from 03/13/09.

    Its possible that Factcheck.org hasnt seen the documents cited by Judicial Watch. ETA: Keep in mind the JW story is part of a weekly update ending on a friday.
    Judicial Watch got it's bloomers in a knot when it finally thought they
    had "the goods" on the Speaker, Palosi.

    Sorry , but they were wrong in their conclusions.

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/200...dog-group.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    Judicial Watch got it's bloomers in a knot when it finally thought they
    had "the goods" on the Speaker, Palosi.


    How could anyone get the 'good' on someone so 'bad', dumb and incompetent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post
    How could anyone get the 'good' on someone so 'bad', dumb and incompetent?

    Huh????
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    Huh????
    I wrote that while I was napping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post
    I wrote that while I was napping.


    Richard, stand back from the keyboard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    Judicial Watch got it's bloomers in a knot when it finally thought they
    had "the goods" on the Speaker, Palosi.

    Sorry , but they were wrong in their conclusions.

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/200...dog-group.html
    Its funny that ABC didnt follow up with the main JW story.

    In response to a series of requests for military aircraft, one Defense Department official wrote, "Any chance of politely querying [Pelosi's team] if they really intend to do all of these or are they just picking every weekend?...[T]here's no need to block every weekend 'just in case'..." The email also notes that Pelosi's office had, "a history of canceling many of their past requests."

    One DOD official complained about the "hidden costs" associated with the speaker's last minute changes and cancellations. "We have...folks prepping the jets and crews driving in (not a short drive for some), cooking meals and preflighting the jets etc."

    The documents include a discussion of House Ethics rules and Defense Department policies as they apply to the speaker's requests for staff, spouses and extended family to accompany her on military aircraft. In May 2008, for example, Pelosi requested that her husband join her on a Congressional Delegation (CODEL) into Iraq. The DOD explained to Pelosi that the agency has a written policy prohibiting spouses from joining CODEL's into combat zones.

    Documents obtained from the U.S. Army include correspondence from Speaker Pelosi's office requesting an Army escort and three military planes to transport Pelosi and other members of Congress to Cleveland, Ohio, for the funeral services of the late Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones. Pelosi noted in her letter of August 22, 2008, that such a request, labeled "Operation Tribute" was an "exception to standard policy."

    The documents also detail correspondence from intermediaries for Speaker Pelosi issuing demands for certain aircraft and expressing outrage when requested military planes were not available. "It is my understanding there are no G5s available for the House during the Memorial Day recess. This is totally unacceptable...The speaker will want to know where the planes are..." wrote Kay King, Director of the House Office of Interparliamentary Affairs. In a separate email, when told a certain type of aircraft would not be available, King writes, "This is not good news, and we will have some very disappointed folks, as well as a very upset [s]peaker."

    During another email exchange DOD staff advised Kay King that one Pelosi military aircraft request could not be met because of "crew rest requirements" and offered to help secure commercial travel. Kay King responded: "We appreciate the efforts to help the codel [sic] fly commercially but you know the problem that creates with spouses. If we can find another way to assist with military assets, we would like to do that."
    Source with links to the emails, DOD documents, and letters.
    Last edited by blue; 03-16-2009 at 09:34 PM. Reason: Forgot to link the source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    Richard, stand back from the keyboard.
    WTF,
    You never have typed with your forehead?

    LOL, I was reading about the Iditarod race in the paper and one of the mushers fell asleep on the sled and when he woke up he was lost.....


    That's me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post
    WTF,
    You never have typed with your forehead?

    No, but I have had one of my cats post for me if I'm too busy elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    No, but I have had one of my cats post for me if I'm too busy elsewhere.

    Now THAT explains a lot.






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    LIz, I'll wear my motorcycle helmet when I type from now on.


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    I saw something on the tube that made me think and get kinda melancholy.

    BO was to make a stop here in the Southland. People were camping out for tickets and the news crews stopped by to interview people.

    As I flipped thru the channels the interviews were in two parts, some people wanted to see him in person and the other set were there to see if they culd ask the pres about getting some of the stimulus money for themselves.

    Sheesh,
    This is going to be a prob for this administration. 'giving' away money is the not the answer! Most of the people who lived within their means are doing 'o.k.' considering the econ climate. The people who over extended their financial limits are the ones that are begging to be helped. This is a scary
    precedent because no one is inclined to clean up their mess-they want someone else to do it for them.

    That really gets me angry that we have lost the desire and drive to 'do it ourselves'.

    The people who wanted a government that would butt out of our lives is getting the opposite of their wishes!

  13. Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post
    As I flipped thru the channels the interviews were in two parts, some people wanted to see him in person and the other set were there to see if they culd ask the pres about getting some of the stimulus money for themselves.

    Sheesh,
    This is going to be a prob for this administration. 'giving' away money is the not the answer! Most of the people who lived within their means are doing 'o.k.' considering the econ climate. The people who over extended their financial limits are the ones that are begging to be helped. This is a scary
    precedent because no one is inclined to clean up their mess-they want someone else to do it for them.

    That really gets me angry that we have lost the desire and drive to 'do it ourselves'.

    The people who wanted a government that would butt out of our lives is getting the opposite of their wishes!

    Oh come on! Some people ...who make their own mess asking for a handout....NEVER happened before?

    And this new action is the result of the Bush and the Obama administrations giving money to save corporations.

    PLEASE!!! An opinion about so-called "bailouts" - fine - dislike Obama and his ideas - fine....but to say...

    we have lost the desire and drive to 'do it ourselves'.
    ...based on the overwrought interviews with some people. That make a "good" story on the news.

    ....hyperbole...drama...whining...

    I don't know about you...but I am still doing "it" myself and so is just about everyone I know.

    So a couple of people went to the Town Hall Meeting and asked for money. I realize the media (as you so often like to point out) makes a big deal out of it.

    But...I really don't think this is indicative of a general collapse in the American spirit.

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    I hope someone tells Barney Frank to STFU.....

    I used to like him, now he is just a political buffoon, Dance, Monkey, Dance.

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    I heard that AIG put some cash into BO's campaign.....They got what they paid for!

    The country is on dire financial stratights and he's picking out the bracket for the NCAA basketball tournament.

    lololol.

  15. Oh my gosh! At the OC Town Hall Meeting some people wanted to ask Obama...boxer or briefs?

    Does this mean the country has lost its way? Do we no longer care about our own underwear? And how can it be blamed on Obama??

    Oh wait!...it can be blame on Barbara Boxer for having a last name that is also used for men's underwear.

    Or Barney Franks for never answewring the questions as to what HE wears!

    Yup...thanks to Obama, Franks and Boxer we have lost our desire and drive to mind our own underwear!


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